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 For the small dept. yes. Our whole dept. is part time there. I know that seems bogus too, but it's the truth. I'm not trying to act more than I am here. I understand everyone's reservations, but it is how it is. 

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Ok then. Shoot me a verification request so you can be established as a sworn part-time officer.


As far as the I.D. cards, the vast majority of agencies have them. It's already been said but those of us who have had I.D. cards for our entire careers, then not having them seems incredulous.


And, if you are a part-time copper, then you understand the usual banter. Nothing here was outside the scope of normal cop perceptions and retort.


Normal.


Right?


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No I understand. Thanks for being professional. I don't blame anyone for being suspicious, I'm new and make rookie mistakes like anyone

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ethan2010 says ...



No I understand. Thanks for being professional. I don't blame anyone for being suspicious, I'm new and make rookie mistakes like anyone



I've been holding off from this but feel it is time to chime in here now with two points.


1)  When I was in recruit school, it was discussed (and tested) beyond question as to what the purpose of the badge and ID cards were, among other "things".  As a "rookie", it should still be fresh in your mind as to what each item stands for since you are soooo much closer to your LAW TRAINING than most of the people that are on this site that hold one of those little gold stars.


2)  If the chief is so concerned about an answer (other than maybe you asking a question and him having you look the answer up rather than just spoon feed you the answer), this is one of those topics that an intelligent individual would relegate to the Attorneys General/county/city/village attorney.  WHY?  Because that attorney is the one that is charged with defending the actions, OR NEGLIGENCE of the people in charge of the specific departments AND the employees that are acting in an official capacity of the city. . . .as long as those actions were not criminal in nature and in good faith with the appropriate laws of the specific venue you are talking about.


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ethan2010, badges are a dime a dozen and just about anyone can get a badge, especially an obsolute one ( and unless you worked for that specific agency, you probably wouldn't know it was an obsolute badge).  Anyone who tells me (when I am on duty)  that they are an off duty LEO and shows me a badge immediatedely gets asked for an official ID card to prove LEO statis.   I used to collect badges and while I don't any more , still have badges for 6 or 8 different agencies, some obsolute and some as still in current use, no ID's for any of these agencies however.

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I work for two departments, one is a large metropolitan city where everybody has I.D. cards right down to the leaf blower guys. The other is a small town where nobody has I.D.'s, we don't even have set uniforms. Chief wanted me to look into getting some made for us because the state likes everyone to have them although it's not required yet, as well as to have them should we get involved in a situation off duty. So I was just seeing how other places feel about them. 



So you work for both a large and small PD? I'm guessing full time for the large and part time for the small? If this is the case than how do you manage a life?

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 Haha, I burn the candle at three ends. Large department, small department, and I go to college amidst all that. Somehow it works out though 

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SO, BACK TO OUR POINT.


ARE YOU OR ARE YOU NOT GOING TO GET VERIFIED??????????


YOUR NEXT THREAD SHOULD ADDRESS THAT QUESTION AND NOTHING ELSE AS THIS THREAD NO MORE IS A MATTER OF ID CARDS BUT OF YOUR LEGITIMACY AS A SWORN LEO.


RESPECTFULLY,


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Officer safety issue number one, if I pull you over and you have a badge and no ID, you are getting detained.  I just have one question, are all the small dept. guys (who you say are part time) LEO's from other agencies?


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Our department is about as small as they come.  As I stated earlier, when I was sworn in, I received my uniform badge, my flat-badge and my department ID card with picture in my flat-badge wallet.


1. You still have yet to respond as requested to be verified here as LE so therefore there will continue to be doubt as to your actual status.  If you are what you say you are, then there should be no issue.


2.  If in fact you really are what you profess yourself to be, check with the laws in your state.  I am almost willing to bet that a police officer, reserve, part time, large agency or small agency in the state, county or city must be issued a department ID card with photo.  This ID card, in addition to having your photograph must also state your title of Police Officer and the authority (state statute) that qualifies me as a police officer under post and must be signed by the Chief of police.  If either of the departments you profess to be part of has not issued you a department ID card with photo, your department(s) and Chief(s) may be in violation of state law.

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In my state it depends on the class of city as to who signs the commission/ID cards. My state also required a thumb print on the card. I have never known an agency to not issue the card with the badge. I also question why the chief would assign this research to a newly appointed officer. I also look forward to your verification to remove all doubts to your status. To me the badge without the ID card is worthlesss as lips on a chicken.

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I'm curious as I have never heard of an all part time dept. before...why or even how is it all part time?

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navy_cop says ...



I'm curious as I have never heard of an all part time dept. before...why or even how is it all part time?



We have a few departments nearby that are part-time, but have a few full time officers (Chief and a few others). One of our departments is actually not open 24/7. If it's a non-emergency, leave a voicemail and they'll get back with ya. Otherwise, call the S.O.


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I'm curious as I have never heard of an all part time dept. before...why or even how is it all part time?


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I have heard of these agencies. Small, small, small. Guy works for a few hours and then hangs up his duty belt. Take home car and if need something call the allied agency nearby.


I knew of a 'department' that had one officer. Guess that would make him Chief, too. For a while, he didn't even have an authentic po-lice car. Remember, part-time workers do not necessarily get benefits. That would make hiring them desirable for a county or city with limited funding. Or they could just be cheap.



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TheSarge says ...



navy_cop says ...



I'm curious as I have never heard of an all part time dept. before...why or even how is it all part time?


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I have heard of these agencies. Small, small, small. Guy works for a few hours and then hangs up his duty belt. Take home car and if need something call the allied agency nearby.


I knew of a 'department' that had one officer. Guess that would make him Chief, too. For a while, he didn't even have an authentic po-lice car. Remember, part-time workers do not necessarily get benefits. That would make hiring them desirable for a county or city with limited funding. Or they could just be cheap.



AT one time, and it still may be true today, one man departements were the most numerous type of department in the USA, i.e. there were more departments with one officer than any other size.

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Cedardale says ...



TheSarge says ...



navy_cop says ...



I'm curious as I have never heard of an all part time dept. before...why or even how is it all part time?


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I have heard of these agencies. Small, small, small. Guy works for a few hours and then hangs up his duty belt. Take home car and if need something call the allied agency nearby.


I knew of a 'department' that had one officer. Guess that would make him Chief, too. For a while, he didn't even have an authentic po-lice car. Remember, part-time workers do not necessarily get benefits. That would make hiring them desirable for a county or city with limited funding. Or they could just be cheap.



AT one time, and it still may be true today, one man departements were the most numerous type of department in the USA, i.e. there were more departments with one officer than any other size.


 


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So, did they have to provide their own horse ? (with siren.... uh, scratch that. A 'naying' horse is siren enough)



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I have not seen the recent statistics, mine were from about 1990.

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Guess the OP is not coming back???

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Guess the OP is not coming back???



I guess you called it Mr TreeHugger. (BS) no word on his L.E status..