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Posted about 1 year ago

 

 Hello everyone, I am new here and have question that will take a bit of background writing so I will start by thanking anyone who takes the time to read and respond before I blast you with a giant wall of text. 


11 years full time LEO with a very good record of honesty and only one disciplinary action where I stupidly forwarded an email (non-sexual just griping to someone else after it was forwarded to me) I shouldn't have and I received a proper written reprimand. Moving on, my new chief was hired and we all knew beforehand that he was a scumbag. I don't say that as a disgruntled employee who didn't like authority or anything either. Literally he was a scumbag, the CM who hired him got fired for hiring him and giving him a contract. Can't go into detail but we no-confidence voted him before he even stepped through the door. Something about him not disclosing he was the subject of a fed investigation and resigned the former job to avoid it, you get the picture. So as we all know certain types of chiefs like him love having sidekicks and he found one in one of our supervisors. The particular supervisor was apparently conducting illegal activity in the workplace and 4 of us were questioned as witnesses. The chief found out who we were beforehand and approached all of us individually while we were on duty (he was not and it was late at night) asking us to not co-operate with the investigation. We all refused the chief's offer and the supervisor was dismissed. Slowly and methodically he fired 3 of the others for BS reasons and the dept payed them healthy sums of money to go away. They all got jobs somewhere else and moved on. My end was not quite so easy. I suffered an off duty car accident (not my fault. Got hit by a drunk) and was severely injured. My rehab was to take more surgeries and time off than I had available. I thought about taking a medical but that would prevent me from ever being a cop again once I recovered and the percentage would be low since it was off duty. When my time ran out and the doctor still wouldn't release me the chief fired me for being absent without leave. I sued and was given a payout but nothing major and told I would receive a neutral reccomendation. I went on to start my own business becuase I was seriously questioning policework at the time. My business failed and my medical bills were astronomical. I had to file bankruptcy. I was picked up by a small agency as a part- timer but their funds have run out and I don't know what to do. I am totally rehabbed and back in shape but I fear applying to another decent dept with the firing and bankruptcy is going to kill my chances. I am planning on moving out of state and trying for a medium sized agency. Should I just go talk to the chief before I even apply? Any advice is greatly appreciated. This is the only job I truly have a passion for. It's certainly not the money that's for sure!

White_shirt_max50

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Call and axe.

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uncledennis1 says ...



Call and axe.


You seem to be pretty experienced and I have seen you reply to a lot of posts on here. What would you say to me if you were the chief and I called and axed you? Keep in mind I have never had a traffic ticket, no drug problems and I have a lot of training. Would you rather I call and schedule a meeting with you to explain before applying or just apply? See my fear is that if I simply start applying I will be shot down on the credit check and who knows what a "neutral reference" means. I also don't have any idea what he put in my file. Thanks for reading. 


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uncledennis1 says ...



Call and axe.


You seem to be pretty experienced and I have seen you reply to a lot of posts on here. What would you say to me if you were the chief and I called and axed you? Keep in mind I have never had a traffic ticket, no drug problems and I have a lot of training. Would you rather I call and schedule a meeting with you to explain before applying or just apply? See my fear is that if I simply start applying I will be shot down on the credit check and who knows what a "neutral reference" means. I also don't have any idea what he put in my file. Thanks for reading. 


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Because of your experience I would take the time to meet with you. Bankruptcy can be the kiss of death. I would also be concerned with your physical limitations regarding your vehicle accident. Sounds like you received a bad shake. If/when you make application I would choose my words carefully regarding the chief. Good luck.

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uncledennis1 says ...



Because of your experience I would take the time to meet with you. Bankruptcy can be the kiss of death. I would also be concerned with your physical limitations regarding your vehicle accident. Sounds like you received a bad shake. If/when you make application I would choose my words carefully regarding the chief. Good luck.


sir, I don't intend to bad mouth the chief or the department but this is a pretty unique situation where I will have to explain the circumstances surrounding my dismissal. As far as physical limitations, it took me a year and a half to heal and that included having all the pins, plates and screws removed from my body. I'm now (thanks to a great surgeon) in shape enough to run 3 miles a day and bench press more than 100 pounds over what I weigh. I workout 6 days a week and am in a great relationship. I just want to go back to helping and protecting people.. Before I was dismissed I was the community oriented police officer for the department. I have many officers and supervisors who will back me up in writing if need be but my concern is that the new dept won't even get that far. I'm afraid that after the credit check ill be booted and sent the "Thanks but no thanks" letter. I am trying to find the best way to avoid this. 


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With the state of the economy bankruptcy's are at an all time high. They will want to know the circumstances, length of  time and what you have done to improve your credit rating. Written documents from supervisors would be of assistance regarding your work history.

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Bump Uncle D... Take the time to try.  With your experience, departments are also desperate for good seasoned officers to fill their empty positions.... I was also dealt a bad shake with my previous department, so I know that fear of applying very well.  (Yes Uncle D I should take my own advice right??)


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