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Poll: EXECUTIVE ACTION AS MARKETING TOOL FOR SECOND AMENDMENT REFORM??? GASP!!!
Poll: HOWZABOUT A GENERAL BOYCOTT ON GUN CONTROL POLLS?
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Posted 4 months ago "THE MEDIUM IS THE MESSAGE"
PREMIUM? ECONOMY? GUN CONTROL? Advertising in particular capitalizes on media's power to do that. Ponder for a moment, that small monitor mounted on the gas pump that repeats commerical messages while you stand...idle? Alone in your thoughts? Well, SOMEBODY decided you didn't have enough on your mind, right? That little insertion into your archeocortex might tell you the medium is the 'massage' if you weren't already too soaked to care. Too soaked even while you are pumping gas, even while you are experiencing the Presidential Tweet's power to wrench the Second Amendment free of the Constitution and jettison it out past Pluto. PUHLEEZE!!! Bear with me, Friends. Creative Applications of Executive Orders is nothing new, but things THIS time, especially in the absence of Long War Topspin, seem to have gone into Constitutional Reform Warp Drive. Gives me the WILLIES!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_medium_is_the_message. |
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| Posted 4 months ago girlfriend, you sure said a mouthful. |
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| Posted 4 months ago Sometimes the KISS is a lonnnng one, Mikie. LOL!! |
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| Posted 4 months ago
EXECUTIVE ORDER AND THE ROLE OF CHILDREN A CARE MESSAGE TO KIDS AND PARENTS? PRODUCT PLACEMENT? BOTH? YOU DECIDE! |
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| Posted 4 months ago OK. So what we are looking at here is a POTUS under pressure to DO SOMETHING. Hmmm...so uhhh....just how DOES the POTUS "DO SOMETHING" without sending the deleterious message that our democratic system CANNOT serve by means of the ordinary deliberation of government??? IS President Obama sending an accidental message that the Second Amendment is inadequate to protect our nation's children? That We are all, somehow, complicit in our children's demise by exercising our right to keep and bear? A LOADED message. |
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| Posted 4 months ago What is the subtext contained in THIS "Children's Voices Matter" message??
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| Posted 4 months ago ON THE FLIP SIDE Another example of The Media is the Message. A subtext that complicates Second Amendment advocacy with a strange, contradictory message. This poster suggests concealed carry should be the privilege of a small sector of potential victims. Pretty ones. Would THIS poster's message carry the same weight if the model were NOT attractive enough to be a - gasp - 'candidate for rape'?
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| Posted 4 months ago Another prettified self-defense message that restricts Second Amendment guarantees to the privilege of the 'stacked.'
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| Posted 4 months ago Ok MarlyB on the photo of the gal with the pistol I was wondering what comic book/magazine was to her right? LOL Bad stuff happens to good people, handle it and overcome.
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| Posted 4 months ago I dunno, Guder. Babes N' Bullets? |
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| Posted 4 months ago MarlyB you have an amazing mind. I am as always thouroughly impressed by your writing skills. BRAVO you should be a writer. I will buy your books. |
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| Posted 4 months ago Thank you, KCecala. I will let you know when my next book comes out. It's a coffee table photo essay called "Performance Art in Law Enforcement" lol Below find a reduction of terms. Annd...elements of truth?? Unwanted counter-message...Does the charge of racism also fuel the paranoia of gun control enthusiasts?? Maybe. But here's another twist. This piece has a touchy-feely Democratic Party appeal. How's DAT for bi-partisan topspin? What do YOU think??
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| Posted 4 months ago One of our PL LEOS pointed out how the First and Second Amendments are interlocked. Of course, all the Constitutional amendments interlock. That's it's brilliance. And, brilliantly, the Constitution interlocks with another document that explains, before the fact, how the Second Amendment serves as Democracy's 'teeth'. Call it an 'advance' Presidential Order...
The Declaration of Independence: A Transcription
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| Posted 4 months ago I this Youtube video a black womans tells why control is wrong to her. She makes some vaild points, {{{http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn7bkncf1_E}}} |
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| Posted 4 months ago Polls are stupid, especially the way they are implemented here. Another thing: this topic is just one of those topics that gives everyone a ...... well, the need for a cold shower. I really do not think it is really possible to have a reasonable discussion on it. For instance, too many view it as an all or nothing proposition. If I say I want universal background checks, full registration (with privacy protections, of course), and more scientific studies, hardliners say I want to repeal the 2nd Amendment.. So, with that, I'll join the chorus of inane corrolaries, memes, poorly researched infographics, and the like. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xod1ZuRc3rk (Bill Maher: 2nd Amendment Is Not Under Attack, Your Other Rights Are)
Bessie Braddock: “Sir, you are drunk.” Churchill: “Madam, you are ugly. In the morning, I shall be sober.” |
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| Posted 4 months ago Bump TNDEPUTY and mz66 for your links to perspectives on gun control. A comedian pronounces the Second Amendment useless to defend a dead Constitution. A descendant of slavery exhorts us to shield Second Amendment guarantees.
