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Hi, I am planning on starting school this august for the law enforcement program. However, I am concerned that due to a few things, I may be disqualified from ever becoming a police officer?



1st, as a juvenile, I had an issue with cannabis abuse and alcohol. I also had a "gang affiliation" which honestly was over exaggerated. I also had a few issues with theft as a juvenile but was never convicted. I have one criminal misdemeanor that I was convicted of and it was some kind of harassment via prank phone call as a juvenile. I did probation and work crew for that, I also did chemical dependency treatment as a juvenile as well and on my medical record I do have PTSD, Depression and anxiety but have been medication free for a few years now (5).



My driving record is off to a bad start. I have 1 permit violation, 1 driving on a revoked permit and 3 speeding tickets with a 4th one pending as well as a pending license suspension. I do have one minor accident as well, I back into my roommates car a year ago.



However, I have a honorable reputation among my teachers, peers, family and employers. Ever since I got involved in a church at age 18 I have really cleaned up my act. I have stopped using cannabis and alcohol, my mental health has been stabilized without medications and I have had no criminal convictions or contact with police as of being 18 (I am 22 years old now) besides traffic issues (speeding etc). I am a very honest man and very open too. I do not hide stuff and am accustomed to eating "humble pie"



There was one incident when I worked as a housekeeper and I was questioned by an officer about a missing electronic which I did not have anything to do with. the investigation concluded that I was innocent.



With all of this, is it still possible to get employed as a police officer in any department across the country? It has always been my dream and I am willing to take any course of action necessary to obtain this life goal.


bas I said above, I had criminal issues as a juvenile and did go on trial for a harassment prank phone call that I was convicted of. My history will indicate that I had an affiliation with a gang which I do not by any means have now, and back then, I did not really either but it is on my record. I have had some mental health issues but never been admitted long term (I did one time as a juvenile for 24 hours due to suicide ideation or something like that) I did go to chemical dependency treatment as a juvenile more than once.


My driving record is not so good with 4 speeding tickets (one pending) in two years, two within one month with a possible suspension of my license. One minor accident and two permit violations 4 years ago.

 


 


So to summarize: I have a poor driving record at the moment, I had criminal issues as a juvenile, I have had chemical dependency issues as a juvenile and I do have a few mental health issues as (Mainly depression, ptsd and anxiety) but with all of that out in the open, I do have a honorable reputation among friends, family, coworkers, employers etc. I have a good resume with working security/resident assistant for over one year at an apartment complex which does permit me to drive a company vehicle. I also work as a program assistant in a group home which consists of vulnerable adults which also permits me to drive a company vehicle. I am an honest and transparent person. I just wonder if my record will disqualify me?

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When you go to college pick a major other than criminal justice.  I would recommend math or any science.  Do this and you will have marketable skills outside of law enforcement.  Getting into LE with your background will be an uphill battle.  With the right degree you will have something to fall back on and if you do get into LE a marketable skill upon retirement.

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Thanks for the comment... Do you think it is possible for me to get hired with this background or is it not possible?

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 To be blunt, I wouldn't hire you. Too much risk from you where the candidate pool is more diverse with less issues.


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My good friends ajsdaddy and mmmmm offer good advice.Generally a minor juvenile record is of little concern,but yours seems to go on and on and on,both criminal and traffic.You may continue with your quest if you wish,but I would judge that the chances are somewhere between slim and none.

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I would not hire you. Try the military. My question is why do you want to enter law enforcement.

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Bump SE851. 

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 thanks again for all the input. The reason why i want to go into law enforcement is because i feel like it is a good fit for me and its something i would love to do. I have changed so much since my childhood days. I am a great problem solver, team player and have a high desire to protect and serve the community. Coming fro, my background, i have seen the destruction of crime and what it does to the community and it is my desire to fight against it with a passion.


I am just saddened that my mistakes and poor choices from my past may prevent me from living out this dream goal now. Only if there were a departmemt that would be willing to give me a chance to prove myself as an honorable and respectable character.

