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hello everybody i have been interested in law enforcement as far back as i can remember. i want to be a sheriff and eventually move up to detective,loss prevention manager, and maybe even F.B.I.
now i know in order to be accepted into the academy one must have a high school diploma,top shape, and clean record. i have all.
i am currently really contemplating on taking out a loan and attending a career college for criminal justice but it majors in corrections .and does not really cover much policing/sheriff.. i am hoping the degree will show the departments i am serious about a career in the sheriff's department, and also aquire me higher pay.
what im asking you all is do u think the associates degree in corrections will improve my chances of being accepted into the academy at age 21 ?? will it aquire me higher pay?? and can it eventually get me up to higher positions such as detective ??
thank you all very much and i respect and appreciate you all to the fullest.

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No. Hard work gets you places. Education does not equate intelligence. On the other hand, any time of certificate or degree can't hurt.

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Jack60 said:

No. Hard work gets you places. Education does not equate intelligence. On the other hand, any time of certificate or degree can't hurt.

YES THAT IS VERY TRUE BUT I LIVE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WHERE PEOPLE AGES 21-32 APPLY TO BE OFFICERS JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE ELIGIBLE AND MEET BASIC REQUIREMENTS. AND I VERY RARELY SEE ANY KIND OF COPS THAT ARE UNDER 25 THE ONLY ONE I MET OVER HERE IS 23 AND HE HAD A BACHELORS IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE.. SO DO U THINK A PERSON WITH JUST A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA CAN WORK THERE WAY UP ALL THE WAY TO DETECTIVE OR F.B.I ???
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the F.B.I is a whole different field then local law. you dont work your way up to F.B.I by becoming a local police officer, and you need at least a bachelors degree to even begin to think about becoming a federal employee.

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No again, fed work requires degree. Look into the business field of upper education if you are interested in federal employment. Set realistic, attainable goals and work toward them every day. Ever thought of relocating?

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The degree wouldn't hurt if you want to have a leg up on the competition. You will HAVE to have it to go FED. As far as local LE goes it's different from area to area. Most times it doesn't help you make much more pay in the begining. You'll make about the same as everybody else and your promotions will be based on you merit not your education level.


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ANYBODY ELSE WITH ANY KIND OF ADVICE OR RESPONSE ????

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Any kind of education can only help you but it will not get you more money or promotions those are achieved with time and hard work. good luck to you


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If I was in your shoes (and wanted to be a Fed), I would take computer classes and learn how to speak Arabic. I would start off in LE.


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I don't know hwat other types of answers you are looking for. Any degree related to the field will help to show you are serious and will give you a few extra points on any civil service exams. If you want to think about going FED you need at least a bachelors, or many years as an exceptional officer. As for higher pay, some departments I have looked into give a 50-100 Dollar bonus a month per degree. Good luck, and I am off to take a physical agility test to get in to the academy.

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Easie, I'm in an academy here in Southern California as we speak. I can tell you several things: first, not all departments give an educational incentive. Some do, some don't...it depends on the department that you'd be applying to down here. Second, just as many people have stated: FBI and the Sheriff's Department are completely different ball games. As a matter of fact, it's like comparing baseball to hockey. An AA definitely makes you look better to departments, especially being a young person; I'm 22 and as I stated I'm going through the academy right now, and I think that one of the main things that made me look good (for my age) was that I had a degree.

One other thing. DON'T CONSIDER a job in law enforcement for the pay. I guarantee if you go into the academy thinking, "Well gee golly, I sure am going to make a lot of money!" you're going to be sorely mistaken and not make it through. It's long hours...it's hard work...it's lots of physical pain...and at the end of the day with all of the costs of uniforms, weapons, gear, etc., you're not making hardly anything. You don't get into this profession for the cash, you get into it because you're called to it. Just my .02.

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No matter what your goals are any education is helpfull. If you have the desire to do it, get all the education you can. College degrees are the keys to oppurtunity!

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I strongly recommend for you to get any type of degree. I'm a Federal Officer and having a degree shows that you are dedicated to your profession, but note that your appearance, how you speak and how you carry your-self is a big factor as well. If your desire is to become a Federal Officer start applying as soon as you can, it normally takes some time for every thing to clear.

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THANKS TO ALL YOU VERY MUCH ESPECIALLY YOU RECRUIT I BEEN WANTING TO TALK TO SOMEBODY WHOS ACTUALLY YOUNG AND GETTING INTO THE ACADEMY. NOW I KNOW THE PAY IS NOT GREAT BUT ITS MY KIND OF JOB I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT AND MY FAVORITE SHOW IS STILL COPS. I ACTUALLY TOOK THE LA SHERIFF'S TEST THIS SATURDAY JUST TO SEE HOW I WOULD DO AND I GOT A 32... WHICH REALLY SUCKS BECAUSE U NEED A 33 TO PASS SO IM GONNA DO MY ASSOCIATES IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND BY THE TIME I GRADUATE IN 2 YEARS I WILL BE READY FOR THE ACADEMY.

BEST OF LUCK TO YOU RECRUIT AND EVERYBODY ELSE. I KNOW THE PAIN AND DIFFICULTY OF TRAINING. I WENT THROUG A 3 WEEK MINI BOOT CAMP FOR THE MARINES.
DOES ANY BODY HERE WORK IN LOSS PREVENTION OR AS A SERGEANT/ DETECTIVE?

