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Hello, I wanted to know what is the best way of self defense (other than martial arts) for a civilian. I live in NYC and if you're not a LEO getting a permit for a gun is almost impossible, knives seem to be quiet an issue too, so what would you guys recommend? I recently moved to Brooklyn, and would like to have something more than bare hands, especially for my gf, since sometimes we both come back home late from work.

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Brass knucks are cool.

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Best self defense is to be aware of your surroundings and street smart. You can't carry a blade either and unless you are damn good, and you aren't, it will probably get you hurt or dead. Believe it or not a whistle is pretty good.

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Alexander said:

Brass knucks are cool.

If I wanted to break someone's skull in, I wouldn't be asking this question here, and it isn't exactly legal......

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Where I'm from they just take them away if they catch you with them. And if anyone assualts me, it's no mercy.

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Sure sounds furious, still, any officers have any advice? Or is there no hope? Come on guys I still have a whole year to go before the academy.... GIVE ME SOMETHING!!!!!

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One of the smartest men I know was my Tae Kwon Do master Ko. He always said the best way to avoid a punch was not to be there when it was thrown. What he meant was most situations can be avoided if you stay away from the places and people who cause them. As Robo said, be aware of your surroundings. That doesn't mean just your immediate surroundings but basically the entire city. If you know an area is known for drugs or violence, don't go there. Don't be there when the punch is thrown, see the meaning. Brass knucks are good, if they don't get em from you, a silver soldered roll of dimes is too. Or a mini mag flash light which is the same exact size as a roll of dime. When you and your gf are walking home, take your keys, slip the ring over your thumb, let the keys slip through and between your fingers and make a fist, if attacked, go for the eyes. Don't punch, scrape. Have your gf carry a small travel size can of hairspray. Works like mace, not as well, but also, not illegal or grey area as mace or pepper spray would be in your area. You scrape the eyes, she sprays and then run like hell. Stay Safe


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Oh yeah, the whistle thing is as old as we are, and still works. These idiots don't want to draw attention to themselves. They're cowards first, tough guys only in their own minds. Make sure its loud, and peircing. Go to a boating supply and ask for a boating emergency whisle. They are a bit bulky, but they are loud and like a siren. Another trick is to keep a camera flash unit with you. Flash it in their eyes from 3 feet and they will be stopped dead in their tracks long enough for you to again, run like hell. Stay Safe Oh yeah, and always report it to the LEOs. You may get away but the next guy may not. Help the next guy out by making the LEOs know they have a hot spot. Stay Safe


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Thank you very much, very useful info, will let my gf read it as well. Thanks a lot guys.

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One last thing, as Robo said, don't carry a knife. Unless you are Steven Seigal, It will do you no good. If you were that good, you wouldn't have started this post. Plus, some slick attorney, if you did come out on top, could show intent, then you would be in the hot seat just for defending yourself and your gf. Be aware, careful and smart. Your best defense is your intellegence. Stay Safe.


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Your welcome, and welcome to the site. Stay Safe


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Thank you very much once again, I have lots of knives, but I prefer to collect them rather than use them, and once again thank you, now at least I know what to keep my aim at.

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YEAH what he said, hard to believe those things work, but they do, after all the self defense schools we take in law enforcement you tend to forget the basics.

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Hey Odin, one basic is sleep, why do you and I seam to miss the mark on that one all the time?????????


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sleep is for wimps.

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I stay awake so others can sleep in peace.

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I just got off, Hospital Post, one of those inmates been down 20 years so they know their rights type. Told him I'd been in the system for 30 and I probably wrote those rights. Always gets me wound up, ya know. My ex stopped a drunk Marine with a spray bottle of cologne. Seems he was ok with alchohol in his system but couldn't get the hang of it in his eyes. Then, one swift kick to the nether region and it was over. She wasn't even trained allthough, being a small dept. she acted as a matron when we had a female transport. I was a proud papa that day. Scared, but Proud. Stay Safe


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I have a mugger alarm. It's about 2"x2" and can be hung off a belt. When you pull the pin out it has a piercing alarm and flashes a bright light off and on.


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i let my wife have one of my flash-bangs, it puts off a bright light and loud noise.

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I agree with Robo about the whistle. Surprisingly enough a loud whistle can cause a good amount of criminals to give up and look for "easier" prey. Another good defensive device is a very bright keychain LED light (easier to carry than a camera flash and often times brighter). Shine it in their eyes, blow your whistle, and book it the other way.


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My daughter, wife, and grandaughter carry those, forgot about them. Work great, about 80 dcb or so. Can't shut em up without putting the pin back in. Also, a lot of communities offer civilian workshops in self defense, most are run by LEOs or cerified instructors and you even get to take out your frustrations on some poor schmuck in a red suit and Jason mask. Look into those. Check your local cop shop or the local YWCA. Stay Safe


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flash-bangs? Well thats nice, could you send me a couple of those? And a MP5 SD, please, if you don't mind. Thanks in advance, hehe.

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Just remember, the idea is to disorient, delay, or disable an assailant. Don't stand your ground like some hollywood macho man. You are problably sadly at the disadvantage from the git go, don't give them a second shot. Once you can run, run. Get the hell out of their world and back to yours. Even if you can't see them, you will never face one attacker. They run in packs. You don't want to have to deal with 2 or 3 more idiots. The key is to remove yourself from harms way, not stick around for round two. If you do that you and your gf will probably become just another statistic. Now your would be assailant is not only an idiot, but an embarrased in front of his friends idiot and pissed. A no win situation if you stick around. Stay Safe


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If you have no weapons then a good kick in the groin or an eye gouge will work. If all else fails, scream like a bitch and run like hell.

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if you're attacked the groin is a good one, but kick in their knee cap like you're trying to break a wooden stick leaned up against a wall. See how long they can stand after that!!! Guaranteed to put em down.

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daniel34 said:

If you have no weapons then a good kick in the groin or an eye gouge will work. If all else fails, scream like a bitch and run like hell.

daniel34-ROFLMAO

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you know bare hands can get you far.. i study martial arts. .and we train for what the people are gonna use in the street.. and it's not all about throwing kicks and punches.. it's about being aware of your surroundings.. excpect someone to attack you, i mean dont' be paranoid..but the best defensive move i know.. is to move away, then turn and maybe a kick to the ribs or something like that.. but dont' beat them down.. just private messag me.. i can give you all sorts of tips!


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Here's one for you. Move out of New York City. Why would you want to live anywhere they don't trust the cops without an 8 pound trigger?

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ODIN said:

i let my wife have one of my flash-bangs, it puts off a bright light and loud noise.

Cool...

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Loop22 said:

if you're attacked the groin is a good one, but kick in their knee cap like you're trying to break a wooden stick leaned up against a wall. See how long they can stand after that!!! Guaranteed to put em down.

yeap, then run and scream for help.

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