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I love my job I look forward to every day waking up and putting on the uniform. Until recent it has come to my attention that I work to much. I am being looked at by what you would call our ast. chief because I work to hard is how it was explained. My life long dream was to become a police officer and I busted my a55 to get here. Well from my outlook I swore an oath of office as a LEO the day they pinned my badge on my chest over my heart. Well I have been informed that we are not to work I had a DWI the other night she almost t-boned my patrol unit while I was searching for 2 males attempting to steal a tractor off of school property. They ran as I noticed them and I lost them in the woods. Well I was informed that I should not have been wasteing time looking for them and I would not have came across the DWI driver. Then I got talked to about running traffic and pulling over the DWI vehicle. It was brought to my attention as a ISD police officer we are not supposed to make traffic stops and assist other agencies when they need help. Instead I am supposed to drive campus to campus and have on blinders. This maybe the wrong tread to post this in but I am lost as what to do. I feel like I am ethicly bound to serve my community but if I do I get in trouble from the command staff. I feel I am a good cop but since I have only been here a short time I dont want to hurt my employment record and look bad if I move on some of the older hands please help a rookie out I need advice here.


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Well Rookie the best advice that I can give you is do as you are told until you learn the ropes of the department. I don't understand why your employer would not want you to get a drunk driver off the streets. I'm still juggling that one around. If you are in a marked unit and observe erratic behavior especially a DUI then you have a duty to act otherwise you will be possibly sitting in criminal court for dereliction of duty and civil court possibly being sued. Especially if some one was hurt/killed and were sure that you knew that the drivers behavior could cause these actions. Best I can tell you is follow your departmental policy and you should be covered if anything bad happens because of their not wanting you to act. If I were you I would be looking at another department that will allow you to perform your duties as a law enforcement officer. Good Luck to you!

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Do what you are told until you are off probation, write EVERTHING down (but don't keep the notebook in your cruiser or work locker), and then when you are off of probation beat feet like a bat out of hell to an agency that does want a good, proactive cop.

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Apply for a different agency. Until then, do as you are told (unless you are told to do something illegal or puts lives at risk). You don't want to leave with a negative evaluation, if you do you may never get another LE job. Stick with it.

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You're with a campus PD right? Unfortunately their going to have different priorities that a municipal or state agency. Granted, you are a full fledged police officer with all the powers as any other, but, you work for a department that is basically privately run. You're new and you want to do all you can, that's understandable, we were all there once. After time on the job and subjected to all the negativity you are going to be from both the public, and your administration, you are going to get sinical. That's a trapping of this job. All I can say for this is follow the guidelines set by the administration. It sounds though you might be better off at a municipal department for the type of policing you want to do. Keep your head up mano and be safe.

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Tx_LawMan, we're hiring. Chief loves a traffic hound!


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You have received some good advice my friend. The sad part is that even though you have all the arrest powers of a regular police officer, you work for people who are not interested in anything but their business and that is the collage. Basically you are a security guard with arrest powers in their minds. Do what you are told and keep records and make your application to an agency that wants you to actually do police work for the community and not a private business. Good luck and you will make a much better cop than a campus police.

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Tx, Robocop just called you a security guard. Them is fighting words. Just kidding guys.

Robocop is right.


"It would be better for one to have a stone tied around their neck and thrown into the sea, than to cause a child to stumble."

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hey TX were are hiring in stratford

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Robocop33 said:

You have received some good advice my friend. The sad part is that even though you have all the arrest powers of a regular police officer, you work for people who are not interested in anything but their business and that is the collage. Basically you are a security guard with arrest powers in their minds. Do what you are told and keep records and make your application to an agency that wants you to actually do police work for the community and not a private business. Good luck and you will make a much better cop than a campus police.

Hey Robo you hit the nail about 99.9% I work for the public school ISD and the bad thing is I patrol 345 square miles of my county. I have been writing all down he has not come to me but has gone to my co workers who in return has called me and informed me what he is doing. One of the dispatchers also informed me that he went and had her pull all of my DAR's to see what I am doing. I am about to place a application with a Harris County pct and I will for sure be looking around else where. All of you guys have givin me great advice thank you I feel you all are right I need to go to a municipal agency or a county agency I just have a tough time putting on my CISD issued blinders.


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Kid, listen up. Watch your back. There is a lot of complacincy, laziness and jealousy in police work. If you're out there turnin and burnin your going piiss some slug cops off because you're making them look lazy, which they are. You don't want the cops and the brass pissed at you. Do what your told, get your probation and move on to a real PD that encourages you to jam up scum bags.

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Tx, listen up buddy. I work for the friggin United States Border Patrol. I have arrest authority throughout the ENTIRE United States of America. I can pull over any car acting suspiciously, I can have a conversation with anyone, and I can look for illegal aliens where ever they may be according to the law as it is written the U.S. Code. Policy allows me to do little of what I just mentioned. I'm "encouraged" not to pull over many cars. My bosses don't want me to stop DUI's unless PD is too far away and there is an immediate threat. My bosses DON'T want me to arrest illegal aliens I find in MY OWN TOWN. Only those I find near the border. I did what I was told as a trainee. Not sometimes, all the time. When I had 2 years in, I still did what I was told most of the time. If I had a journeyman agent with me, then we pulled what we could without breaking policy. Now that I've got my time in, I walk up to the line and poke it with my ASP, sometimes I kick dirt on it for fun. If they chew me out I nod and apologize and do my job. I've never broken policy, so they can't touch me. When they get sick of me I'll take that promotion to another station. The BP isn't quite the same as PD in the way that works. Every agency has its policies and management quirks. Mine don't like us to work too hard, so we piss them off a lot. In the end when an agent gets sick of it, we transfer agencies or stations. So I suggest you keep your nose down, do what the brass says, and transfer once you've got time in. There's a lot of good places to go where they like hard workers.


