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can i become a police officer with a history of depression. i havent been on meds for over 3 years. i told the doc i felt suicidal at one point a few years ago. is this going to stop my chances of getting in?

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 There are many things that could prevent  you from becoming an officer and depending on the situation, it may or may not have an impact  on getting hired.  You must ask yourself what would happen if you got to that point in your life again? Police Officers deal with many stressors on the job and if you have a hard time dealing with them, it will have a negative impact on your mental health.   I'm not telling you can't get hired but they have limited pool to pick from and rightly so, peoples lives are in their hands. 

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Where ever you apply this should come out in the first interview. Personally, I think it is the kiss of death.

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I shall not respond with a yes or no.I will simply state that leos must have the thickest skin in the world."Example"-I worked a city of over half a million and was daily confronted with one or all of the following-


1-A two year old infant dead from a motor vehicle collision


2-Suicide where the victim took cyanide or blew himself/herself away with a shotgun


3-Shootout with two bank robbers


4-Family disturbance where a drunk/drugged husband slit the throat of his beautiful 19 year old spouse.


5-Five car pile-up on the interstate with eight fatalities.


6-Partner shot and killed on a ROUTINE traffic stop on your day off.


7-A 130 m.p.h. pursuit.


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Maybe you should to be a counselor.  I don't believe if you've  thought of killing yourself  you should be a police officer.  Remember, you will be wearing a weapon of mass distruction at all times.  Think about it!!  We don't want you to suddenly decide death by comrade or citizens is your ticket out of here.  They might just take you up on that offer!!  Stay encouraged you'll find your fit.  It took me almost a decade to decide where I really supposed to be. 

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 Wow Dave after reading that I shouldn't have sugar coated my response....LOL

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 Become a Detention Officer or Corrections Officer first. You'll be dealing similar if not the same people day in day out that you'll one day arrest if you become an LEO. If that doesn't make you depress, then go for it! 


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Would someone please correct me if I'm wrong but is your weapon considered a  "weapon of mass distruction" as abristol140 stated?   I always thought nuclear bombs were.  


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 As I recall helpadviseme I believe anything that  go bomb and can kill you  can cause mass distruction.  But lets look up the terminology.  


 


A "weapon of mass distruction" (WMD or WoMD)  is a nuclear radiodialogical biological chemical or other weapon that can kill and bring significant harm to a large number of humans or cause great damage to man-made structures (e.g. buildings), natural structures (e.g. mountains) or the biosphere. enwikipedia.org.


To bad they don't allow us to cut, copy and paste here.  but you think about it!!  


 

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 As I recall helpadviseme I believe anything that  go bomb and can kill you  can cause mass distruction.  But lets look up the terminology.  


 


A "weapon of mass distruction" (WMD or WoMD)  is a nuclear radiodialogical biological chemical or other weapon that can kill and bring significant harm to a large number of humans or cause great damage to man-made structures (e.g. buildings), natural structures (e.g. mountains) or the biosphere. enwikipedia.org.


To bad they don't allow us to cut, copy and paste here.  but you think about it!!  


 


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So I guess our guns are not a weapon of mass destruction then?????? unless we have an endless number of magazines/clips or speed loaders. What do you consider a large number is? 1,2,3, 5, 50?


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 Not only do I refer to guns  as weapons of mass distruction but your vehicle can  be used as a weapon of mass distruction.  As I recall aiplanes were used as weapons of mass distruction during the 911 attack.  I still don't believe law enforcement is the place to be if you have had suicidal tendacies in the past.  I wouldn't want to give anyone a gun who's not happy with their own life and have thought about taking it in the past.   You life is far to precious.  Never kill yourself! I'm just saying.  

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 Not only do I refer to guns  as weapons of mass distruction but your vehicle can  be used as a weapon of mass distruction.  As I recall aiplanes were used as weapons of mass distruction during the 911 attack.  I still don't believe law enforcement is the place to be if you have had suicidal tendacies in the past.  I wouldn't want to give anyone a gun who's not happy with their own life and have thought about taking it in the past.   You life is far to precious.  Never kill yourself! I'm just saying.  



2/21/14 trains, busses and any number of things then could be considered the same, maybe in your spare time you could re-write the definitions for these things. The bottom line is you used terminolgy that we considered wrong although your telling the OP this isn't his calling is spot on.