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Umm...unless I am mistaken....loss prevention is security work in stores. Nothing wrong with that, but it isn't the same as a police officer. I notice Easie that a couple people answered you and gave you their experienced opinions. You didn't like them so you asked for others to weigh in. Buddy, if you want to be a cop, you better be prepared to listen to the veterans or you will not make it. Police work, while rewarding, is not "COPS" or "Worlds Scariest Police Videos"...being a cop may be what you have always wanted in life, but sometimes we don't always get what we want. Most agencies in my neck of the woods won't look at you without some type of higher education. Go to school, get a degree and learn about life a little. That is not meant to be a slam, but I don't think many people are ready to be a cop after they graduate high school. They need a little seasoning...

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Even a 2 year degree in criminal justice is a thought.Some guys around here have done that after high school and have now gotten hired in with municipal agencys.A good Reserve program is a good way to get sponsered to get in a reserve academy and get certified.

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A degree may be what distinguishes you from other good candidates when you are applying for your position. It can be real competitive out there.

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Most higher paying agencies require a degree or military service and the promise to get your degree within 4 years or 5 years prior police service. The answer is to get a degree in Criminal Justice. If you want to be a Fed with the FBI you better not only get your degree in CJ but a minimum of four yrs is required and it is much better to have 6 or 8 yrs and maybe a law degree as well. What you see on TV is police work but only a very small segment of it. What is shown is damn near scripted to make for exciting viewing and ratings, not for real life. Do a ride along or join a reserve agency and get a feel for real police work. It may or may not be what you want and we do not need to waste our valuable resources educating someone that does not fit in.

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Whatever you decide to boost your hiring potential, make sure it is constructive. Correctional "Education" will not help you for Patrol Duty, but if that's your focus then go for it. If you are interested in Criminal Justice, Forensics, Homeland Security, or any other specific portion of LE - there are plenty of accredited colleges which offer distance learning with focus in these fields.

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Something else to consider seriously is what about 5-10 years down the road something happens and you can't continue in law enforcement. If you have a CJ degree, are you going to be able to use it. A degree in administration or management may be a better option. Before you decide, sit and seriously think about all of the possibilities that may happen.

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I am currently enrolled in my final semester in 4 year criminal justice college program. I have interned twice for a total of 10 months...I have a minor in Sociology and another in Pre-Law. I have a 3.9 GPA, was Head Resident Adviser as a first semester sophomore, and am graduating a year and a half ahead of schedule. I am currently working in Assets Protection. I took the FBAT and scored a 97. I have done everything I can to set myself apart from the pack, but I do not hold my breath that I will be able to get in with any department for some time...just do the best you can and GET INVOLVED. Networking is huge. I have contacts in 3 different states...volunteer and see where it goes.

DCTracker: Criminal Justice degrees are very versatile depending on where you go. If you want to be Law Enforcement only...don't waste your time...but for DEC, DHS, FBI, Secret Service, Boarder Patrol, Corrections, even those going to law school - opportunities are endless. You just need to be sure to apply your skills to what your employer needs. Get in a program that is extensive. I might suggest Cazenovia College in NY. Check out their new CJ program. It is one of the few in the country like it. Prospective CJ majors - let me know if you have questions and I would be happy to talk to you!

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Plus...a lot of department offer a slightly higher salary just for having a college degree (in anything). And if CJ is what you love, go for it. Don't ever go to school and major in something you don't like because it has (supposedly) more opportunity. If you don't like your major, you will hate college and will NOT do well. I guarantee it.

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Also, just advise. Don't say that you want to be a LEO and then "move up to loss prevention" the jobs have nothing to do with one another. Most LEO's would say that going into loss prevention, even as a manager, would be a serious step down. Some of us have worked in loss prevention as a second job, or when we were between departments but in my case it was never considered a step up on the promotional ladder. Loss prevention is basically in-house store security and has very little to do with real LE work.


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COPS be COPS. Sheriffs be Sheriffs, Staties be Staies etc etc LNOWING what one wants to be helps LOADS. For example, I know of NO California Agency that has Loss Prevention. You'd probably want to get to know the bare basics about an agency BEFORE applying. City, State, County. Where they patrol, job duties, size of department and citizen demographics help.

IMHO, and as a California guy WITH A Doctorate, I can say with THAT experience, DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY on educational 'career colleges' UNLESS your local agency says it would help. Fer Example, Los Angeles County Sheriff doesn't WANT you to have previous academy training, if they had their way. I suspect MOST Departments which HAVE an academy, are the same. It's better to be trained THEIR WAY in the first place. Less to un-learn that way. And the career colleges are solely MONEY MAKING VENTURES, for the career Colleges. A local college with a Computer Course, Spanish class, Business mangement and similar skills are MUCH MORE HELPFUL in Civil Service careers than some college's idea of what LAW ENFORCEMENT guys do. You're more valuable and more apt to promote if you have a varied skill set.

Good Luck in whatever you do.

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once again thanks to everybody for putting in their 2 cents. i decided what i am going to do.. since my current job has many good tuition reimbursement programs i am going to go to school and get my associates in criminal justice.also while attending school i am going to enroll in an 8 week program that the local sheriffs department offers here that teaches all about the daily duties and tasks of an officer and includes ride alongs. i know i am very serious about my career choice and thats all that really matters to me, i want the agencies to know i am serious so that i have a better chance of being accepted into the academy at age 21.. like i said i am only 19. thank you all again you have all been very helpful and every one of you makes a good point. i plan to start as a sheriff and hopefully someday move up to detective or gang task force.

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Good luck!!! We wish you all the best!


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