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He's your Savior...but is He your Lord???

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Yes, there is a difference.


So, you've confessed your sins and asked Jesus Christ to save you.  That is fantastic!  But have you made Him your Lord?  The difference is this:


He saved you from hell.  You are going to Heaven.  That makes Him your Savior.  Does He rule your life?  Have you submitted all of your decisions and life-choices to Him?  Do you ask Him what HE wants from you or do you only tell Him what YOU want from Him?


He can be your Savior and you can still go to Heaven.  BUT the trip will be difficult and often without pure peace.  When you make Him your Lord, the trip may still be difficult at times, but you have a blessed assurance that He is behind it all and He has the perfect plan for you.


You owe Him your life.  That alone should be enough to make Him your Lord.  Think of it from a servant's point of view.  If a servant is purchased and released, then he is saved but beholding to no one.  He can do as he pleases.  Which includes finding his own shelter, food, finances, and protection.  He will struggle.  He may be nabbed by someone and held as a slave (not a servant).  He may be beaten, starved, and given the lowliest dwelling - open to the harsh cold and heat.  However, if the servant is purchased by a loving, merciful lord, he is taken care of, fed, sheltered, protected.  He may be a servant but he has no worries because he knows his lord is in control.  His lord takes care of him because he has the servant's well-being at heart.  He may have a 'servant's quarters' in which to live - his own little home.  A home that protects him from the elements.


We are the same.  Our lives were purchased by the most loving, caring, merciful Lord in all of time.  He will feed us, shelter us, protect us, provide for us - IF we submit to Him - IF we seek His will above all others'.  If we see him merely as a Savior - yes - He has bought our freedom.  But why not give your life to the Lord Who has promised to never leave you nor forsake you?

 

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 I'd argue that if Jesus is not Lord of your life, then you are not saved at all.


Jesus has made it very clear that he is looking for completely committed followers.


By making Jesus Lord  of your life, you are in complete submission to him in all things, in all areas of life. If Jesus is not Lord of your life, then who is? (Satan?)


Making Jesus Lord is a matter of putting faith into action. The hebrew word *shachah* and the greek word *proskyneo* are both translated as "worship". Both words literally mean to "bow down" or to "prostrate".


We must make Jesus our Lord and worship him, both are acts that involve our physical body as well as our spirit.


 


 


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Roman_116, you may want to soften your position a bit. I didn't suggest compromise, but soften.


People are on different journeys. The disciples were fisherguys, Zacchaeus was tax collecting and climbing trees, Martha and Mary were homemakers, Luke was a doctor, and on and on.


He understands everyone's journey. He has compassion on those who love Him, have fallen and who continue to trip.


He forgives.


He restores.


He reconciles.


He understands.


I believe that He indeed wants committed followers. That is a process of growing, maturing, mistaking, and continuing on.


But, you already knew that.


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Maybe to clarify what I was trying to say earlier. I will another scripture. Philippians 2:10-11 ESV "10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father


Whether in this life or the next, everyone will confess that Jesus is Lord. If yall want to study what it really means to be Lord, or what that title Lord really means in the bible, I encourage you to. I have. It should not be taken lightly.


Not everyone has to agree with me. That's fine. As you said, everyone is on a different journey. But truth is not relative. It doesn't change based on where you are in life. It's static. I want the truth, even if it hurts. If I'm wrong in my thinking, then pray for me. 


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I will never be perfect in this life and never have all areas of my life surrendered to Christ.   How one lives should be a good indication if they are saved and Jesus is Lord of their life or not but not always.   I think we will be surprised when we get to Heaven who is there and who is not. 


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Are you guys and gals under the impression that I am implying you need to be perfect to enter into salvation? Just wondering...


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Are you guys and gals under the impression that I am implying you need to be perfect to enter into salvation? Just wondering...


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No, sir. Not at all.


As an aside: I was 21 years old and totally frustrated. I figured if I lived a year of perfection, it would cancel out a year of non-perfection. But as you can see, I would have to be 41 years old before I broke even to 'earn' God's grace. No can do. One slip and it would add on another year. Quite the biblically inaccurate view.


I then learned the Good News of the gospel. Eph 2:8-9.



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My question for Romans_116 is if you have received a pentacostal spirit, it seems rather uncommon among Christians, even though they have accepted Christ as Lord and have been saved.

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Never heard of a pentecostal spirit. If you are wondering whether I speak in tongues, the answer is no. I have never spoke in tongues of angels, or other languages that I am unfamiliar with. That is not to say that I never will though. If I follow God who knows what will happen in the course of my life.


That's not to say that I haven't receieved the gift of the Holy Spirit. I would agree with you if you said that the biggest shortcoming of modern churches is failing to rely on the power of the Holy Spirit. Not all, but most.


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Acts 2:1-4.  And realize there are more than one form of speaking in tongues.

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 Yes, I'm aware.


1 Corinthians 12:28


"And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, and various kinds of tongues."


I'm also aware that prophecy should be desired over speaking in tongues. But, the Spirit gives to each according to his will


1 Corinthians 14:5, 39-40 


"Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be built up." "So, my brothers, earnestly desire to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues. But all things should be done decently and in order.


