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Hello all, My name is Michael and I have taken the NPOST and passed. I am now trying to find sponsorship within my city. My reason for this discussion is, what is the ethical thing for your current empolyer to do. I talked to my boss and he was in complete shock when I told him that I am changing my career from hairdressing to LE. Utah is a fire at will state. I guess my question is, can I be fired for becoming a police officer, If I am, how am I suppose to react to this? If I had an employee tell me this I would be very supportive and help in any way I could.  What are your thoughts on this. I know it is illegal to fire someone for joining the Military or the reserves. Does this federal law apply to LE?


 


Thank you and I look forward to your responses.


Michael

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Google "Utah Labor Commission". The website has a wide variety of information. Or you can call them (Mon-Fri; 8a-5p) at (800) 530-5090.


Good luck.


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When I decided to pursue my career I told my parents and a good friend. I did not broadcast it to others. You have gotten way ahead of yourself apprising your employer. Follow the advice from 36TR and consider a conference with an attorney.

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 Yeah, you could be fired for it but you could be fired for not shaving before going to work. Or simply because the boss doesn't like you! Just relax and don't get too far ahead of yourself. How did your boss react to it? To my knowledge that same law you're talking about does not apply to law enforcement, but I'm  not very well versed on federal law. Good luck! 


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 I'm with uncled.  I would never have told my boss I was thinking of making a move.  It is really none of his/her business.  With that being said follow the advice of 36TR.  Good luck in pursuing your dreams.


 

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 im in Co., as far as I know under the right circumstances, your boss may fire you for just about anything.. so telling him/her about a job you may not even have secured yet may be jumpin a little ahead. Well, good luck anyway


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 My boss is pretty understanding he is also a long term friend. I just hope this doesn't effect my overall goal of LE. His reaction wasn't oh Jesus why. His exact words were, "that's awesome, I have a friend that is a chief I can ask of he knows of any openings." I just don't know. What to expect. Thank you guys for your input! And I will call the commission Monday! 

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Hello all, My name is Michael and I have taken the NPOST and passed. I am now trying to find sponsorship within my city. My reason for this discussion is, what is the ethical thing for your current empolyer to do. I talked to my boss and he was in complete shock when I told him that I am changing my career from hairdressing to LE. Utah is a fire at will state. I guess my question is, can I be fired for becoming a police officer, If I am, how am I suppose to react to this? If I had an employee tell me this I would be very supportive and help in any way I could.  What are your thoughts on this. I know it is illegal to fire someone for joining the Military or the reserves. Does this federal law apply to LE?


 


Thank you and I look forward to your responses.


Michael



4/21/13 if he is a long time friend then why are you worried you could lose your job?????


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After reading your last comment I must agree with Bill. I question your purpose of posting this topic. I am curious if you conducted any research prior to addressing it here. To many members attempt to use this site as short cuts to questions that would involve minimal research.

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 My details were kind of short. 


The company I work for has multiple locations. Each having a different partner. But each location answers to the main owners. I simply wanted to know if anyone has had experience with this topic. That's all. No short cuts just seeking advice from those who have already been through what I am going through. Thank you for your concern uncle. 

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If you live in an, "At Will" State, you can be terminated for any reason or no reason as long as the business follows it's policy and procedures. Colorado is an "At Will" State and I have spoken to a lawyer about this issue in the past.  Our police department policy stated just what I said.  You can be terminated for any reason or no reason at any time.   


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Should have just given 2 weeks notice after you had your LE job in hand. I learned this lesson a few years back and I was working full time for my cousin whom I grew up with, went to school with and was best friends with, (or so I thought), I told him I was planning on starting my own business, (and it had nothing to do with his line of business either), the following year and would be leaving him but I might could still work part time if he needed me, within 2 months (right before my paid vacation was suppose to go in effect), he cut me to part time and hired the part time guy full time, I stayed for 3 months after that working part time there and went ahead and opened my business, although it was a struggle and still is at times, and after the 3 months I just give my 2 week notice and quit. The moral of the story is to keep your mouth shut until you have to speak and don't volunteer any information when it comes to things like this, and never assume anything.

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Should have just given 2 weeks notice after you had your LE job in hand. I learned this lesson a few years back and I was working full time for my cousin whom I grew up with, went to school with and was best friends with, (or so I thought), I told him I was planning on starting my own business, (and it had nothing to do with his line of business either), the following year and would be leaving him but I might could still work part time if he needed me, within 2 months (right before my paid vacation was suppose to go in effect), he cut me to part time and hired the part time guy full time, I stayed for 3 months after that working part time there and went ahead and opened my business, although it was a struggle and still is at times, and after the 3 months I just give my 2 week notice and quit. The moral of the story is to keep your mouth shut until you have to speak and don't volunteer any information when it comes to things like this, and never assume anything.


 


Thanks for sharing your story! My reason for telling was because a department called my current employer. Which I had an obligation to share. Nothing is worth lying over. A small lie the size of a hill turns into a huge mountain that you'll have to face eventually. So, is it really worth the stress. At least this way it's not my conscience, it's theirs! The number one reason I want to be a LEO is because it's and honorable career. Why not express honor, respect, hard work, and trustworthiness now. Having a clear conscience and knowing I did the right thing says to me that when I do receive an offer it's because of my honor, respect, hard work and trustworthiness.. 


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I agree, don't ever lie if they ask you. You didn't mention the fact that your employer knew and asked you, so I was going under the assumption that you just volunteered the information without being prompted. Good luck my friend, sounds like you should make a good officer with your ethics. Remember that you are truly the person that you are when nobody is watching, not the person you are in front of others. Stay ethical and morally just, and you'll do great. God Bless.

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You stated your boss when you first mentioned your goal was in complete shock (your words) other comments you stated he said awesome. Have you made application with any agency. If so where are you in the processing?

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I have applied for 2 openings thus far. Utah trooper, and utah correctional officer. I've completed an interview with utah corrections, and I'm going to a PFT on may10th for the trooper position. 

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I applied with the Lexington KY PD.  As part of the final stage of the application process they wanted to contact my current employer, at that point I had no choice but to let my employer know.  I don't mean to discourage you, but it was one the factors that caused me to lose my job. That and slow business.  Since I was on the high end of the company pay scale, that helped them too.