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After 2 1/2 semesters in Criminal Justice, awesome grades, awful stress and chaotic schedule changes, I gave up and I'm changing my major. After being bashed about my age, weight, being a woman etc by numerous LEO's on this site, who are probably right, my self confidence took a huge hit and I have been made aware that I simply won't make it. However, I'm not writing this as a pity party, I'm writing this post as a huge thank you to everyone who has encouraged me to keep going and for all the advice and friendship, I love you guys. If any of you would like to keep in contact, just leave me a message. It's kinda pointless for me to keep my account here on PL. Once again thank you all for the support  :) 

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After 2 1/2 semesters in Criminal Justice, awesome grades, awful stress and chaotic schedule changes, I gave up and I'm changing my major. After being bashed about my age, weight, being a woman etc by numerous LEO's on this site, who are probably right, my self confidence took a huge hit and I have been made aware that I simply won't make it. However, I'm not writing this as a pity party, I'm writing this post as a huge thank you to everyone who has encouraged me to keep going and for all the advice and friendship, I love you guys. If any of you would like to keep in contact, just leave me a message. It's kinda pointless for me to keep my account here on PL. Once again thank you all for the support  :) 



I don't recall ever seeing any posts "bashing" you on here, but best of luck in your future endeavors.

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After viewing your profile for the first time I do know your a woman however, did not view your age and weight on your profile which was quite minimal. I agree if a few comments changed your mind law enforcement is not your calling. Good luck.

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I am sorry to hear that you received those kinds of comments and although I don't recall seeing any of those posts, I do wish you the best of luck in whatever you do. 

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I don't recall specifically anything as described by the OP either, however, I wouldn't be surprised given certain context clues that she may have been the target (in forum or in photo comments) of our resident self-appointed BB patrol. Not that I think that would be a reason to change one's career choices--as Uncle Dennis says, she needs a thicker skin if she wants to be in LE. If posts on a forum are enough to dissuade you from your chosen vocation, then you're right, you really didn't want it in the first place.




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Churchill: “Madam, you are ugly. In the morning, I shall be sober.”

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 Excuse mz66.   Do not lay the blame on the "resident self-appointed BB patrol"  of which I am one.   We do not comment on weigh or if she would make a good LEO.  We are only concerned with the photos.  We try to keep this site professional and not looking like either Face Book or a police dating site.   If Amanda had a phote she has removed.  And for that I give her a lot of credit.   I think she will do great at what ever she decides to do. 


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Bump to LadyG. We also look for trolls, too.


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In four years here, I've never seen the bashing you describe, Amanda.  That's what Mods are for.  Anyway -


Self-elected Resident BB Patrol, Self-Elected Political Conscience, Self-Elected Internal Affairs Officer, Self-Elected Debate Monitor, Self-Elected Non-Sworn Community Relations Officer, Self-Elected La Dee Dah - .


Sounds like the Link to me.


Or any community!  And a WHOLE lot more!  That means LEO expertise and heart! 


Anyway, trashing your dream over a petty grievance doesn't show much emotional stamina.  Something all good cops show. Good thing is...you can develop emotional stamina, Amanda.  Remember, it helps to look the role you want in life. So start think, act (and post pix) like the professional you want to be.


Annnd if all you've done is withdraw from a college Criminal Justice program, take heart. Most LEOs here will tell you to choose another route into law enforcement anyway.  Besides, those classes are always available.


Or, you can parlay your new major into some exciting aspect of law enforcement that you will find is your true dream.


 

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Amanda, my degree is in psyc. not CJ and I've been a LEO for 27 yrs !!! Girl, I'm of the age where "nice" girls got married out of HS or if they went to college were either nurses or teachers. My own Dad (whom I ADORED) told me " No daughter of mine is going to carry a gun for a living" . Guess what, he was VERY proud of me and my job before he died. So, what I'm getting at is this, don't let ANYONE tell you what you can and can't do !!!


NOW, PUT YOU BIG GIRL PANTIES BACK ON AND SHOW THE NAY SAYERS WHAT YOU CAN DO !!!


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I'm pretty sure I specifically said that the blame for any career-altering decisions lays squarely with the OP.


Also, it wasn't my intent to disparage any particular person by my comments about the BB patrol, but I will say that from some of them I've seen a degree of overzealousness that suggests they are way too easily offended and that in their zeal to wag fingers they end up looking like trolls themselves. That is my opinion and I'm entitled to it. There've been whole topics dedicated to this before and they generally get removed as they tend to stoke passions in the membership that we don't want on continuous display.




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Happily, the opinions of men matter little in the touchy subject of limiting the nature of seductive photography.  Anyway, Gary Olman's character in Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy has quite an underplayed element of masculine sexuality so we think you should change avatars, mz66.


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Speak for yourself Marly ! I LIKE his sexy avatar ! Now, everyone behave and lets not hijack this thread. Marly, if you like , we can start a new thread about his avatar .


