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Poll: PROFESSIONAL COURTESY

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The_cops_max50

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Da Horse Is DEAD, you can stop beating it.


 


 

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This is one of those topics that will never go away and there is no right or wrong answer because all situations are different.  But I think it is a necessary topic to discuss occaisionally.  It allows us to air grievences and talking things out makes us closer as a group.


Have ASP will travel.

Justice is the one thing you should always find, you gotta saddle up your boys you gotta draw a hard line.

When the gun smoke settles we'll sing a victory tune and we'll all meet back at the local saloon.

And we'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singing whiskey for my men beer for my horses.

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ssu459 says ...



Really has nothing to do with a specific agency,but each individual officer.I have been stopped by Harrison ,Arkansas Police,Nebraska state Police,Missouri State Police,Texas State Police,Pennsylvania State Police,Virginia state police,Springfield,Missouri Police and Republic,Missouri Police and Utah state Police.Of these nine incidents I was either retired or a juvenile in five of them.----I received one citation,that being from the Utah state police,when I was an active officer.We were quite cordial with one another.----In my career I stopped seven officers and never issued a citation,although two were super A-holes.



Dang dude, you need to go to driving school, or buy a Yugo.


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JIMROC says ...



ssu459 says ...



Really has nothing to do with a specific agency,but each individual officer.I have been stopped by Harrison ,Arkansas Police,Nebraska state Police,Missouri State Police,Texas State Police,Pennsylvania State Police,Virginia state police,Springfield,Missouri Police and Republic,Missouri Police and Utah state Police.Of these nine incidents I was either retired or a juvenile in five of them.----I received one citation,that being from the Utah state police,when I was an active officer.We were quite cordial with one another.----In my career I stopped seven officers and never issued a citation,although two were super A-holes.



Dang dude, you need to go to driving school, or buy a Yugo.



OUCH!  Now thats hurtful! 

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Actually I can explain every one of them.(sound like a civilian,don't I?)The Virginia state trooper stopped me at 0100 hours doing 95 in a 25 zone.I was 15 years old and running away from home (in my father's new car).Had beer cigarettes and three friends with me.He let me go and I thence went directly home.The Nebraska state trooper stopped me when I was doing 80 in a 65 and was late for roll call,on the other side of the city.Only time in my career I was late.He let me go.

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ssu, say 2 hail marys and buy us all a round. go and sin no more my son.

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Thanks MIKESPLACE,I can use the absolution.I was a pain in the backside to my parents.I quit drinkinjg and smoking some thirty years ago.My trwo  best friends as a juvenile have equal stories of being trouble causers.One is a retired Pennsylvania State Police Capt.,the other a retired Wash. D.C. Police Lt..Life is strange.

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I'm curious as to what the vote is on the poll. I did not vote, so I cannot see the results. If there was a selection, "it is okay, but it has its limits", I would vote for that one.

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schultzy04 says ...



I'm curious as to what the vote is on the poll. I did not vote, so I cannot see the results. If there was a selection, "it is okay, but it has its limits", I would vote for that one.



11 is ok to 5 not ok


"The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of moral crisis, do nothing." Dante

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1) I do things to let the officer know that no one in the car is a danger to them: I pull over, off the freeway, in a well lighted area (absent directions from them to do otherwise); turn down the music, turn on the interior lights, and roll down all the windows so they can see clearly inside.


2) I do NOT reach for my Badge, ID, insurance, etc... for the officer approaching, that can be seen as threatening; and once at the window, as arrogant.  Just because it may speed up the process of getting/not getting a ticket, it is not worth doing.


3) My hands, and all the passengers hands are in plain sight, in the same place I would have directed them to be if I was the guy on the outside of the car.


4) When (if) I am asked for my ID, insurance, etc...it is then and only then I say, something like: "Before I reach for anything, I want you to know I have my service/duty weapon in the car.  It is located _____ and my agency ID is _____ ." Then I follow whatever new directions they give me.


More often than not... because of steps 1, 2, and 3 the Officer will begin by asking me what agency I work for, rather than for the documents.


5) I am polite, even if they are not:  I can be angry (if necessary) after it is over.


6) I thank them if I get a warning, but I apologize for the infraction regardless.


And yes, I take the same approach to businesses that "show love" with a discount.  If a server forgets, or doesn't know, I simply pay the bill that they brought me.  I never ask or remind them.  Ever.


