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I just read a very interesting book about Muslims. One thing the author wrote about was the "honor killing", when a male kills a female in the family because she has damaged the family honor by becoming pregnant, or something along those lines.

The author was very concerned that this is happening not only in Muslim countries (which is bad enough) but also in countries where Muslims relocate and form communities. She was able to get the law enforcement in her country (Holland) to start keeping track of honor killings and they all were amazed to find out how many there are. (I suppose before they kept track, they were just being recorded as DV murders.)

Anyway, this got me to thinking: is this anything you all are experiencing? Does your agency keep track?

The issue in her country had been that it seemed politically incorrect to keep tract of motives for murder when it pointed to one particular minority group. Once they started paying attention, they realized they had a real problem on their hands.

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I havent heard of this in my state, not saying it could not happen, but any murder is taken serious no matter what type of MO.

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Oh, I am sure any murder is taken seriously!

My question is, have you experienced cases of this, and is anyone keeping track?

When Holland started keeping track, they did this as an experiment in 2 of their 25 districts. There were 11 murders in a very short time! Up until they kept track, the motivation hadn't "registered" as a phenomenon.

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that didnt come out right, what i was trying to say was that something like that would send flags and would be kept track of... when i was in investigations we swaped mo with all the other departments around the area, if seemed like it was not a local deal it went out by nicc

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There hasn't been any in NY that I know of, but it's a huge problem in Europe. A while ago there was an article in the NY Daily News about "honor murders" in England. There are over 100 a year over there. England and a few other European countries are slowly turning into third-world Muslim nations. It won't be long before it starts happening here due to the "liberalization" of America.

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im sure that it will visit the US, but wont last long... doc assisted suicide didnt take long to run its course.

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Do we have anyone from Canada here?

She indicated there is quite a large Muslim community in Canada that is continuing practices such as female genital mutilation; I would guess such a community would be amenable to "honor murders" as well.

Indeed, one would expect that either practice would be discovered and dealt with! But, in the case of female mutilation, they weren't in the habit of going to hospitals to deal with it in the first place, "at home", so it didn't appear on hospital "radar screens" as one would have assumed.

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You can find information on VAW in Canada at www.uwo.ca/violence/index.html. There are topics about the muslim population and this subject in Canada on this website.

In "World Report on Violence and Health" by the World Health Org. 2002, there is a description of Traditional notions of male honor that states "In many places notions of male honor and female chastity put women at risk. Ex. in parts of Eastern Mediterranean, a mans honor is often linked to the perceived sexual purtiy of the women in his family. ............In some societies the only way to cleanse the family honor is by killing the offending woman or girl. A study of female deaths in Alexandria, Egypt, found that 47% of the women were killed after being raped by a relative."
Another book : Researching Violence Against Women, by the World Health Org. mentions "the belief that it's more honorable to be a man than a woman as a problem that contributes to abuse."

The WHO has many websites and publications that you can request at www.who.int/gender/en. Another website given for information out of Washington, DC is www.path.org.


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Thanks, Sues.

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A good place to watch to keep track of honor killings around the world and other Muslim terrorist activities is www.jihadwatch.org They update multiple times daily. Another site that updates once daily is www.thereligionofpeace.com Both of these sites are useful in keeping abreast of world-wide terrorist activities.


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Thanks, ccso8462.

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My agency (Chicago, IL suburb) has not experienced this, but a nearby jurisdiction prevented one. That jurisdiction has a high Muslim population, and the call came out as a disturbance. The young lady ran to the neighbors stating the family wanted to kill her and lo and behold the family had indeed flown in someone from overseas (a relative?) to do so in return for the young woman's perceived indiscretion.

Our town also had a young Muslim woman's mother threaten to have the girl's non-Muslim boyfriend killed unless they got engaged and announced it in accordance with Muslim tradition.

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Several years ago we had a Muslim man that killed his wife and burned his house down when he found out she was going to divorce him. He left his daughters in the house and hid his boys in the bushes outside. The girls got out and he is on death row.

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But I thought it was the religion of peace!!

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Check out the websites ccso8462 listed above and you will have to meditate on just what it means to be "a religion of peace."

Peace for WHOM, I am wondering... not for everyone, that is fo' sho...