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Delta_35th_max50

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So I recently bought the Wlather PPQ and I am having a really hard time finding a duty holster for it. Someone told me they thought the Safariland 6365 ALS or 6360 would work, but I’d rather not spend a hundred dollars on a holster and have it not work. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

White_shirt_max50

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Why not contact Safariland?

Silver_warrior_max50

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How about a generic holster from Uncle Mike's gear. . . .it may not fit like "a glove" because it is really kind of a generic type of store, but then again, it is pretty cheap and durable.


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Actually I purchase all my leather gear on ebay at a great savings. Put the make of gun and holsters and hit the search button. If you are seeking a law enforcement career you wil need to become more of a thinker.

Delta_35th_max50

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Uncledennis1 I did contact Safariland and they told me that they could not confirm that the weapon would fit in that holster due to liability, it was made for the Walther P99 not the PPQ I was told by someone that it would fit so I’m trying to get some other opinions. Beowulf_7 the holster has got to be level lll retention because it's on a duty belt for work.


P.s Uncledennis1 I’m all ready a law enforcement officer but thanks for the advice. The only reason I’m asking on this site is because I’ve exhausted all other resources. I thought this would be a good place to ask if anyone had come up with a solution.

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I think I would go to a local gun shop. . . .or a gun shop that actually has supplies of things and not just an ordering station.  Once there, see how close your weapon resembles that P99 and see how the two fit into several different makes of holsters made for one or the other.  That would be my suggestion before shelling out money on a holster that doesn't fit well.  While there, if they have an armourer there, I'd see if they knew if the differences between the weapons would be enough to negate using a holster that fit a P99 to fit your current weapon.


Another option is to contact a representative of Walther.  I believe I had heard that they and Smith & Wesson had gotten together.  Ask the representative if they had a recommendation on a line of Safariland holsters (if that is what you either have to use or choose to use) that fit your requirements.  Good luck!


I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I expect the same from them.

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ment2B says ...



So I recently bought the Wlather PPQ and I am having a really hard time finding a duty holster for it. Someone told me they thought the Safariland 6365 ALS or 6360 would work, but I’d rather not spend a hundred dollars on a holster and have it not work. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


The Safariland ALS holsters for the P99 will not fit the PPQ. The differences in slide dimensions prevent the ALS system from operating, and the gun will not insert into the holster with the system in tact. Remove the ALS (two screws) and the gun will fit, but the trigger guard will contact the adjustment (tension) block and fit isn't perfect or ideal. The hood will rotate and retention isn't terrible, but you know as well as I do that "good enough" isn't going to cut it in our line of work.


Unfortunetly its a waiting game for the holster companies to catch up with demand. I remember having the same problem with a Springfield XD when they first came out. Great gun, but no holsters! lol


Good luck and let us know if you find a solution! Be safe.....


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I just checked ebay and there were 49 holsters for your gun. I am curious if you are in law enforcement or security?

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Why would you buy such an irregular gun for a duty weapon???


What agency is it that you work for that allows you to have such an "uncommon" duty weapon??

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TreeHugger719 says ...



Why would you buy such an irregular gun for a duty weapon???


What agency is it that you work for that allows you to have such an "uncommon" duty weapon??



Had a partner a while back ago that desired to carry a "Baby Eagle" in .40 cal.  He had purchased the firearm some time before becoming a police officer.  While it is a good firearm, it was not a firearm commonly used as a primary firearm by any police agency in the USA.  The Walther PPQ fits into this category.  It appears to be (I have not personally seen or fired this weapon) a nice weapon but it is not used as or considered to be a primary weapon by any police department to my knowledge.


That said, the liability concerns of Safariland would or should become the liability concerns of your department and you.  Consider the liability they inherit if they say "yeah, it'll work" and you proceed to have a negligent discharge and someone is injured or killed.  Once determined that your firearm is not considered a standard type of weapon commonly used in law enforcement, your entire rig will come into question.  What kind of holster were you using and was it manufactured specifically for your weapon.  Unless you find one that is, the answer will be NO.  The use of a holster that was not specified by the holster manufacturer will become a factor.  The holster manufacturer will want no part of that law suit and as stated, tell you that the holster is NOT designed for your weapon.  You and your department will be held liable.  Why?  Because you were the officer using the irregular weapon in a holster not designed for this weapon at the time of the negligent discharge and the department knew or should have known that you were using an irregular weapon or weapon not commonly used by police departments and in a holster not properly designed for said firearm.


If I were you, I would consider different choice options in your duty firearm carry until such time that you find a level III holster specifically designed for the ON-DUTY use of your PPQ.

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I hope the OP responds to my question.

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uncledennis1 says ...



I hope the OP responds to my question.



I hope the OP decides on a more commonly accepted duty weapon than trying to make something work that wasn't designed for what he got.