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Wow.  So - ok.  When I read this thread, it took me a minute.  It's amazing how we went from making sure He is not only the One Who saves us but also is our Lord to speaking in tongues.  Pretty cool.


I speak in tongues (as the Spirit gives utterance).  Now aside from the fact that being filled with the Spirit makes my life more tolerable, It is not required to enter into Heaven.  The Word says we must be saved, not that we must be speaking in tongues.  I also agree that it is not common among believers.  It is because there are different views/interpretation of scripture.  But since the main point is that Christ died for our sins, speaking in tongues is not something I feel churches should argue about - but they do.  It has always baffled me that the same people who believe in prophesying, teaching and preaching what God gives them, often do not believe that He can/will give them the gift of tongues.  If you believe part of It, you should believe all of It.


No - perfection is not attainable, but we are supposed to strive towards that goal everyday.  That is what it means to be Christ-like in everything we do.


King and Lord are totally different entities.  A king is a ruler and - yes - He is our King but I'm asking specifically if He is also Lord.  You don't owe a king anything, he just rules.  But you owe a lord something - whether it is for use of land, cattle, maiden, etc.  Therefore, the question is, since we do owe Him our lives, are we living that way?


I'll be honest, I have not always lived that way.  Yes, I repented of my sins, asked for forgiveness and invited Christ into my heart.  But I thought I could go and do what I want when I wanted as long as I wasn't sinning.  That is - I lived a Christian life but did not walk fully in His will.  That is why it is possible to be saved but not treat Him as Lord.


There are people in churches right now, people in my home church, who got saved 'to sit on a pew.'  They act like that is all they were saved for and that's all that matters.  They have never witnessed to anyone, ministered to another soul, prayed anyone through at the altar.  They are what I call the 'leeches' of church.  They come to church suck all they can out of service and go home until another scheduled time.  They have been saved, but that's as far as it goes.


Is it right?  No.  Just like stagnant water begins to stink, rot, house mosquito larvae, stagnant Christians become the same way and will have to either move foward or backward or die.

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I don't know why this got off topic about speaking in tongues. But I will say that speaking in tongues was a big part of the early church. Now a days, some churches look down on speaking in tongues, maybe due to misunderstanding, partly due to the misuse of them, and of course the "babbling" fake speaking in tongues. Speaking in tongues should be used for edification and for missionary purposes. Check  the book of 1 Corinthians, a lot of detail about speaking on tongues there. Let's not be afraid of God's gifts.


Back to the subject at hand, kurios or kyrios. Greek word used for Lord over 740 times in the New Testament, almost all referring to Jesus. It means : 1). he to whom a person or thing belongs, about which he has the power of deciding 2). the owner, the one who has contol of a person, the master 3). is a title of honour expressive of respect and reverance, with which servants greet their masters.


So, do you belong to Jesus? *John 13:13* "You call me "teacher" and "lord" and rightfully so, for that is what I am."


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Pardon my contribution,my post has been deleted.



Was it something I said? My comments were not directed towards you but towards the general view of speaking in tongues I have seen in some of the churches I attended. Dave, you know I respect your opinion and beliefs.


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 Bump thsi topic!! Thanks for posting this whitem! I needed to hear this. 


I know for the past 5+ years I have been trying to go full time with some agency. But I have been meet with so many rejection letters I can fill up a whole drawer in filing cabnet. When I first started applying Jesus was not my Lord, I did not give him all my life and let Him choose my path of life. I went on for 3-4 years doing my own thing on what I thought was what the Lord wanted me to do. I had been telling the Lord what i wanted to do, where I wanted to go, what department I want to work for or not work for. When I would get the rejection letter I would never pray about it and give myself to the Lord or ask Him for guidence. The last couple years I had decided to pray more and ask for guidence more. I do not know if law enforcement is what God is calling me to do or if its another field. But Jesus will be my Lord from now and forever. I will still apply because that's where I think He wants me to be. If not I will follow the Lord anyways. 


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 Bump thsi topic!! Thanks for posting this whitem! I needed to hear this. 


I know for the past 5+ years I have been trying to go full time with some agency. But I have been meet with so many rejection letters I can fill up a whole drawer in filing cabnet. When I first started applying Jesus was not my Lord, I did not give him all my life and let Him choose my path of life. I went on for 3-4 years doing my own thing on what I thought was what the Lord wanted me to do. I had been telling the Lord what i wanted to do, where I wanted to go, what department I want to work for or not work for. When I would get the rejection letter I would never pray about it and give myself to the Lord or ask Him for guidence. The last couple years I had decided to pray more and ask for guidence more. I do not know if law enforcement is what God is calling me to do or if its another field. But Jesus will be my Lord from now and forever. I will still apply because that's where I think He wants me to be. If not I will follow the Lord anyways. 



You're more than welcome my friend.  I have struggled with this quite often.  I am very head-strong, stubborn.  Sometimes, I have to hit rock bottom in order to realize that I have taken control out of the Lord's hands and tried to handle it on my own.  Kudos to you.  I hope it all works out for you.  I'll be praying!