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Poll: Do you think Mental Health should be excluded from HIPPA?

Polar-bear-wave_1533538i_max50

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Often when a bunch of people are killed we find out the perp is or was mentally ill. Therefore, I believe excluding Mental Health from HIPPA (making the info available to either the public or to authorities) would save more lives than gun restrictions. Additionally, many people who are dangerously mentally ill are being allowed to walk among us (and our children) without our knowledge or consent; often due to a lack of funding......starting to sound like a common theme....lack of funding for law enforcement as well. What do you think?


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The problem is doctors are bound by confidentially ethics. This is a very strong relationship.

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There is a fine line between a person's private health information and informing the public someone has a mental illness. Who decides when to go public with the information? If all the laws we currently have on the books were enforced things would work better than making more laws.

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It is the hallmark of a quality society to protect individuals from being subjected to the social stigma attached to mental illness.  HIPAA exists for a lot of reasons.  People can be victimized in all sorts of ways.  Our enlightened society prevents that.


The concept of 'Deciders' who release personal medical information to the general public is a thoroughly chilling thought.  Can you imagine what a muffling effect it would have upon those who might otherwise seek help?  And just who would decide who The Deciders are?

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Excellent point Marly. So how do authorities know if someone is too dangerously mentally ill to sell a gun to? Is there a 'decider' already in place?


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freezerburn says ...



Excellent point Marly. So how do authorities know if someone is too dangerously mentally ill to sell a gun to? Is there a 'decider' already in place?



Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your point of view) while the police are supposed to "try" to be proactive, they can still only react to violations of the law.  For the few laymen out there. . . . .generally speaking the legal system is supposed to be unable to do anything (i.e. punishment or restrictive) to ANY person until AFTER they have been suspected of committing a crime.  Now that is for the criminal end of the spectrum. . . . .for your specific topic of interest, much of the legal system still applies. . . . .you can't do anything until AFTER something has happened for probable cause that further restrictions must be placed upon a person.  Speaking generically here, how would you feel if someone out of the blue came in and pulled you into a hospital and took away many of your rights and priviledges such as your guns or driving a motor vehicle?


At one time societies would group people with contagious diseases together for the sake of society.  People who had Tuberculosis, Leprosy or any other disease of that nature where forced into asylums or colonies until they died or were "cured".  Back in the 80's I wondered and later asked why people with AIDS weren't treated the same way and the answer was. . . . ."If we did that, then those with the disease wouldn't be so forth coming with the information or coming in for diagnosis and the disease would spread faster."


True, mental illness is not a contagious disease.  However, if we as a society start packing these people off to asylums or restricting their rights just because they have a mental issue, how many soldiers are going to come in for help with PTSD?  How many police officers are going to come in for help after seeing that fatal motor vehicle crash where several children were killed and the officer is having a tough time dealing with it?  What about those officers and EMS workers that dealt with the school massacres?  If people start getting an idea that on the other end of help is a reduction in rights or priviledges. . . . .not many are going to search for that assistance.


In Michigan, only a mental court order signed by a judge could be entered into the computer that would be read by an FFL person doing a "background search".  How the information got to the judge?  I have no idea, but at the very least a judge was required to put his signature on the paper before rights and priviledges could be taken away.


I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I expect the same from them.

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Good info Beowulf, much of it I was totally unaware of. So basically it comes down to funding, enforcement, and accountability again; not needing new laws or change.


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There should have been a third choice:  Depends on the situation!


 


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Not everyone who seeks mental health help is mentally ill.  Some might seek help to assist them with a death in the family.  It seems like we medicate our society, instead of dealing with certain issues that could be resolved with a little medical care. The truely crazy people seem to slip through the cracks, because they fail to seek out help, or just don't know better.  These are some of our real problems in society that we need to fix.


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