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 perhaps i should do the two year program and try to work a more high end security job or be a corrections officer if LE wont work out. I was worried that this would be the case and am grateful for everyones honesty here in this forum. It would be more heartbreaking to do the two year program just to find out i would never get hired due to my mistakes and poor choices early on in life.


Honestly, be blunt if you will, its not likely i would get hired into any department?

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There are so many people out there who do not have a substandard history that are equally qualified. I am glad you have changed, but hiring you would cause an agency to absorb the risk of your past. It's much easier to hire a person without as many risks.


Law enforcement is stressful and can cause people to find unhealthy ways of dealing with their stress. With your PTSD and substance/alcohol abuse issues, the stressors of the job would put you in danger of relapse. I would suggest college and finding another field you are interested in.

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Well to be honest, I haven't changed my decision. I am still going to do the two year LE program here in town. After which I will push to get employed as a peace officer, even if its in a poor department. There are so many departments across the country that I am sure I could possibly get employed. If you meet me in person, you would see that I am an honest and respectable person.

 


You know, I have no criminal history as an adult and I was only tried and convicted of 1 misdemeanor as a juvenile. The only issues I have had as an adult is some depression and anxiety stuff, as well as a iffy driving record. I have been able to maintain a very stressful job that works with local law enforcement often doing security at a homeless alcoholic facility. I am certified for two years in CPR training, CPI training and have also had NO issues with the company vehicles. I have been employed for over one year and have had to deal with a lot of body bags (5 people died due to alcohol related deaths) and my PTSD is still stable.


So again, my only issues were as a juvenile but nothing since being over 18 years old. I have a crisis intervention prevention certificate, cpr, verbal de-escalation training, first hand security training and have never been in trouble with using a company vehicle. I also passed all my background investigations for working in a group home with mentally challenged vulnerable adults.


With all of that said, I really do not see why I could not get employed as a peace officer after my two year degree. I am sure there is some department within the USA that would accept me especially when I am allowed to meet with the hiring board in person.


Am I wrong?

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This week I plan to meet with the instructor at the school to discuss these concerns further, as well as meeting with some of the local departments to inquire more. I will hide nothing and admit I made some foolish mistakes as a juvenile but I have completely changed and my adult record shows that... At the very least, I will probably take my two year degree and go into high end security if the LE does not work out. Either way, I am determined to work in this line of work.

 

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 A lot of the stuff you will learn in a CJ course is taught in the police academy.  You would do better to change your courses.  PD are looking for more than CJ degrees.  mmmm was right with his comment. 


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As UncleD said,   Try the military, I woudl guess as military police.  This will provide more separation from your juvenile past and pay for college as  well.  You might like that career path as well if you are accepted in the military.

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your history will be a hinderence for sure. but perhaps you have changed. goodluck

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Hi have changed a LOT and I am willing to go the extra mile to prove it.

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I'm guessing the professional LEOs here at PL would consider yours to be a fairly consistent record for flagrant recklessness and negligence, together with vice - ie illegal drug use.  You would be evaluated against hopefuls with spotless records.  Not enough years have past since your violations. 


Probably, it is time to take stock and redirect your future.


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Hi, I am planning on starting school this august for the law enforcement program. However, I am concerned that due to a few things, I may be disqualified from ever becoming a police officer?



1st, as a juvenile, I had an issue with cannabis abuse and alcohol. I also had a "gang affiliation" which honestly was over exaggerated. I also had a few issues with theft as a juvenile but was never convicted. I have one criminal misdemeanor that I was convicted of and it was some kind of harassment via prank phone call as a juvenile. I did probation and work crew for that, I also did chemical dependency treatment as a juvenile as well and on my medical record I do have PTSD, Depression and anxiety but have been medication free for a few years now (5).



My driving record is off to a bad start. I have 1 permit violation, 1 driving on a revoked permit and 3 speeding tickets with a 4th one pending as well as a pending license suspension. I do have one minor accident as well, I back into my roommates car a year ago.