I always offer to pay at the mom/pop markets, even if they have "popped" for my purchase everyother time.  I always try to pay, I always say thank you to show appreciation, and visit with them a few minutes to ask what is going on in the neighborhood.


Each of these examples are ways in which someone shows a curtesy for what we do...but it has to be OFFERED freely, each time


We cannot afford to feel like it is owed to us...it leaves a bad impression.


 

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MetroRW30 says ...



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And yes, I take the same approach to businesses that "show love" with a discount.  If a server forgets, or doesn't know, I simply pay the bill that they brought me.  I never ask or remind them.  Ever.


I always offer to pay at the mom/pop markets, even if they have "popped" for my purchase everyother time.  I always try to pay, I always say thank you to show appreciation, and visit with them a few minutes to ask what is going on in the neighborhood.


Each of these examples are ways in which someone shows a curtesy for what we do...but it has to be OFFERED freely, each time


We cannot afford to feel like it is owed to us...it leaves a bad impression.


 



At a restaurant If given a discount I tip the difference so I was tipping in the 120 percent range were meals were half price, but I quit eating there.  Where offered free coffee and snacks, I have the  normal clerks trained to charge me anyway as I refuse to take the freebies.  They know that and ring up my coffee and snacks like they would for any non-LEO, and I am happy with that.  Occasionally i have to break in a new clerk, but that comes with the job.  I don't believe in special treatment at a restaurant or convience store just because I am a LEO.  When i used to go to QT, which has a nation wide policy of free coffee and fountain drinks to LEO's, i would buy bottled soda as that came at full price.

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Yep what Cederdale said. Another Deputy and I went to a neighboring town and had pizza in uniform and we got a 1/2 discount that they told us they gave to all emergency personel. I accepted this but then tipped the amount of the purchase and some as I do not take courtesy even out of my patrol area. I do not feel right about this and even paid when my mother-in-law who owned a sandwich shop offered to pay for my meal and a Trooper's. She felt offended but when I explained why to her she was fine. 


As far as giving a break to a fellow Officer yeah I have and will as I also give breaks to civilians also. Speeding, expired Registration and such what I will cut some slack. DUIs cite and arrest everyone even a fellow L.E.O. sorry I don't drink and drive and neither should you.   


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Metro nailed it with his reply.


I hate these threads about "professional courtesy". They consistently creep up every month or so and we beat the zombie topic to a pulp! ( I would say "death" but it REFUSES TO DIE!!)


The on duty police officer / deputy has discretion in most jurisdictions depending on the type and level of infraction / charge. Most Officers / Deputies exercise that discretion when encountering ANYONE in the course of their duties. It depends on ALL the facts and circumstances. When I worked traffic (about a hundred years ago) I gave reasonable breaks to reasonable people of all walks and occupations. But the mere fact of being employed as an Officer or Deputy is NOT a free pass under any circumstance. The idea that a public safety employee should be exempt from the law is distasteful to the general citizenry. As it should be to professional law enforcement as well. In my career, I've given warnings, issued citations and even arrested current and former LEOs.


Dealing with gratuities is a little more involved, however. In my opinion, most of the time it is just nice people trying to do a nice thing. My response at restaurants has always been to pass the gratuity onto the waiter or waitress. I've even gone to restaurants with my family, on my time, in plain clothes and been recognized as an officer. I still pass the gratuity on to the server. I always pay full price and the server gets a nice tip, everyone's happy! For this reason, I avoid entering fast food places because there is no server and I don't want to get into an argument with the manager who is, almost always, a nice person just trying to be nice. To me there is nothing more embarrassing than to be in a fast food line, with about twelve hungry people behind you, and hearing the clerk yell for a manager so I "can get a discount". When i was on patrol, I'd use the drive thru and sit in the lot eating in my car.


Coffee at convenience stores? My response was always to accept it graciously and then buy something before I left (magazine, candy bar, whatever).


My bottom line? We are the gate keepers. We are the calm in the storm. We are the ones who stem the tide of anarchy. We must set the example. Our profession makes us special, unique and highly regarded human beings but we are not exempt from law. We cannot be above the laws we are sworn to uphold. I hold myself to the same standard that I hold to all other LEOs.

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lol, Got stopped by the SO for speeding last night. I never said anything, but I think he recognised my name.  Verbal warning for doing 10 over.  Hope my luck doesn't run out.


 


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JIMROCKET!!