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 Just got my latest rejection letter today...did not even get past the oral boards this time.  Thats the worst part, and makes me 0 for 5 now.  I am really getting discouraged.  I scored well on the written exam, could not have scored any higher on the physical testing, and I can't be sure but I think it's the lack of experience/education that's getting me.  I'll have my associates in a couple of weeks and am planning to take a lot of credit hours to finish my BS ASAP.  I was also fired at my last job where I worked for 6 years.  It was unrelated to conduct, but I can't imagine that is helping my case any.  Anyone with tips or experiences they feel might benefit me, please feel free to comment!

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 Welcome to the real world. Rejection letters will be in your mailbox just as much as your credit card bills.  Jobs are not easy to find these days, either it be law enforcement or stocking shelves at your local grocery store. Employers now this too so they can be extra picky on who to chose to hire. The best I can tell you is to keep trying. Their are people on this site encluding myself that have tried to get on with any department for 1-5 years. Go get your BS degree. Try to get into a reserve program if you can. Keep your head and keep doing what you gotta do. 


You wouldn't go in there for a million bucks...A Cop does it for less...A Reserve does it for free....

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 Welcome to the real world. Rejection letters will be in your mailbox just as much as your credit card bills.  Jobs are not easy to find these days, either it be law enforcement or stocking shelves at your local grocery store. Employers now this too so they can be extra picky on who to chose to hire. The best I can tell you is to keep trying. Their are people on this site encluding myself that have tried to get on with any department for 1-5 years. Go get your BS degree. Try to get into a reserve program if you can. Keep your head and keep doing what you gotta do. 


 


Yes things are hard all over.  I recently saw a pre employment exam for a video store (an entry level associate position) that was harder than any police exam I have taken so far.  Are you an LEO?  How long did it take you to get a job offer?


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 Yes that's what the gold star badge means. It took me 5 years to find something.


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 Yes that's what the gold star badge means. It took me 5 years to find something.


 


I see.  Well that's discouraging and encouraging at the same time!  Thanks for the input.


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You have been given some good advice. Get your BS/BA Degree and a reserve position.

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Just 5 rejection letters! That is like a 6 month average for me! Yeah, it stings the pride and ego a little bit but keep at it. Work at getting on with a department as a reserve, then start working on getting your higher certifications. Get a college degree also. I've gone to a couple interviews recently where the interviewer was impressed with the fact that I had an Advanced Certificate (second highest level in Texas) and an Associates degree. I also have 7 years of experienxe and still I've gotten rejected for jobs with this much training and experience. Be patient and keep trying!


 


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 I have tried to get on as reserve, but I'm in a small town over an hour away from a dept. with a reserve program.  I would move If I could find work.  I've been at it a little over a year now but I guess I just feel like I'm so far behind the curve (I'm 28) that I'm starting to run out of time.

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 I travel 220 miles round trip for my reserve deputy work. If you gotta travel for something that you want you gotta do it. 


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 I have tried to get on as reserve, but I'm in a small town over an hour away from a dept. with a reserve program.  I would move If I could find work.  I've been at it a little over a year now but I guess I just feel like I'm so far behind the curve (I'm 28) that I'm starting to run out of time.


 


 


I was the same age when I graduated out of the academy and 29 when I got my 1st reserve position. Make the drive, if they'll hire you.



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Tell us about how and why your got fired from your last job.


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 Well I worked there for six years.  Started in a low level position and then worked my way up to the highest available at that particular location.  There were several contributing factors including:  lack of business (employee's had been taking turns working one less day each week, and for the first time in the history of the business they owner reduced the hours of operation), a change in the majority of the staff (most of them new to the field of work and to the workforce in general, and we did not exactly see things eye to eye you could say.  Still I don't feel it effected my work in any way.), and they found out I was trying to find work as an LEO and I don't think they were thrilled about that.  I was always early to work and when I was on a salary put in well above the hours I was getting paid for.  Frankly I feel like I was a loyal, competent, and hard working employee and discharging me was not a fair action at all.  I feel the owner would still give me a good reference if needed.

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 One thing I have learned over the years is to keep going. 


I have gotten rejection letters several times. I finally had my interview with one agency and the interview panel recommended me for hire. Needless to say I did not get the job. I was a little upset, but I am not giving up. I found out why I did not get hired. I have a couple of friends that work for said Dept and they are trying to help me out.