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| Posted 4 months ago BUMP |
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| Posted 4 months ago .......................I'm sorry......uummm......was there writing on that girl's T-shirt? hehehehhehe Seriously tho, there is 'something amiss' for sure (see Austria voting in Hitler). I'm just not sure we can save this ship.... YaYa SweetAsAVelociraptor
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| Posted 4 months ago 1/25/2013 This President has used more executive orders than Clinton,Bush1 and Bush2 combined according to the stats I read. That is nothing more than circumventing our system of government. An administration that wants to ban all guns yet illegally sends Mexico hundreds in operation Fast&Furious. The republicans cry that our individual rights are being eroded yet they under Bush2 gave us the Patriot act which eroded more civil liberties than at any time in U.S. history. The argument that the 2nd amendment is a states militia/guard right and not an individual one is laughable. The entire Constitution and the Bill of Rights are solely INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS granted by our creator. It grants the branches of government authority FROM US! If the gun control advocates argument is to hold water then everywhere in the constitution the word PEOPLE must be replaced with the word STATE. This would in effect make the Constitution worthless. ""Life is a storm.. You will bask in the sunlight one moment, be shattered on the rocks the next. What makes you a man is what you do when that storm comes"
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| Posted 4 months ago 2nd amendment?, maybe we should be more concerned about the 10th amendment as well. |
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| Posted 4 months ago BUMP!!! |
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| Posted 4 months ago SGT405 says ...
Please cite your source. This is verifiably wrong according to this page here: http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/disposition.html Just going by the EO #s, some estimates can be had:
143 Obama (so far) 290 Bush 2 363 Clinton 165 Bush 1 380 Reagan
Bessie Braddock: “Sir, you are drunk.” Churchill: “Madam, you are ugly. In the morning, I shall be sober.” |
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| Posted 4 months ago It looks like snopes has done a write-up on that hoax, Al: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/executiveorders.asp ... ... You know...it's really disheartening to see people I know normally do a little fact checking just roll over and spew the first chain letter that lands in their email. This whole topic has made normally sensible people lose all perspective. Very depressing. :( Under ordinary circumstances, Al, I would've PM'ed you advising this--but the way people in general have been going full steam ahead with complete fantasy in order to advance their own paranoid agenda has really tweaked me off. I apologize that you had to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. For you, I will assume that this was an honest mistake. Bessie Braddock: “Sir, you are drunk.” Churchill: “Madam, you are ugly. In the morning, I shall be sober.” |
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| Posted 4 months ago mz66 says ...
Matt Snopes presents a biased opinion you know? I would rather use factcheck |
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| Posted 4 months ago You don't need either. I already posted the correct information in the prior response and used a good source. Please don't try to tell me that the National Archives website isn't a trustworthy source or I shall sink further into despair. Bessie Braddock: “Sir, you are drunk.” Churchill: “Madam, you are ugly. In the morning, I shall be sober.” |
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| Posted 4 months ago Ironic that you dismiss snopes and express a preference for factcheck.org, though. Factcheck did a write up on the alleged bias of snopes: http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/snopescom/
Bessie Braddock: “Sir, you are drunk.” Churchill: “Madam, you are ugly. In the morning, I shall be sober.” |
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| Posted 4 months ago Hey, tssssk, tsssk, ... finger wagging leads to things like, "Them are fightin' words, mister." I once grabbed a fingerwagger by the finger who had been wagging his finger close enough to my eyes that I could see his fingerprints. Putting my entire weight on the finger with a two-handed 'finger lock' ended up with my perp rolling on the ground in complete submission. He ultimately was not hurt but completely stunned that he ended up on the ground faster than gravity could keep up with him. Moral of the story: Please don't wag your digit.
Marly, I noted early on in the post the gal the Colt Python. (wide angle lens makes it bigger than it is.) I would suggest that she have a better grip on that weapon. All her teensy fingers are wrapped around it including her trigger finger around the outside of the trigger guard. Unless of course, she has a sixth finger on that hand. |
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| Posted 4 months ago Ahaha leave it to a cop, Sarge! I confess I'm media manipulated too. I did not even LOOK at the model's grip. I looked at her figure. As it stands, am I supposed to think that being stacked helps the citizenry care about their Second Amendment guarantees? Puhleeze. As for facts-finder showdowns, frankly I don't see a major dispute about manipulative and dangerous over-use of executive order in this thread. We can argue stats/gravity and time-frame admin-to-admin all night. But along comes Sgt405 to mention the Patriot Act. Now THAT is a string out of a coconut! Any case, mz66, it's better form to take left and right uppercuts to members' reputations into the pm ring.
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| Posted 4 months ago I absolutely love the fact that "Leave me alone I'm Eating" is leading the pole.
That is all. Have ASP will travel. Justice is the one thing you should always find, you gotta saddle up your boys you gotta draw a hard line. When the gun smoke settles we'll sing a victory tune and we'll all meet back at the local saloon. And we'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singing whiskey for my men beer for my horses. |
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| Posted 4 months ago NYTRDT1 says ...
That's the one I voted for--it's the only one that made any sense. Bessie Braddock: “Sir, you are drunk.” Churchill: “Madam, you are ugly. In the morning, I shall be sober.” |