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I prefer the original movie (Alec Guinness portraying Mr. Smiley)--although I haven't seen the more recent film. Thanks for reminding me--I'll have to check that out.


P.S. If my opinion really didn't matter, it wouldn't even require comment, now would it? 


And yes, sorry (thanks MamaCat), let's get back on topic:


What Cat_D said sounds like your best bet for an adopted attitude, if that's what you require. If you still want to be LE, buck up and bear it. If not, don't blame others for your change of heart.




Bessie Braddock: “Sir, you are drunk.”
Churchill: “Madam, you are ugly. In the morning, I shall be sober.”

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Amanda, age weight and being a female should not affect your desire to be an LEO, regardless of what ANYONE says! I've known small females that have handled themselves very well when it came time to do so. I say get thick skinned (which you will need as an officer anyway) and go for it, if thats what you want.


In the event you elect to not pursue the Law Enforcement Career, you don't have to leave PL. There's a ton of folks here (in good standing) that are not LEO's.


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please weight is overrated...if i quit just because someone said something to me about it ida never made it to being a leo and im over the 300 mark. im working on bringing it back to where i was a few years ago at 220. but that is for me nobody else.

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BUMP to Cat_D. Hang tough girl, stuff happens and you are the master of your life, get back here and fight for your goals and dreams. Don't let the negative opinions of others influence your life and choices you can do anything you set your mind too. If you are unsatisfied with something about yourself or the path you are on then change it for yourself not for others. Best of Luck....

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 Amanda you do need to hang tough. Listen to Mama Cat. She is a very wise lady:-) 


I would like to say that Amanda never did have any photos that were suggestive. I could also point out that although you may see us as the BB patrol and overzealous we stand behind our views. MZ66 just like YOU do with your politics.


Amanda I hope you don't leave. There are many enthusiasts on here. Good luck:-) 

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Don't think you should give up because of some stupid comments. But  Whatever you do I wish you the best.

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Amanda, it looks like you're getting a lot of sound advice here. If you have the drive for LE, you shouldn't let naysayers' opinions weigh that much on your decision to continue (or not).


You are quite right, KCecala. I think I was less than clear when I said I wasn't singling anyone out. I wasn't trying to suggest that the whole lot of you were overzealous, but I can see how what I said could be interpreted that way. What I should've said was "I'm not naming any names..."--because, just as with my politics, I stand by my opinion that there are some folks who enjoy it a bit too much and step over the line.


 




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Churchill: “Madam, you are ugly. In the morning, I shall be sober.”

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lol

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lol



Replying to identify the coward before he deletes his profile.


 




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Churchill: “Madam, you are ugly. In the morning, I shall be sober.”

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 No no, it's not at all about photos. I have only ever posted photos of my face. The bashing happened via messages with friends, not in the forums. I do have the drive, it's what I have always wanted to do, however, one can only hear "you're too fat for this" or "women just don't make it" so many times before you start to believe it. Maybe ya'll are right, if a simple bashing can change my mind, then I just won't cut it.  I didn't write this as anything but a thank you to those who have and are still encouraging me to move forward. 

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Amanda, my degree is in psyc. not CJ and I've been a LEO for 27 yrs !!! Girl, I'm of the age where "nice" girls got married out of HS or if they went to college were either nurses or teachers. My own Dad (whom I ADORED) told me " No daughter of mine is going to carry a gun for a living" . Guess what, he was VERY proud of me and my job before he died. So, what I'm getting at is this, don't let ANYONE tell you what you can and can't do !!!


NOW, PUT YOU BIG GIRL PANTIES BACK ON AND SHOW THE NAY SAYERS WHAT YOU CAN DO !!!



Bump all, Amanda follow your dreams, some good advice and forget the nay sayers!


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mz66 says ...



tmrogers says ...



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Replying to identify the coward before he deletes his profile.


 



Or gets banned.....  just sayin'


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Amanda, 


If this is truely what you've always wanted to do, then just do it!  I am not a thin woman, never have been.  I made it through the academy and all successive training classes paired up with guys bigger than me and held my own.  I will not back down and you shouldn't either.  Learn to use what you have and use it well!  


As far as all the other supposing and guessing and assuming going on with what has made you change your mind... well, ASSuming is defined in the first three letters of that word.  


Mama cat gave you some great advice, step in 'em and wear them like a big girl.  We don't want you to leave PL.  Think about your decision long and hard.  Then what ever you decide it will be your decision, I just hope it's not based on the negative comments you received from jealous people!


Best to you in whatever you decide!


