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I went back and looked at some of the threads we were posting when Policelink was first new.  The posts have really changed from topics that discussed everything from search and seizure to use of force issues.  Now it seens to be topics like word games and can I be a police officer if I have done drugs in my past.


When I first joined the site, we use to have some great debates on how we do things in this job.  Some even got pretty heated to the point where we had an area called the "Fight Room."  Have we exausted every possible LE related topic on this site?  Maybe we should revive some of them and get back to why this site was created in the first place.


I realize Law Enforcement is an ever changing profession,  but are the calls for service reallyh that much different than they were 10 years ago?  It's still very dangerous out there on the streets, and I would like to see the leo members go back to the types of posts that helped other officers handle tough situations.  There is a lot of experience on Policelink, and we need to share our experience to help the new officers, and citizens deal with issues that we have experienced in the past. 


I don't mind the word games, but I would like to see more police related debates come back. I have seen a lot of good officers leave the site bacause of the types of topic that are now being posted on this site.  We need to keep that experience on here and stay focused with helping other officers with every day issues.


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JIMROC I agree with you although the police related threads need to be in the LEO only forums not out where every T o m, D i c k and Harry can peruse the depth of the conversation. I would love to see some of the comadery of the days gone by.


The troll and a few other reasons caused the lack of intellligent conversation, that and people being verified that weren't LEO's. Then we got our own verification system to help clear those things up.


Come on folks let's get active again, Oh Jim that was fight club I believe.


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Howdy, fellas ....


There has been definitely less activity here than in the past. It is not unique to PoliceLink. It is all over.


Since 2007 and the innovation of social media, there has been a gravitation toward bigger, better and 'where people go' for their social media life. PoliceLink has experienced a significant drop off membership. Generally, different interests, being busy, different options for the LEO community, and on ad nauseum. When PL burst on the scene, it drew many people. It was one of the few places to go for law enforcement social media.


Since then, many more law enforcement media outlets have sprung up. Additionally, and more importantly, agencies have developed policies that keep their employees at bay. It was all pretty new in 2007 and eventuallly departments drew up policies that heavily screened and limited their personnel from being 'obvious' on social media sites. Also since that time, social media is one of the first places agencies go to see what potential employees are doing on the internet. 


PoliceLink is generally not had the budget to have continued upgrades and support. We are static. BUT, we are still here which means we have value to someone 'out there'.


The discussions that we had back early on are still valid, and need new voices. If there are people who come on to see if they are viable due to past problems, each one needs to be answered and not referred back to another place on the site. No one likes being in voice-mail jail, so we shouldn't do it either.


We haven't exhausted topics. We just need to let new voices to generate the same kinds of discussions all over again. Just like locker room talk. 


Lastly people got burned out with the novelty of being online for long hours at a time. They forgot the lawn needed to be mowed, their significant other needed attention and their lives were consumed with being online. Generally, people have pulled back. Notice that MySpace has become a byword. Facebook is the equivalent of an international telephone book and person locator. The online experience is no longer novel.


But WE are still here!


And as cops, that speaks volumes. The original admin folks that ran the place are 100% gone, ... be WE are still here.


Another spur site that generated from folks from this site has come and gone. But WE are still here !


We may not have the big flashing lights as some other sites do, but our porch light has been on non-stop since April 2007.


Pretty good, I'd say.


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


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PoliceLink - hmm Police Topics sounds logical    We all need to get back to the "basics" --- Keep the basics strong you will never go wrong.

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JIMROC I agree with you although the police related threads need to be in the LEO only forums not out where every T o m, D i c k and Harry can peruse the depth of the conversation. I would love to see some of the comadery of the days gone by.


The troll and a few other reasons caused the lack of intellligent conversation, that and people being verified that weren't LEO's. Then we got our own verification system to help clear those things up.


Come on folks let's get active again, Oh Jim that was fight club I believe.


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I posted this in the Genera; Discussions for a reason. We are not discussing sensitive topics here for Leo's only. I think the civilian members of Policelink also need to be heard, as this is their site to.  I just wanted to get some opinions like TheSarge posted.  I think we need to revive some of the old topics with new voices as he stated. 


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PoliceLink - hmm Police Topics sounds logical    We all need to get back to the "basics" --- Keep the basics strong you will never go wrong.



DD02 I agree. The nature of the beast in law enforcement is that work tends to pull us here and there thus making access somewhat limited. People get busy, times change, internal agencies policies change, blah blah blah. Also this used to be aplace where one could speak one's mind however some folks didn't appreciate it. Folks got their feelings hurt and many members with lots of police experience have gone dark or left altogether because they were asked to. True we need to bring topics of interest back not only for our older membership but also for the newbie out there who may need a question answered. There are some things which need to be discussed out in the open and others that do not. Let us keep in mind we are all brothers and sisters and we should have each others backs. Now go out and play nice.


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dptydawg02 says ...