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You don't want to leave a negative work history. It will follow. I have two rookies on my shift now. One thing that I have seen is they are jumping in too far and heavy. I'm trying to slow one down now. He is wide ass open. He will be good if we can keep him alive. Now I dont know why they would want you to avoid a DUI or suspects involved in a theft. My advise would be avoid confrontation with supervision. Just don't get in over your head until you learn to read behaviorisms. Take it slow and see if you get better feed back.

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LCarvin said:

Tx_LawMan, we're hiring. Chief loves a traffic hound!

How tough is it to find somewhere to live around there I love that area up there.


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Hey Brother,
I worked for a University PD and it can be very trying. It was a beautiful campus surrounded by a crack infested neighborhood. I had a very proactive and supportive Sgt. He took the heat for job we did. We took care of business in the neighborhood which reflected on the campus. At first we had the support of the chief and dep chief.After time we became poular on campus. We also became more knowledgable in L.E. This is when we became targets of the depts.admin.Who had nebver been police officers anywhere else. At that point I found another agency. My advise is simple. Get through probation and move on. Keep your mouth shut for now for your own good because if you speak out you will be labled a sh*t stirrer. I know this first hand. Start putting in apps. everywhere.
Good luck and stay safe

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I agree 100% with rcs11564, write down everthing! As a Chief for a small agency I am scrutenized by CIty Council, Mayor and of course the public. With that said every agency is different. Dont do anything to jeopordize your career. Once off your probationary period, if you still are not satisfied, you may want to look for a pro active policing agency instead of a re active one. When i was a newbee I was gung ho as hell, and I got knocked down a level or two by my superiors. Best advice I could give, keep your chin up, be true to yourself and your partner, and learn the ropes first before you go off and save the world. Good Luck

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Well put, lawdawg.

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Some good advice here. While you want to respond to a violation of some sort that seems to be the right thing, that isn't always what your department's leadership is looking for. My 2 cents would be to keep in your department's good graces and begin to look for a department that delivers the type of services that you would like to provide. Once found, take your good work record, experiences, and desire to the new department. You will be a lot happier in your job if the management is looking for the type of services that you enjoy providing. Best of luck.

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I am now paying the price for wanting to be a proactive officer. I got my new duty assignment the command staff is placing me in dispatch until further notice.


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Tx that is some BS. i know the feeling here on fort carson they care more about "takeing care of the soldier" than enforceing the law. if you pull to many people over, or get to many DUI's, or just do your job then you are the bad guy.

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Campus police is some of the most politcal police work anywhere except maybe with the federal government. I started as a campus cop and had the same problems you have. Enforcing the law is not popular on any campus. Follow procedure not matter what, its the first thing they will hang you on they give you a directive ask for it in writing to cover yourself or write it down with date and time. The stick you in the comm center fine, do your best, work hard dont let them get to you. Apply other places build a network with other local LEOs but show up to work on time and do what you have to do. If you get back to the road network with other cops see if they can help and make the pinch if need be. I worked with some great cops in my town and they understood the rules campus cops operate under they would help out. We are all part of the brotherhood and sisterhood hang in there

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everybody is right. Just follow orders for the time being. Wait till you've been there for at least 1 year, just so it show's that you were with an agency for a bit and have some experience then apply around. The county where we work is hiring right now. Bide you time then get the heck outa dodge. Sent ya a pm.


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get the hell out of there. if that is not what you signed up for then find something else ASAP. you seem like a good cop, they are just holding you back. meanwhile, be a soldier and suck it up, do what you are told and when opportunity come, dont hesitate. good luck!

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I agree with theEnforcer, Portland Police Bureau is looking for a good Officer like you! You would be an excellent Partner for Officer Brian Hubbard, a dedicated, God fearing 12 year Veteran. You and he would get along great! Trust me, I know my brother!

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Thank You everyone, I am in looking around anyone in Texas know of a good place looking for a hard working officer please give me a shout.


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I cant add to anything that has already been said, but I know what you are feeling. I worked for a University deparment as well. Its all politics. The motto of the administration is be re-active not pro-active, and I mean the university admin. They are to concerned with students leaving. My last straw was while chasing 3 unknown suspects who had broken into a power plant building. I was called by the morning supervisor and told that it was probably just students messing around and join the other 4 officers (my back up) who were already at the local breakfast joint. This happened 4 days after I tried to investigate an arson. I was told it was probable just an accident. Ok so I let the mattress soaked in gas under the window and the lighter along with the gas can in the bushes go. So you see I know what you are going through. That was 11 years ago, I can see not much has changed. Stick it out past probation and find a good department, it worked for me. Best of Luck.