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Rangersmithsmaller_max50

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Posted almost 2 years ago

 

I still consider myself a fairly young officer, but 5 years of a heavy duty belt and jarring off-road patrol is starting to take its toll on my lower back.  Load bearing armor carriers are an approved option for our department, but the local area commander will not approve them no matter how I try to sell it.  Especially after this weekend, I'm thinking of going to my doctor, complaining of my back pain, and seeing if he will write me some type of letter that recommends a load bearing vest to get the weight off of my waist.  Has anyone out there accomplished this?  How did the doctor's letter get worded?  Thanks!


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Schultz3_max50

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External carriers are not approved for us in the city. They complain that they are too militaristic and intimidating. However, we were approved to wear suspenders to help get the weight off of our hips. Have you thought of trying them?

Just_passin__thru_max50

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Not enough info here but lemme take a stab at this.


1. Yes, a Worker's Comp physician can flat out prescribe a load bearing piece of gear if it will reverse lower back pain.


2. If you don't already do this, consider going to a BDU-type uniform and incorporate load bearing 'suspenders'. This would be the kind of suspenders the military uses.


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White_shirt_max50

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Will your agency allow web gear?

Profile1_max50

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 Apparently people in the SO I'm an explorer with are having the same problems. All of the PD's in the county have gone to this style vest/uniform: http://www.mtdemocrat.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Police-vests-1.jpg


Personally, I hate it. It looks too tactical for patrol. A vest option that looks good and saves your back is the tailored looking one, like this: http://homernews.com/images/021909/12954_512.jpg


 


For OHV work, though, I can't see why a 'tactical' type vest wouldn't be allowed.


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Rangersmithsmaller_max50

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Rate This | Posted almost 2 years ago

 

I've poured over our uniform handbook and there is nothing in it about suspenders.  Also, it's not just about the weight.  Part of the problem is even though I'm 6', I'm pretty thin.  I've moved as much of my gear to the front and sides as possible, but due to lack of real estate on my belt, there is still stuff right in the small of my back.


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Schultz3_max50

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I'm probably going to have disagreements with folks on this....but is there anything on your belt that you do not use? I no longer carry an asp or OC on my belt. I keep them in my car if headed to a dog call or for crowd control, but I have never used either of them since I got a taser. I also carry my keys in my pocket. I have plenty of room on my belt now. I used to carry a double cuff case in front to save from carrying two to cuff cases. Now I just carry one cuff case with spares in the car. If you are going to be using two sets of cuffs, you should have backup anyway.


My set up is: Strong side R to L, Gun, Hand cuffs: Weak side R to L, Double mag pouch, taser, radio, flashlight. There is nothing on my back and I have plenty of room. I also have not had an incident where I was not prepared or equipped to handle myself. I keep extra cuffs, spray, and asp in the car if needed.

Schultz3_max50

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They also make drop holsters, which would free up more space. I see many officers with drop holsters for their tasers.

Rangersmithsmaller_max50

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Routine patrol for me is remote area, back country, 4X4 access.  Backup is sometimes hours away.  I need to keep as much stuff with me as possible at all times.  With the addition of a taser within the next year, I'm not going to have any room left.


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Rate This | Posted almost 2 years ago

 

Couple of things to consider. . . .first is that many departments do not allow "alterations" to "their" uniform so the officer can try to do the suspender thing underneath the shirt (if that is possible), how about a back support (wrap), get a doctor's order for the suspenders or get a medical retirement.


Secondly, since much of the issue is the compression of the spine.  For about $100, try an inversion table to uncompress the spine.  You don't need to hang upside down, just slightly inverted.  You start off with 10 minutes and work up to about 30 minutes over about a month.  Believe it or not, it does work!  Saves altering the uniform.


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Schultz3_max50

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I am in a remote area as well. I'm not saying to ditch the gear altogether. Some stuff you just don't have to have on your belt at all times. I have stuff in my car and in my duty bag. Carrying 3 intermediate weapons (asp, spray, taser) was overkill. The taser is the only one I use. With new ones coming out that shoot three separate times, I do not see a use for the asp or spray except for crowd control or dog calls. If I go to one of those calls, I do have the spray and asp in my car.

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