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 Amanda,


You are getting some very sound advice here.  I believe from the responses you're seeing here that you have a lot of support from some good people on this site.  If this is something that you truly want to do, then don't let someone change your mind for you because they're a bunch of idiots or goofballs that don't know that women (irregardless of size) also make great cops.  I have worked with many women in this field and there have been none that I wouldn't go through a darkened door with at any time.  If this profession is really something that you want to be involved in, then just tell the "friends"  that did the bashing to kiss your @## and just show them how wrong they are.  Just like others are telling you here, even if you decide that this profession is not for you, it doesn't mean that you have to leave PL.  There are plenty of those on here that are supporters and not LEO's.  Whatever you decide to do, you will still have real friends and supporters on this site.  Best of luck to you.


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Amanda, You can do anything you want to do if you set your mind to it. We hired a female Officer the first in several years and she is not only 5'5" tall but tough as nails. She went to college and played basketball and track and is getting ready to defend her Master thesis. I depend on her to have my back and I have hers.


I also have trained several female Officers at the Academy and they kicked hinney. Yes it can be harder in the LEO world for a female Officer but they also have their advantages. They can talk down a distraught person better than a man as they usually have more empathy. The fine folks on here can add to the list but that is another topic. 


Good luck in what ever you decide, only you can choose what you want and when you want it.    


Bad stuff happens to good people, handle it and overcome.
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Let go and let GOD,
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 Thank you guys so much!

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Amanda, if this is somthing you really want the GO FOR IT. Dont let what others say get to you. Honey you have to have thick skin in this line of work. I say stay with it, if its somthing you really really want. Unleash the inner monster and accomplish your goal. Good luck

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Having just read all of the comments as well as Amanda's original post for the first time...... I have this to say.  Without any knowledge of the total circumstances, a lot (and I mean A LOT) of speculation was given as to possible reasons why Amanda pulled the plug on her degree path.  We need to be a little more careful as to making comments before hearing the whole story from the mouth or posts of the OP.


Now to Amanda, I have this to say.  No, I am not a female and did not have any weight issues unless you call 6 ft tall and 165 in the academy (self sponsored btw) a weight issue.  That said, I also had many people over the course of 15 plus years spout off their uninformed opinions as to why they thought I had not been hired to that end and as to why I wouldn't be hired, ever..... in their opinion.  If I had a dollar for every such conversation that I have had like this, I could take a pretty good vacation.  That said, I spent the better part of 4 years attempting to get hired on by an agency who would send me through an academy.  I proceeded to attend and graduate from an academy on my own dime.  Previous to attending the academy, I was told by a background investigator from the agency, that I was too thin and lightweight and that my grades in high school were questionable despite the fact that I had raised my GPA in college and that he did not think I had what it would take to graduate from his department's academy physically or academically.  I had since found out that the agency had lowered its minimum academic standard from 80% to 70% while my academy maintained the 80% standard.  The agency academy was on a generally flat location while my academy was on the side of a mountain for all intents and purposes.  I graduated in the 86% range academically..... that's 16 percent higher scores than the bottom feeder at the agency academy..... You tell me, who had the tougher academy.  I graduated with the hopes that I would have been hired while still attending or shortly thereafter.  That was not to be and here came all of the self proclaimed experts.  In September 2001, I finally was hired to a non-sworn position that eventually led to the promotion to the sworn police officer position I was seeking all these years two years later.


What is the point I am trying to make?  DO NOT LET THE SELF PROCLAIMED EXPERTS OR ANYONE ELSE TELL YOU ANYTHING THAT TAKES YOU OFF OF THE CAREER PATH THAT YOU HAD CHOSEN..... IF ANY OF THESE PEOPLE AT ANY TIME CALLED YOU A FRIEND...... THEY WERE NOT YOUR FRIEND.


IF YOU WANT A CAREER IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, THEN DO WHAT IT TAKES TO ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL AND MAKE IT HAPPEN.  AT LEAST MAKE A SOLID EFFORT AS THERE IS NO DISGRACE IN TRYING AND FAILING HAVING MADE EVERY EFFORT AND GIVING IT YOUR BEST SHOT.  THERE IS DISGRACE IN FAILING TO TRY.  TRUST ME WHEN I SAY THAT YOU WILL BE FOREVER KICKING YOURSELF IN THE FLESHY HINDQUARTERS   (NO DISRESPECT INTENDED)   FOR GIVING UP AND NOT TRYING.


I LOOK TO THE DAYS WHEN I CAN TELL THE I-D-I-O-T NAYSAYERS THAT THEY HAD NO CLUE WHAT THEY HAD BEEN TALKING ABOUT AND THAT LIST INCLUDES SOME PEOPLE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THEIR CAPACITY AS BACKGROUND INVESTIGATORS.  DO NOT LET ANYONE TELL YOU THAT YOU CAN'T DO SOMETHING UNTIL YOU HAVE PROVEN TO YOURSELF THAT YOU CAN'T DO IT.


NOW AMANDA..... IF YOU REALLY WANT THIS........ GET UP OFF THE MAT AND MAKE IT HAPPEN.

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