I really want this job and I am going to keep trying. It is for a Tribal dept. They are tough to get into.


 


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 You might try some smaller Departments usually the battery of requirements is less. another idea might be to look at the openings of Departments that are hiring for non-sworn positions. Dispatchers, 911 operators, administrative, or with some departments (especially Sheriff's Departments) jail or correction officers to name  few. Many departments always seem to be hiring for support positions. This gets your foot in the door while giving you knowledge and experience with the agency. I know many places that give preferential treatment to current staff that wish to move over to patrol position.

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 You might try some smaller Departments usually the battery of requirements is less. another idea might be to look at the openings of Departments that are hiring for non-sworn positions. Dispatchers, 911 operators, administrative, or with some departments (especially Sheriff's Departments) jail or correction officers to name  few. Many departments always seem to be hiring for support positions. This gets your foot in the door while giving you knowledge and experience with the agency. I know many places that give preferential treatment to current staff that wish to move over to patrol position.


I have thought of that too, along with trying to build better relationships with the local dept.  After getting the rejection letter initally for about 3 minutes I think to myself what is the point, but it never lasts.  I suppose in the end it just strengthens my resolve.  I have always though that you never fail until you  stop trying.


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 Do not get discouraged, I applied at over 50 places and got hired by one.  Departments just aren't hiring as much as they used to.


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i just read on many of the news wires that senators are making a legislative deal to make an amendment to a bill that would probably DOUBLE  the size of the Border Patrol which we all know is part of the Dept. of Homeland Security. I dont know about anyone else, but if i was still looking for a job in law enforcement and couldnt find work, i would be banging on their doors to apply to this federal law enforcement organization.

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I have said it before in similar threads and I will say it again in this one.  When you can say that you have gone through this over the course of 15 years and you can no longer remember how many rejection letters you have received or how many departments you have applied for only to be rejected despite even self sponsoring yourself as a pre-service cadet (on your own dime)........ THEN AND ONLY THEN, YOU CAN TALK TO ME ABOUT HOW TOUGH IT IS AND HOW DISCOURAGED YOU ARE ABOUT BEING REJECTED.


Yes, things are tough all over in today's employment market generally speaking.  Keep in mind that the job market in law enforcement is even tougher.  The budget cuts that most (if not all) cities and counties across the country are faced with have resulted in hiring freezes and in some cases, lay-offs.  Those departments that are hiring are seeking to fill one or two openings with some larger departments seeking to fill anywhere between five to ten on the average.  The other side of that is that for every available position, you are one of hundreds, if not thousands competing for that same position.  It is extremely competitive and yes, can be extremely discouraging.  How do I know this?  Because the job climate in law enforcement was the same when I started my 15 year quest.


You say that you are from a small town.  How far outside of that small town have you actively applied?  Do not limit yourself to a 10, 20, 30 or 50 mile radius from your current home.  Do not limit yourself to one form of law enforcement department.  Along with the usual state police / highway patrol, county sheriff's department and local city police departments, many college or state universities also have police departments.  Some school districts (K-12) also have their own police department.  What's the point to this?  Be prepared to pack up and move anywhere if it means getting hired.


NOW....... You can continue your quest, complete your degree and maybe even consider self sponsoring yourself in a pre-service academy if that is an acceptable option in your state....... or you can quit.  You have to decide if you are willing to accept all of the disappointment and discouragement that will come your way....... or not.  You have to decide if all of the disappointments and discouragements are worth the prize.  You have to decide for yourself if you are willing to continue to be motivated in spite of all of the disappointments and discouragement.  You have to decide just how bad you want in this law enforcement family of ours.  You have to decide if this is your calling or just a cool job to have.  You aren't the first one to go through this and you won't be the last.  Your disappointment and discouragement is felt by many.  You have to decide if you will press on or quit.


If you decide to quit and look for something else, that's fine and there is no shame in that.  If you decide you are going to press forward and stay on your quest until you have obtained the prize, STOP YOUR WHINING, pick yourself up by your bootstraps and keep on applying with the knowledge that there may be many more rejection letters before the prize actually comes your way.