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 Not only do I refer to guns  as weapons of mass distruction but your vehicle can  be used as a weapon of mass distruction.  As I recall aiplanes were used as weapons of mass distruction during the 911 attack.  I still don't believe law enforcement is the place to be if you have had suicidal tendacies in the past.  I wouldn't want to give anyone a gun who's not happy with their own life and have thought about taking it in the past.   You life is far to precious.  Never kill yourself! I'm just saying.  



2/21/14 trains, busses and any number of things then could be considered the same, maybe in your spare time you could re-write the definitions for these things. The bottom line is you used terminolgy that we considered wrong although your telling the OP this isn't his calling is spot on.


 


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Ask for a waiver from the psych doctor. When I went to BLET they sent us for a physical.  Certain question were asked from the physcian.  If you pass your physical then go for it.  I wouln't even mention it if it's not asked.  


 


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 Not only do I refer to guns  as weapons of mass distruction but your vehicle can  be used as a weapon of mass distruction.  As I recall aiplanes were used as weapons of mass distruction during the 911 attack.  I still don't believe law enforcement is the place to be if you have had suicidal tendacies in the past.  I wouldn't want to give anyone a gun who's not happy with their own life and have thought about taking it in the past.   You life is far to precious.  Never kill yourself! I'm just saying.  



A gun (aka Firearm) is a DEADLY WEAPON, not a weapon of mass destruction.


Anything with Wiki in its name, is not a definitive source (it's user entered info - you get what someone behind a computer puts in).


Definition I read from a reputable source says: WMD: pl - Nuclear, Chemical or Biological Weapons that can cause indiscriminate death or injury on a large scale.


I don't consider an airplane in itself to be an WMD. In the manner it was used on 9-11, it certainly caused indiscriminate death and injury on a very large scale. However, it is still a mode of transportation and was not designed to inflict those types of injuries. WMD's on the other hand, are specifically designed to cause those types of injuries and/or fatalities.


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You guys need to set her straight. According to her pictures she is running for sheriff.   


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You guys need to set her straight. According to her pictures she is running for sheriff.   



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"Depression is the kiss of death."


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Frankly, UD, I was a little depressed until I read this.  YOU SLAY ME!!! AHAHAHA!!!


Helpadviseme, good advice here.  One thing I know for sure about cops is that most of them are specialists in dark humor. Gotta be.  Whatever career pursuit you choose, try laughter.  Good Luck and Stay Sane! 


 


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Where ever you apply this should come out in the first interview. Personally, I think it is the kiss of death.


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Bill, just read back in this thread.  Sooo...I'm confoosed.  What are we talking here?  Body mass??? 


abristol40, could a squirt-gun be classed as a weapon of mass destruction in the hands of a...gasp... suicide cult??!! 



 


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abristol40 says ...



 As I recall helpadviseme I believe anything that  go bomb and can kill you  can cause mass distruction.  But lets look up the terminology.  


 


A "weapon of mass distruction" (WMD or WoMD)  is a nuclear radiodialogical biological chemical or other weapon that can kill and bring significant harm to a large number of humans or cause great damage to man-made structures (e.g. buildings), natural structures (e.g. mountains) or the biosphere. enwikipedia.org.


To bad they don't allow us to cut, copy and paste here.  but you think about it!!  


 


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So I guess our guns are not a weapon of mass destruction then?????? unless we have an endless number of magazines/clips or speed loaders. What do you consider a large number is? 1,2,3, 5, 50?


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 Wow Dave after reading that I shouldn't have sugar coated my response....LOL



I think you and Dave both did a very professional job with this question.  Both honest yet sensitive,  took the topic seriously and realistically.  I have to say that I learned that LE isn't for everyone.  I have the utmost respect for you all that have to face what you have in your careers.


I would like to suggest that maybe this person take a Citizen Police Academy Course.........You do learn a lot and you SEE a lot.  Even so it's nothing like seeing these things in the field.  This career is a calling.  Some get called too late in life so you have to re-evaluate.  There are many other positions in LE.  The depression might not be a problem.  Just be straight up and honest.  Good luck with your decision.

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I do not see how an agency can take the risk of hiring someone with this history. It's just not feasible. In reference to a posting by someone earlier; it's one thing to get into NCBLET at a local community college. It is something totally different to actually graduate and then be successfully hired on. Agencies look into things that BLET doesn't and can't. Mental illness is one of those things. It is my opinion that this person should be honest about their issues and should not be hired. I don't want someone who has threatened to hurt themselves (or others) in the past responding to calls with me.


