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Why should L.E.O.'s be held liable when someone flees and wrecks??


Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent. .

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Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent. .

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Strobe, I have (on VHS) a copy of dash-cam footage one of our LEO's took several years ago. A chase began here in our county (northern Mich) when a kid stole a truck. He drove it south on one of our highways, through four counties, and ended up crashing the truck in Cadillac, MI (an hour south!) One state police car was damaged (minor) in the chase. Our village car did a great job on this one - he rode the yellow line all the way down, so on-coming traffic could see his lights and move over. I won't upload the full hour chase (smiles) but I'll see if I can get some of the highlights in there. Won't be today - I'll have to convert it somehow. He did a great job warning traffic in both directions that something was going on. It happened late at night - pretty dark out. Surprisingly, there were no injuries or civilians involved / affected by the chase!

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Thats good to hear no-one got injured in the chase, We need more good l.e.o.'s like that one around. cant wait to see the vid. Even if it is only in clips (smiles ),Thanks


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No, the person that fled from the police should be held on criminally liable.

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Lizbit, please upload your videos!!

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I personally have initiated and ended 13 pursuits. Knock on wood, but i am 13-0 with no injuries, or crashes. minor body damage to my patrol car due to off road driving. For some reason, most of my pursuits have ended off road in corn fields, wheat fields, etc. You'd be suprised what the crown vic can drive through when you want it to. I agree that the criminal should be held accountable both criminally and financially when they make the stupid choice of running from the Police. At the same time, we as trained proffesionals should also use good judgment when deciding to pursue the bad guy and what we are chasing him/her for.

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Very good point, Glad to hear your 13-0 instead of 0-13. Sure wish we had the corn fields though.


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They hold us accountable because the bad guys have no money or assets. Of course, people seem to think we can psychically control the subject so they harm no one either. No one wants us to chase, until they are the victims of a crime, then they bitch because we did not run the bad guy down until he/she was caught. Peace my Brothers and Sisters

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I completely forgot to upload the video.... BigGun, PM me your mailing address... I'll mail you the DVD and you can pull it off since I am not so savvy about that kind of thing!!

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Here in Chicago it's the police department and at times the P.O. who is liable. I've been in a few vehicle pursuits. A few years ago we could chase but today it's another story. If we initiate a vehicle pursuit the Sgt most monitor the chase. If the chase gets out of control, he or she goes over the air and terminates it.

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CPD18578 - Same here, a few years ago we could also give chase but these days as soon as you engage in a pursuit you have to call it in and immediately the pursuit is monitored by the Duty Senior Officer. During the pursuit you have to call the speed, the traffic conditions, the weather conditions and the distance from the offending vehicle and like you, once in the opinion of the Duty Senior Officer the pursuit becomes too dangerous, a warning siren is sounded over the Radio and the Duty Senior Officer directs the pursuit to be abandoned.

Also within our operating procedures it states that if another police officer being a passenger in the pursuit vehicle decides that the pursuit is too dangerous, he too can direct that the driver abandon the chase.

There are some horrific stories of innocent people coming to grief as a result of police pursuits and the pursuing police officers then having to justify their actions before the courts. It is my belief that the days of police pursuits as we know them are over and will be replaced by advances in technology.

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I don't think LEO's should be liable if suspect flees on most circumstances. Sometimes you should chase them until the wheels fall off and sometimes officers just get too excited too quick.........5 o'clock traffic, school zone coming up, speeds up to 100 and the LEO's probable cause is failed to signal turn.............absolutely not.......that officer should terminate it and not wait for supervisor to do it... I know, I know...."What if they just killed someone?" Any officer that has been in pursuits knows that most of the time the idiot says.......I was scared, I don't have a drivers license, thought I had a traffic warrant.......sometimes it's just not worth it.....

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There are many arm-chair quarterbacks out there that let their emotions and biases drive their thinking. Some are politicians. Like it was stated, cops don't ask to chase someone. They do it because someone (criminal) done something to warrant it. There are pursuit policies in many if not all states that govern how and when a pursuit is even initiated...how it is handled during it....and how it ends...(on the officers side that is) because the offender could wreck or even continue after an officer calls it off.

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Latest Court decision was when a person crashed and was seriously hurt he was the one that had the opportunity to stop and it was the officer's responsibility to stop him from hurting anyone else. Cann't remember the state, think it was in Georgia and it was just recently in the news.

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It was Georgia. the ruling was the the officer is not liable for injuries to the offender when the officer is within proper police procedures.

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One thing I have never understood about pursuit chases that also include a police chopper, why don't the cruisers back off so the suspect/suspects can hopefully think they've lost them? He/She may then not drive as reckless if they see no sirens behind them & may actually slow down some, meanwhile the chopper is still maintaning visual on them & giving intel on their direction of travel.

Once he/she stops & gets out, the air serveillance can inform the ground units of their pos & move in for the arrest.

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Most of the time the suspects know there is a chopper. If they walk into a store/house and change their appearance, ( changing clothes, mixing with others, ect...) you cant positively identify them. No more arrest....


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I totally agree with Gone! I love a chase just as much as anyone. Nothing is more exciting, Wanna catch the bad guy. In my rookie days, I too have said "what if they killed someone or what if they robbed someone". But we also have to worry about other idiot drivers that don't pay attention to their surroundings or have their radio too loud or talking on the phone. We as responsible officers shouldn't need a supervisor to tell us when to back off. We should have enough common sense to know when enough is enough (ie school zones, residential areas, busy downtown areas, etc.).

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I agree with daniel34. We are the professionals. We don't chase people for Contempt of Cop. We chase them when the benefit of chasing them outweighs the risk to the public. We have a higher responsibility.

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I worked with an officer who wrecked a car and broke his neck running hot to a call. It ended his career. This has always stuck in my mind. I would rather lose the bad guy then wreck and kill an innocent person because I got wrapped up in the moment. If we don't use common sense we will lose the ability to pursue.