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I have said it before in similar threads and I will say it again in this one.  When you can say that you have gone through this over the course of 15 years and you can no longer remember how many rejection letters you have received or how many departments you have applied for only to be rejected despite even self sponsoring yourself as a pre-service cadet (on your own dime)........ THEN AND ONLY THEN, YOU CAN TALK TO ME ABOUT HOW TOUGH IT IS AND HOW DISCOURAGED YOU ARE ABOU BEING REJECTED.


Yes, things are tough all over in today's employment market generally speaking.  Keep in mind that the job market in law enforcement is even tougher.  The budget cuts that most (if not all) cities and counties across the country are faced with have resulted in hiring freezes and in some cases, lay-offs.  Those departments that are hiring are seeking to fill one or two openings with some larger departments seeking to fill anywhere between five to ten on the average.  The other side of that is that for every available position, you are one of hundreds, if not thousands competing for that same position.  It is extremely competitive and yes, can be extremely discouraging.  How do I know this?  Because the job climate in law enforcement was the same when I started my 15 year quest.


You say that you are from a small town.  How far outside of that small town have you actively applied?  Do not limit yourself to a 10, 20, 30 or 50 mile radius from your current home.  Do not limit yourself to one form of law enforcement department.  Along with the usual state police / highway patrol, county sheriff's department and local city police departments, many college or state universities also have police departments.  Some school districts (K-12) also have their own police department.  What's the point to this?  Be prepared to pack up and move anywhere if it means getting hired.


NOW....... You can continue your quest, complete your degree and maybe even consider self sponsoring yourself in a pre-service academy if that is an acceptable option in your state....... or you can quit.  You have to decide if you are willing to accept all of the disappointment and discouragement that will come your way....... or not.  You have to decide if all of the disappointments and discouragements are worth the prize.  You have to decide for yourself if you are willing to continue to be motivated in spite of all of the disappointments and discouragement.  You have to decide just how bad you want in this law enforcement family of ours.  You have to decide if this is your calling or just a cool job to have.  You aren't the first one to go through this and you won't be the last.  Your disappointment and discouragement is felt by many.  You have to decide if you will press on or quit.


If you decide to quit and look for something else, that's fine and there is no shame in that.  If you decide you are going to press forward and stay on your quest until you have obtained the prize, STOP YOUR WHINING, pick yourself up by your bootstraps and keep on applying with the knowledge that there may be many more rejection letters before the prize actually comes your way.


 


 


Good, good post.  Good posts from all and I appreciate the input, but this one in particular spoke to me.  Maybe it is whining, in which case I will shut-up.  I suppose this, at least for me, has turned out to be one of those "you don't know what you don't know until you know it" scenarios.  I also think that in the first department I applied to I made it though the process as one of a very small percentage of candidates that was left out of the hundreds who applied.  I think that probably distorted the reality of how difficult this would be.  Anyway, I feel like I have no other option but to succeed even if it takes years to do so and am just seeking the advise of those who have been in my position.  Thanks all.


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I'm a recent graduate from the Academy (March '13), and I'm now finishing up the hiring process to the first place I applied to. My experience is basically 0 compared to most on those on the forum, and a lot of good advice was given. Something that I did that I think really helped me get to where I am is to make my face known. The dept I'm being hired onto is 3 hours away from where I was living, though it was a bit of a drive I went ahead and did a ride along and drilled, drilled, drilled the LEO I was riding with, with questions about the agency. When I returned home the next day I sent an E-mail to the Chief thanking him for the opportunity and that I look forward to discussing my qualifications with him. A few days later I received a response with a time to meet him back at the department. I drove another 3 hours (one way) to just sit and talk with the Chief and discuss any questions I had, what it is EXACTLY that he is looking for..ect. Even though we only spoke for about 25 min, it was worth it...my face has now been seen twice. About a month later I recieve an E-mail saying to come in for testing, next day the Physical test, then Oral boards. 3-days later I receive another email saying congrats! You made it to the investigation phase...fill out this packet.


Just trying to thow options out there.


 


EDIT: I did basically the same thing with 2 local cities andthough I turned them down, I received calls to set up an interview with me.

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i just read on many of the news wires that senators are making a legislative deal to make an amendment to a bill that would probably DOUBLE  the size of the Border Patrol which we all know is part of the Dept. of Homeland Security. I dont know about anyone else, but if i was still looking for a job in law enforcement and couldnt find work, i would be banging on their doors to apply to this federal law enforcement organization.



I've actually looked into that myself.  For right now I am just finishing my degree and get in much better shape.