PoliceLink - hmm Police Topics sounds logical    We all need to get back to the "basics" --- Keep the basics strong you will never go wrong.



DD02 I agree. The nature of the beast in law enforcement is that work tends to pull us here and there thus making access somewhat limited. People get busy, times change, internal agencies policies change, blah blah blah. Also this used to be aplace where one could speak one's mind however some folks didn't appreciate it. Folks got their feelings hurt and many members with lots of police experience have gone dark or left altogether because they were asked to. True we need to bring topics of interest back not only for our older membership but also for the newbie out there who may need a question answered. There are some things which need to be discussed out in the open and others that do not. Let us keep in mind we are all brothers and sisters and we should have each others backs. Now go out and play nice.


 


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I must say that the frank discussion are what brought me here, but we started worrying about some of the words, minus all of the unnecessary expletives and that was all part of venting.  Like this country we have allowed a bit much PC, but nature of the beast.  It would be good to get back to those discussions, after all the laws are changing and legal updates are a good topic to spawn discussion or other case law pertinent topics.  The fundamentals as coach says...

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JIMROC I agree with you although the police related threads need to be in the LEO only forums not out where every T o m, D i c k and Harry can peruse the depth of the conversation. I would love to see some of the comadery of the days gone by.


The troll and a few other reasons caused the lack of intellligent conversation, that and people being verified that weren't LEO's. Then we got our own verification system to help clear those things up.


Come on folks let's get active again, Oh Jim that was fight club I believe.


Unbelievable that the system won't let me type D i c k without the sorry message in red.



I posted this in the Genera; Discussions for a reason. We are not discussing sensitive topics here for Leo's only. I think the civilian members of Policelink also need to be heard, as this is their site to.  I just wanted to get some opinions like TheSarge posted.  I think we need to revive some of the old topics with new voices as he stated. 



Jim if you thought that  I was suggesting that you had done something wrong I wasn't my comment was to the membership here to remind them of the LEO forums. I know that you are not discussing sensitive topics here


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Boy, the trolls have been quiet lately...



Ah, yes, I said the "Q" word.


Every now and then great news articles are posted that should spur debate or at least a lively conversation.


 


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 I'm a civilian myself and I miss the LEO kinds of forum topics.  I find them every now-and-then but I have noticed for every update to a LEO topic, the "game" topics blow up my forum update list.  Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy the fun topics, but I also learn things from the informational topics that I can use when I finally start up my career.  And whatever happened to that "Figh Room".  It wasn't here when I actually started becoming more active on here but it sounds like fun.


Oh, and Donna, when the trolls come back in swarms I blame you lol.

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I sometime miss the plethora of trolls.Sooner or later they make fools of themselves and it is enjoyable to help them do so.As far as the word games,etc, if one looks back one will find they were begun by verified leos.

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 I'm a civilian myself and I miss the LEO kinds of forum topics.  I find them every now-and-then but I have noticed for every update to a LEO topic, the "game" topics blow up my forum update list.  Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy the fun topics, but I also learn things from the informational topics that I can use when I finally start up my career.  And whatever happened to that "Figh Room".  It wasn't here when I actually started becoming more active on here but it sounds like fun.


Oh, and Donna, when the trolls come back in swarms I blame you lol.



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Okay, yes I play the word games because they are mindless and I don't have to think real hard when doing them. Unlike my job where you have to be on edge all the time.


I have put topics out there in the past and get chastised for not looking to see if someone 2 years ago had the same topic. Sorry I don't have the time to go looking when I think of a valid topic that I think should be discussed.


We as a whole can be a little mean and sometimes cruel to new members who ask questions that should be obvious. But like me maybe they do not have the time to search around to see if it had been asked. 


We got some very intelligent folks on here both L.E.O. and civilian and we should let them all have their say with out making them feel inferior. Trolls are an exception and should be dealt with accordingly and I say let the sport begin when one is located. Be safe out there folks and remember God loves you as does gudercop.   


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Mighty fine post Alan and bump to you brother.I confess I have ,at times, probably come off as a smart alec.

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Thanks Brother


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Jimroc I appreciate you remembering us civilians lol. I have been a member since late 2007 and have learned many great things from many of the officers. I also remember how heated the debates were and they proved to be a invaluable tool and even some of the issues have helped me when I am on duty doing security. So let's visit some old topics and give them new light.


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bill9823 says ...



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JIMROC I agree with you although the police related threads need to be in the LEO only forums not out where every T o m, D i c k and Harry can peruse the depth of the conversation. I would love to see some of the comadery of the days gone by.


The troll and a few other reasons caused the lack of intellligent conversation, that and people being verified that weren't LEO's. Then we got our own verification system to help clear those things up.il


Come on folks let's get active again, Oh Jim that was fight club I believe.


Unbelievable that the system won't let me type D i c k without the sorry message in red.