However, I have a honorable reputation among my teachers, peers, family and employers. Ever since I got involved in a church at age 18 I have really cleaned up my act. I have stopped using cannabis and alcohol, my mental health has been stabilized without medications and I have had no criminal convictions or contact with police as of being 18 (I am 22 years old now) besides traffic issues (speeding etc). I am a very honest man and very open too. I do not hide stuff and am accustomed to eating "humble pie"



There was one incident when I worked as a housekeeper and I was questioned by an officer about a missing electronic which I did not have anything to do with. the investigation concluded that I was innocent.



With all of this, is it still possible to get employed as a police officer in any department across the country? It has always been my dream and I am willing to take any course of action necessary to obtain this life goal.


bas I said above, I had criminal issues as a juvenile and did go on trial for a harassment prank phone call that I was convicted of. My history will indicate that I had an affiliation with a gang which I do not by any means have now, and back then, I did not really either but it is on my record. I have had some mental health issues but never been admitted long term (I did one time as a juvenile for 24 hours due to suicide ideation or something like that) I did go to chemical dependency treatment as a juvenile more than once.


My driving record is not so good with 4 speeding tickets (one pending) in two years, two within one month with a possible suspension of my license. One minor accident and two permit violations 4 years ago.

 


 


So to summarize: I have a poor driving record at the moment, I had criminal issues as a juvenile, I have had chemical dependency issues as a juvenile and I do have a few mental health issues as (Mainly depression, ptsd and anxiety) but with all of that out in the open, I do have a honorable reputation among friends, family, coworkers, employers etc. I have a good resume with working security/resident assistant for over one year at an apartment complex which does permit me to drive a company vehicle. I also work as a program assistant in a group home which consists of vulnerable adults which also permits me to drive a company vehicle. I am an honest and transparent person. I just wonder if my record will disqualify me?


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I am not in a position to offer LE career advice, but I think it is worth reviewing what others have already said.


I think you already got the point across that you feel you've changed, but from what I understand priority is given to those who made the right choices to begin with. The most encouraging advice you got above was that if you're determined to go the route you've chosen you should have something to fall back on. I have a hunch nobody here is going to give you anything more than that--certainly not "Oh, all right--since you're all fired up, I'd hire/work with you."


 


 




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 hmmm, interesting response. Thank you for your honesty :) ... so i wonder, i have had a criminal free record for 6 years now and my only conviction was one harrasment charge at age sixteen and one under age drinking ticket i forgot about until now, which is also in my juvenile days... besides those, my medical record is the only thing that shows canabis use. Not that i didnt have contact with LE apart from those, i have but never tried or convicted.


 


Are you indicating that if i put enough distance (time) between me and my mistakes, i could have a chance? 


 


 

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Haha I think your right, I meet with people tomorrow to go through some of these concerns to get there opinion

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Doeberg: Glad to hear you responded that you had changed and were willing to go the extra mile to prove it. It's good you have this mindset/mentality because you just may have to... ( go a little farther, bend a little more and just be a fraction of a second Quicker )... to show you have what it takes. I am not a leo once again so I do not know but I would imagine so. I would imagine it is incredibly stressful for you to disclose your background once wanting to get hired as well. The only thing I can say is : Just try. There is no hurt in trying and you'll be proud you at least gave Yourself a chance......don't worry about if they Do. Just be you and see how far u can gooooo. Goodluck :)

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Your right, I know I have to go the extra mile and maybe then some. I am meeting with the LE department that does the two year college course tomorrow. I have already been accepted into the program but did not mention what I have mentioned here. Due to the responses I feel its best I discuss these matters in person with them and see what they say.


Also, I am planning on going to the actual PD and talking with the training officers to see what they say about my case. I heard that doing military service (as many suggested here) or auxiliary police will be beneficial as well as an advanced driving class due to my record. With all of these things out in the open, I hope to have a concrete idea if its even possible for me to ever join a PD.


If it is not, then I am still doing the two year course. I will just have to take the degree and go into the field of security work. So security work is what I will fall back on if the LE does not work out.


Tomorrow I will get further insight and answers