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Just curious on how many of you have dealt with Excited/Agitated Delirium. Does your department require training on it or have you had training on it?


What I'm looking for is just a general discussion regarding this growing problem. How did you deal with it? What clues did you find most useful? What can you share regarding it that could keep others safe while on duty? What tips would you give others (i.e. officers, dispatchers EMTs, etc) when dealing with this?


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 Sounds like bath salts?


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Clov3r says ...



Just curious on how many of you have dealt with Excited/Agitated Delirium. Does your department require training on it or have you had training on it?


What I'm looking for is just a general discussion regarding this growing problem. How did you deal with it? What clues did you find most useful? What can you share regarding it that could keep others safe while on duty? What tips would you give others (i.e. officers, dispatchers EMTs, etc) when dealing with this?


Be kind just want to pick others brains is all (No pun intended)


~ Clover



10/18/13 Clover it is good to see you back here it has been too long


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 We were required to take a one hour course which consisted of watching videos mostly.


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Clov3r says ...



Just curious on how many of you have dealt with Excited/Agitated Delirium. Does your department require training on it or have you had training on it?


What I'm looking for is just a general discussion regarding this growing problem. How did you deal with it? What clues did you find most useful? What can you share regarding it that could keep others safe while on duty? What tips would you give others (i.e. officers, dispatchers EMTs, etc) when dealing with this?


Be kind just want to pick others brains is all (No pun intended)


~ Clover



10/18/13 Clover it is good to see you back here it has been too long


Thank you Bill and Yeah it has been! Work has kept me pretty dang busy. Just when you think your done with classroom training theres more. However I wouldn't change it for one moment. 


 


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Nope. I haven't had any exposure to this delirium ... other than me myself maybe. 


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 Sounds like bath salts?


 


Not just bath salts from what I've understood... Past history of drug use or under the influence of drugs such as cocaine, meth, PCP ect. However there are some cases the person was not on any drugs at the time.


 


 


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Nope. I haven't had any exposure to this delirium ... other than me myself maybe. 



HAHAHA! Right Sarge as many of us have.... 



 

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 We were required to take a one hour course which consisted of watching videos mostly.



We had to take a two hour class with our POST training, but felt there could have been more information on it. Did you find the course helpful? After watching the videos would you be able to detect someone in this crisis? 



 


 



 


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Okay so until I can figure out how to post videos again here are a few links on this issue.... Guess my point of posting this topic is to learn more about it, but also make others aware of what it looks like, sounds like and looking pass the symptoms of pos being on drugs. From the first phone call if I understood right if it is treated like an medical emergency they have a better chance of survival. 


While I believe bath salts may have something to do with this, I also believe that there are other issues which can cause it. Following are a few links to a few videos. I apologize up front for what the one is title, I by far do not believe the officer's killed this man. I however believe it was his past history of drug use. Most people just want to blame the officers for most everything or blame drugs. Instead of pointing blame on the person who created their own problem for the choices they have made in their lives. So far what I can find in the limited cases out there each person has had some type of pass drug use, but have not always been on drugs at the time of the delirium. 


Also from class training and research I can also say this is not something new to our world bath salts where not aval back in 1849 Dr. Luther Bell described the symptoms of Excited/Agitated Delirium. (ref http:/www.ipicd.com) 


Caution graphic video's...

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You're going have to copy and paste links to your browsor... 


http:www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdzpoS8pTks&list=PLFCFBF9D03BBFDD43


http:www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8eyWHf1y50&list=PLpAc6kYpTZzcuNf3T6T23NU6L3UEBhgk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfEepVOQrpE&list=PLpAc6kYpTZzcuNf3mT6T23NU6L3UEBhgk

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 I've dealt with several cases of individuals exhibiting signs of "excited delirium." All of these instances were linked to prior drug abuse, including "bath salt" usage. One individual died after being Tased, others exhibited "superhuman" strength and extremely high pain tolerances. In every case the individuals were confused and agitated, unable to communicate, and aggressive. They were making animal-like noises and most were naked or barely clothed in an attempt to counteract the elevated body temperatures associtated with this condition.


It is indeed a serious and life threatening medical emergency. The hardest part is restraining or controlling the individual without causing injury to them or the officer, and without prolonged exertion from the individual. The longer they fight, the greater the chance they won't survive the encounter.


Good topic and I look forward to hearing how others have dealt with these situations as well. 


 


 


 


 


 


 




 

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 Thank you MH557 for your input, I am also looking forward to others inputs as well...


I have only had the chance to deal with this over the phone twice now in the last year. I can't help but wonder what else we can be doing to recognize it and make it a team effort to recognize it. It's that call "man running down the street naked" that should make most of think HMMM could this be pos "excited delirium"? I also noticed those who have died in the video's I've seen say "your killing me" is that a sign of the human brain recognizing the pos death before the person even knows it? Kind of like the impending doom feeling some get when they are sick. (going into the EMT side of my career) I have had someone say "I feel like I'm dying" and then bam their coding on us. This is just a touch of what I have dealt with so far in my career. I mostly find this topic interesting because there isn't a lot of information out there, but also think its pretty dang scary when one person can overpower several.