You can't cure stupid.

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AjsdaddyBPD, I agree.  In fact, this thread would be better titled, "Can I Stay A Police Officer and Fend Off Depression?"

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 MarlyB that is a great title and should have its own thread. We see a lot of things that would make the happiest person melancholy. Folks in this business fend off depression in many ways, not all of which are healthy for the mind, body, and soul. Personally I like riding my Harley. All the attention paid to the road and the scenery is very relaxing. Any troubles I had when I got on it were forgotten as soon as it was put in gear. I have some friends who try to lose themselves in their work or even worse in a bottle. That is certainly not the way to go. Perhaps some other folks can chime in on what they do on their down time?


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As one of my friends says, "There are times when White Man's Medicine does the job.  It's good for forgetting."  A temporary cure that itself becomes the ongoing problem.  Added to the other ongoing problem of 'unseeing what has been seen.'


I heard cops do profit from hard physical work-outs, but hey let's be real.  Countless shrill and stupid, mean-spirited day-to-day grinds would be unsettling enough without the stowed-deep snapshots of casual cruelty and utter horror that can eat your mind.  I knew a retired homicide detective who needed Rx 'knock-out drops' to get to sleep. 


I didn't ask what kept him awake.  It should be obvious to anyone.


I dunno how you all get there without losing heart, but you do.  God love you.

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Let your husband  or your wife find you slippin' off necking with a fellow police officer and see how quick you weapon can become a weapon of mass distruction.  BOMB!!! LOL

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Not going off topic with weapons of mass destruction...


Anything that can be considered a liability (depression or any other mental or physical health issues) is looked at as just that, a liability. 


 


 


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One must learn to fend off depression.If one works in a large city P.D. you will probably see more terrible,depressing,tragic,disgusting events in any given month than a civilian would see or could imagine being involved in in a lifetime.If an officer,be it a male or female cannot cope with their emotions they had better get help A.S.A.P. or better yet go work in a cannery.Bump DL's last post.

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Go work in a cannery.  Is that a lateral move?   

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 Before everyone writes this candidate off, let me tell you a story.


One of the officers I was honored to work with was a Vietnam Vet. Marine Corps. machine gunner. When he came back from the war, he was diagnosed with suicidal tendencies and depression. He even spent time in a psych hospital. 


He turned out to be one of the best cops I ever worked with, He had an instinct that made him a yop notch investigator, street cop, and (as I affectionately referred to him) our own bloodhound. He was better than any K9 for sniffing out drugs and contraband. He was also a top notch president of our union and a skilled negotiator. He retired a sergeant and now has a son on the job. He just took the Bar exam with hopes of becoming a lawyer (god knows why). 


I spent 25 years on the road, a majority of them working with him. He was an inspiration to most of us as well as a roll model for what a cop should be. Yeah, we see the absolute worst out there. And I can match anyone's tales of things that can make a weak man/woman lose it. I don't think most people can do this job.


 


The OP has only asked if their history will disqualify them. Correct me if I am wrong, but most agencies require a psych test for their applicants. If he/she passes this test, they just might be a good candidate. 


 


Just sayin'


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


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BigNTS your fellow officer is a fire-breathin' powerhouse!!!  I guess the message is that there are exceptions to the rule and it can't hurt to give it a shot!

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 Before everyone writes this candidate off, let me tell you a story.


One of the officers I was honored to work with was a Vietnam Vet. Marine Corps. machine gunner. When he came back from the war, he was diagnosed with suicidal tendencies and depression. He even spent time in a psych hospital. 


He turned out to be one of the best cops I ever worked with, He had an instinct that made him a yop notch investigator, street cop, and (as I affectionately referred to him) our own bloodhound. He was better than any K9 for sniffing out drugs and contraband. He was also a top notch president of our union and a skilled negotiator. He retired a sergeant and now has a son on the job. He just took the Bar exam with hopes of becoming a lawyer (god knows why). 


I spent 25 years on the road, a majority of them working with him. He was an inspiration to most of us as well as a roll model for what a cop should be. Yeah, we see the absolute worst out there. And I can match anyone's tales of things that can make a weak man/woman lose it. I don't think most people can do this job.


 


The OP has only asked if their history will disqualify them. Correct me if I am wrong, but most agencies require a psych test for their applicants. If he/she passes this test, they just might be a good candidate. 


 


Just sayin'


 


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