I posted this in the Genera; Discussions for a reason. We are not discussing sensitive topics here for Leo's only. I think the civilian members of Policelink also need to be heard, as this is their site to.  I just wanted to get some opinions like TheSarge posted.  I think we need to revive some of the old topics with new voices as he stated. 



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Well, Quite frankly I am amazed that We are all still here. 


I will share my personal thoughts of how I have come here, at times, to look for info............ and been saddened by the Death Notices.  Hard to remember this is such a large nation............. when each one hits like a ball bat to the gut.


And how I have come here to chill with a friendly crowd.......only to find a fight in progress over some perceived transgression.


But, over the years, I have learned........... grown................ thought................ about so many things........ and believe I am a better person for it.


And, If you had ever told me that I could be deeply saddened by the passing..... of a internet aquaintance that I never meet..... I might have quickly pondered and rejected that ..........Two have passed on now.......... and I find myself still mourning for PL friends that I never had the pleasure of seeing "face to face".


PoliceLink has become a world of it's own for me.


I know how hard the Sarge worked to keep this site from being absorbed into Monster as a minor Sub-Entity and I, for one, am very grateful.


So I agree with JIMROC that more Back to Basics Type Forum(s) is a good idea.


And yet I wonder how much slack should be given............ as I believe We have all seen individuals on this site and in this profession...... that aren't happy........ unless they are stirring the pot and tweeking everyone up for their own amusement.


 

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All great replies to the OP.


I came here shortly after its inception in 2007, and yeah, the site's activity has slowly dwindled....but as TheSarge put it, WE are still HERE, and can without a doubt put the jumper cables back on the batteries of PoliceLink.


It was only not that long ago that I started frequenting PL a bit more again after taking a break, and because of that, had the opportunity to meet two members here face to face at Police Week in D.C, as well as became introduced to the great organization called Concerns of Police Survivors, and now a liaison for them.


Let's get this party started!!  Oh, and bring on the trolls, I always enjoy reading the eloquent smackdown of them by some members here lol


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I think that trolls are a large part fo the problem and responsible for some of the decrease in activity on PL.  Numerous active  former members have left because of trolls and trolls keep coming back.

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All great replies to the OP.


I came here shortly after its inception in 2007, and yeah, the site's activity has slowly dwindled....but as TheSarge put it, WE are still HERE, and can without a doubt put the jumper cables back on the batteries of PoliceLink.


It was only not that long ago that I started frequenting PL a bit more again after taking a break, and because of that, had the opportunity to meet two members here face to face at Police Week in D.C, as well as became introduced to the great organization called Concerns of Police Survivors, and now a liaison for them.


Let's get this party started!!  Oh, and bring on the trolls, I always enjoy reading the eloquent smackdown of them by some members here lol



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lol good point facepalm....


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Trolls have never really bothered me. Our Moderators have the abilities to put them to rest without much effort.


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All great replies to the OP.


I came here shortly after its inception in 2007, and yeah, the site's activity has slowly dwindled....but as TheSarge put it, WE are still HERE, and can without a doubt put the jumper cables back on the batteries of PoliceLink.


It was only not that long ago that I started frequenting PL a bit more again after taking a break, and because of that, had the opportunity to meet two members here face to face at Police Week in D.C, as well as became introduced to the great organization called Concerns of Police Survivors, and now a liaison for them.


Let's get this party started!!  Oh, and bring on the trolls, I always enjoy reading the eloquent smackdown of them by some members here lol





11/02/13 See it doesn't take these guys/gals long to find things here.


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I don't mind trolls at all.  I kind of enjoyed flinging them around and then extinguishing them with my little red button.  Some would try to come back under a new login, but we were much smarter than they were. 


I know I don't post as much as I use to, because most of the topics don't really require replies.  I do read most of them and find myself trying to think of something to say, but it's not always there for me.  We can really teach each other a lot about LE, and how we do stuff in different jusisdictions.  I know I have learned a lot from other officers and civilians on this site.


Remember we are not all going to agree with everything said on this site, but that 's part of the fun.  All I ask is don't be rude about it, and don't take it personally.  We have a lot of Type-A personalities on here, and thinks are going to get a little heated from time to time, but that's okay.  We can deal with it.


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Hello! I just wanted to say that it is an honor to be able to talk with so many different LEO's and civilians with so many different personality types and areas of experience. I've learned quite a bit since I became a member of PL and the tips I recieved from some of you regarding a past oral board interview really helped and enabled me to pass it with a very good score! I appreciate all of you and I am glad that you are all here doing what you do.


And I'd love to see some more indepth and specific topics for conversation like JIMROC spoke of. Anyways, stay safe and God bless all!


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I think some have left because many departments now monitor Social Media sites which this is one and if you say anything derogative towards the department or the city/county/state/federal political body or their leadership, or anything that could even be construed as derogative, you could face sanctions to include termination.


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I definately concur with my friend Dwight.One doesn't see many active duty officers,Deputies or Troopers on this site.I consider this narrow minded of those in power in these organizations.

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