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SkoolCop says ...



uncledennis1 says ...



I hope the OP responds to my question.



I hope the OP decides on a more commonly accepted duty weapon than trying to make something work that wasn't designed for what he got.



Just out of curiosity. . . . .seeing that this weapon has only been on the market since 2011, how much testing has it been through?  Has it been through enough of "the wringer" so that one knows where its "breaking points" are?  I guess in the end. . . . . .how reliable is this weapon?  Not just because it carries the name "Walther" on it. . . .but because one can put 10's of thousands of rounds through it, through less than desirable conditions and it keeps on. . . keeping on!  I don't know about anyone else, but I don't think I would put my life in the balance of wanting to carry the newest thing and finding out when the rubber met the road. . . . .the road won because a small part failed at that moment of need.


I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I expect the same from them.

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Beowulf_7 says ...



SkoolCop says ...



uncledennis1 says ...



I hope the OP responds to my question.



I hope the OP decides on a more commonly accepted duty weapon than trying to make something work that wasn't designed for what he got.



Just out of curiosity. . . . .seeing that this weapon has only been on the market since 2011, how much testing has it been through?  Has it been through enough of "the wringer" so that one knows where its "breaking points" are?  I guess in the end. . . . . .how reliable is this weapon?  Not just because it carries the name "Walther" on it. . . .but because one can put 10's of thousands of rounds through it, through less than desirable conditions and it keeps on. . . keeping on!  I don't know about anyone else, but I don't think I would put my life in the balance of wanting to carry the newest thing and finding out when the rubber met the road. . . . .the road won because a small part failed at that moment of need.


Larry Vickers (Vickers Tactical) has been evaluating the PPQ for some time and is quite impressed. Here's a link to a thread with his thoughts thus far -http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=102115


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So I found a holster that works well with the Walther PPQ. The Safariland 6365 ALS Level 3 holster works quite well, designed for the Smith & Wesson M&P. The two weapons have very similar characteristics allowing a snug but adjustable fit.


koolcop, this would be the case; I had bought the weapon prior to becoming an LEO. When I purchased the Walther I had no intention of using it as a primary duty weapon, nor did I know it would be so hard to find a level three holster for it. Like MH557 said the weapon has had a lot of testing and is used in many European countries as a primary duty weapon. I myself have put quite a few rounds through it, several hundred and feel very confident in the reliability of the weapon. I would recommend the Walther PPQ to anyone.

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When you compare the price of a Walter PPQ vs. a S&W M&P, the edge definately falls to the S&W.  With the exception of their .22's, I have always considered Walters overpriced.   I also agree that carrying a oddball duty weapon seems  IMO not the best of ideas, when I was previously with agencies that let and required the officers to purchase their own firearm with only caliber restrictions, I always carried Glocks or S&W's.


Know Cat_D has been busy but if ment2B is really a LEO, he should get verified here.

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ment2B says ...



So I found a holster that works well with the Walther PPQ. The Safariland 6365 ALS Level 3 holster works quite well, designed for the Smith & Wesson M&P. The two weapons have very similar characteristics allowing a snug but adjustable fit.


 


 


"S"koolcop, this would be the case; I had bought the weapon prior to becoming an LEO. When I purchased the Walther I had no intention of using it as a primary duty weapon, nor did I know it would be so hard to find a level three holster for it. Like MH557 said the weapon has had a lot of testing and is used in many European countries as a primary duty weapon. I myself have put quite a few rounds through it, several hundred and feel very confident in the reliability of the weapon. I would recommend the Walther PPQ to anyone.


 


 



So has the CZ75, it's variants and all of its clones (Tanfoglio clones like the TZ75 and TA90, others like the Baby Eagle, Jericho, etc.) that were readily available in the U.S. when the Czech made CZ75 was not allowed to be imported.  All of them outstanding weapons.  Many of them used extensively in other countries for LE.  No one made holsters specifically for it either.  Don't know about your department, but most departments and even academies here have specific policies regarding the weapons accepted.  In the example given earlier, the Baby Eagle was purchased by the friend of mine prior to his academy training.  He wanted to use it in the academy.  The range-master said no.  He bought a Glock just to make it through the academy and hoped to use the Baby Eagle when he eventually landed a job.  The agency that hired him said, no.  Not because the Baby Eagle wasn't a good firearm, but because there were no holsters that by policy specifically fit the weapon.  They were not willing to bend because he found a holster that seemed to work well.  Simply put, they were not willing to accept the liability if something went wrong.  Now if you and your department is willing to take that risk and inherit that liability, then that is on you and your department. 

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Are you a police officer. I axed on this discussion and sent a PM with no response. Please apprise me. I have sent two PM's to the OP and he does not respond.