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When I was 14 my friend broke into my neighbors house and stole a bunch of stuff and then went to school and was bragging about it to everyone. When the school resource officer found out about it. My friend at the time (no longer friends) put my name into and to make a long story short I went to court and got in trouble for it. The punishment was probation, community service and restitution and was dismissed after I completed the probation and everything. I have spoke to the juvenile court about this and they said the entire case was dismissed. would this still be a disqualifier to enter a Law Enforcement Position?

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Was the charge dismissed or were you placed on deferred adjudication? Contact the court and ask again. It'll make a huge difference.


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Probably gonna depend on the department...


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Mdoyle4711 says ...



When I was 14 my friend broke into my neighbors house and stole a bunch of stuff and then went to school and was bragging about it to everyone. When the school resource officer found out about it. My friend at the time (no longer friends) put my name into and to make a long story short I went to court and got in trouble for it. The punishment was probation, community service and restitution and was dismissed after I completed the probation and everything. I have spoke to the juvenile court about this and they said the entire case was dismissed. would this still be a disqualifier to enter a Law Enforcement Position?



I want to make sure I completely understand this. Your friend committed a crime, completely and entirely without your involvement, and "pinned" it on you? You were a totally innocent bystander who was framed and then railroaded by the justice system. Is that correct? How you answer that question will determine what advice we can offer.


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You might want to read your State Statutes pertaining to Juvenile Crime.  In Colorado, Juveniles do not commit crimes, they comitt Acts.  They are not found guilty of a crime, they are found involved in an act.  Therefore when they turn 18, their juvenile records are sealed, unless they are on probation, then it will carry over after the age of 18.


When a juvenile turns 18 and wants to join the military, they can honestly state on their application that they have no criminal convictions.  Another example is, if the juvenile act was a felony type crime if commited by an adult, the juvenile cannot be charged with possessing a weapon by a previous offender, if the felony was committed as a juvenile, because it was an act and not a crime.


Don't know what State you are in but you might want to look into this defenition it might help you out. In Colorado, we don't pay a lot of attention to juvenile acts, when an applicant applies for a police job.  Unless it was an extensive record, that continued to the age of 18.  A one time incident was no big deal.


 


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Mdoyle4711 says ...



*Snipped.... to make a long story short I went to court and got in trouble for it. The punishment was probation, community service and restitution



I'm confused. You were put on probation, did community service and paid restitution for a Crime that A) you did not commit and B) was dismissed. Probation, Community Service and Restitution would indicate a conviction. 


Double check again with the court and asked if the record was sealed or if you paid restitution, did community service and put on probabtion for a charge that was dismissed (dismissed typically means it's done and there is no conviction/sentencing)


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I agree with the majority. Check and see what the rules are in your area. Good luck!!

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In the Juvenile Court System in Indiana, one can be placed on Probation or have numerous other terms placed on them by the Court prior to the disposition of the case.  Therefore, this could be the case with the original poster.  He very well may have been put on Probation, etc...then had his case dismissed.  It is possible, at least in IN.

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In California, the juvenile would be arrested and the case submitted to the juvenile district attorney and juvenile probation.  Since juvenile probation has authority over the juvenile, he or she would be placed on juvenile probation status pending the outcome or disposition of the matter pending before the juvenile court.


Given the information as stated by the OP, I would want to know exactly what the disposition was.  Was there an actual conviction and probation served as ordered by the juvenile commissioner or judge?  Was there an order pending that upon completion of restitution and not being involved in any other criminal activity as ordered by the juvenile commissioner or judge, that dismissed the case?  Or having been put on juvenile probation pending the outcome or disposition of the matter pending before juvenile court, was the case regarding the OP dismissed due to a lack of evidence against the OP?


Of course this is all assuming the OP is being honest with us and was not involved in the crime or act committed by his friend as the OP has stated.  We have no way of knowing that, short of being involved in the original investigation or subsequent court proceedings.  What is key is that the OP stated that this so called friend is no longer a friend.  If the OP is not telling the truth here and is looking for a way to justify act(s) or crime(s) committed, the truth should come out during the background investigation and subsequent polygraph exam.


What is important to learn for all those who may read this that are juveniles right now and are aspiring to be in LE in their future..... Pay close attention to what your alleged friends are doing.  Do not find yourself caught up in their acts of stupid.  RUN..... don't walk AWAY and lose those so called friends as they are not what they profess themselves to be.  They will get into trouble and then roll on you so as not to take responsibility for their own actions.  If you are not careful, their actions WILL have a profound negative effect on your future career plans.


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1) IN THE RIGHT PLACE


2) AT THE RIGHT TIME


3) DOING THE RIGHT THING(S)


4) WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE


It does not matter which order you put it in.  Guaranteed, if one is out of whack, so are the others.  You should constantly be checking and re-checking yourself against this standard, be quick to recognize when something is not right, step back, assess and fix it.

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well put SkoolCop...

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MH557 says ...



Mdoyle4711 says ...



When I was 14 my friend broke into my neighbors house and stole a bunch of stuff and then went to school and was bragging about it to everyone. When the school resource officer found out about it. My friend at the time (no longer friends) put my name into and to make a long story short I went to court and got in trouble for it. The punishment was probation, community service and restitution and was dismissed after I completed the probation and everything. I have spoke to the juvenile court about this and they said the entire case was dismissed. would this still be a disqualifier to enter a Law Enforcement Position?



I want to make sure I completely understand this. Your friend committed a crime, completely and entirely without your involvement, and "pinned" it on you? You were a totally innocent bystander who was framed and then railroaded by the justice system. Is that correct? How you answer that question will determine what advice we can offer.


Standing by for your response.


02/18/13



It wouldn't be the first time that someone was railroaded by our great justice system. But the story does seem a bit odd after all I would just say that I wasn't there and since I wasn't there you can't prove that I was. So yea I feel we are only getting bits of the story as normal.

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Anxiously waiting comment(s) from the OP with negative results thus far.

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February 15, 2013 5:23AM


7 days since the OP sought advice here.  The range of answers to this common question-


1.  Applicant advised to call and ask the gdepartment he's interested in applying to.


2.  Applicant advised to check state statutes in his particular state.  Examples of statutes.


3.  Admonishment that skirting the issue of guilt doesn't look good. 


4.  Caution to be forthcoming in the interview. 


If the OP won't do it, I will - on behalf of other civilians seeking info at PL- 


Thank you, Oficers, for taking the time to provide helpful responses.