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2012-09-24_22-41-56_408_max50

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Posted about 2 years ago

 

As we all know, Smoking is bad for you. Very bad.


Smoking is banned in our patrol cars by most departments, and you should never smoke in public, especially where children might see you. Smoking is also not allowed in any of our stations or facilities causing you to have to go :"out back" for a quick smoke, or behind a buisness to hide while you "burn one".


Generally this puts you in a bad, not so well lighted area, outside of your cruizer in a not so very defensive posture.


I have been using an electronic Cigarette for about a year now. When using it, I can completly stop smoking regular cigs with no withdrawl effects. I have my favorite company I use, but I'm not plugging them here. I can use it in my vehicle without it stinking anything up like smoke. I have one that closely resembles a pen, and could never be mistaken by the public as a cigarette.


Have any of you tried these? If you have, how was your experience? I cna smoke in my house with it, I can smoke in my office with it, and I can use it in my vehicle without the danger of someone calling in a complaint that they saw me smoking in my vehicle.


I even have one that charges off of USB power, while I use it. I can plug it directly into the USB port on my MDT, or the USB port on the side of the Rearview Mirror Dash Cam.


If you are interested in trying the one I have found to be the best I can send you a message with the info. I'm not affiliated with the company at all, but I like their stuff.


I do want to warn you though NOT to get the ones from the Kiosks at the mall. They are horribly overpriced, and the products are very cheap and do not work as advertised. You will seriously regret your purchase. I know, that's where I got my first one, which cost me over $100, and was replaced within 2 weeks.


The only trouble I ever had with using mine was at an NCO acadamy school in the Army. They could not wrap their heads around the fact that it only creates water vapor, and not any smoke. They made me go down to the smoking area outside along with the regular smokers. Other than that, no problems anywhere else.


What are your opinions?


 


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Rate This | Posted about 2 years ago

 

 I am curious does it have nicotine? I have seen these on the t.v. I quit smoking many years ago with the patch. It was very difficult but the best thing I have ever done. I think these are a great idea. One more step to get people to quit smoking.

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Rate This | Posted about 2 years ago

 

 The E-liquid (The stuff you put in it) that I use right now has 18mg of nicotine, about the same as a Marlboro Red. Normally they dont go above 24, but there are some very high nicotine versions, but I have not tried them. 


You can use the different liquids to step down your nicotine slowly, all the way to 0


I tried the patch a few years ago and it made me so nausous that I could not work. The first time I had one on I had to roll back to the station, take it off, and law down for a bit. I thought I was going to vomit. That was the lowest nicotine level there was.


I tried the welbutrin as well, which worked pretty good, but once I got off it, I went right back. The only thing that has worked for me was dipping, but I am not keen on the idea of carrying around a bottle full of spit everywhere, and I HATE seeing LEOs interact with the public with a dip in. It's very unprofessional.


So Far the e-cig is the best thing I have used for stopping smoking.


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 I stumbled on Scjohnk's post doing some research as to whether law enforcement has been made aware of the more advanced PVs (electronic cigarettes).  Forgive me if I stray a bit but I'm building to a point.  


I did very little research and bought a well reviewed starter kit (not from a mall kiosk) and returned it within a week.  Part of the problem is that I am a major dork when it comes to electronics and continued researching after I bought my kit.  I'm an avionics technician on F-16s for the U.S. Air Force so it's kind of in my nature but I digress.  I graduated to a MUCH better kit that I really liked but I still wanted "more".  I discovered VV (variable voltage) devices and suplemented my second kit with a Provari which closely resembles a high end flashlight and even uses the same type batteries.  It allows the user to dial in their "sweet spot" for vapor production and TH (throat hit).  Now on to the point of this post.  Has law enforcement been briefed on these higher end devices that do not resemble a cigarette in the least?  I'm not so much concerned about my second kit because it more closely resembles a cigarette (ok, maybe a cigar) but my big VV device worries me a bit.  I'd hate to get pulled over and second-guessed as to what it is and what I'm dong with it.  

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 So I'm assuming that you are aware of the Air Force's banning of PVs? Within the last 6 months or so they have passed regulation banning their use by all airmen. I can only assume this is due to their extreme ignorance of the research behind the devices, and their health benefits over cigarette use. Now, I'm not saying that E-cigs are good for you, but they are not nearly as harmful as real cigs.


I have a fairly robust kit, but it's not variable voltage. I know folks who piece their own systems together from different companies, matching this atty with that battery etc... but I have not gotten that deeply into it. if I were to do more research, perhaps, but I'm happy with the VP and TH of mine.


Most of our LEOs know wher the e-cigs are primarily becasue I walk around with one most of the time. My primary one is about the size of a medium cigar and is entirely chrome. I suppose, if I had never seen one before, It could be mistaken as drug paraphernalia at first glance. As for the much larger PVs that resemble flashlights, it would probaably be in your best interst to not step out of your vehicle with it in your hand. You should never have ANYTHING in your hands when stepping out of your vehicle, when requested to do so by an LEO. That's just common sense. 


If you are worried about a Terry Stop and Frick scenario, I would not be worried. The vast majority of LEOs are pretty common sense oriented folks who live in the real world. They ask you what it is, you tell them. it's that simple. Now, there are some very large PVs that are used for vaping marijuana. You might want to stay clear of these, since they are a completly different product and catagory. We know what these are, and will certainly ruin the rest of yuor day, if you have one with you.


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Rate This | Posted about 2 years ago

 

No, I can't say that I would even point someone to e-cigs. Seems to be kinda redundant. I had a couple of students I saw using them. Even they seemed to be un-entertained by them.


Why pay money for this kind of thing? Go buy a ticket to a ballgame, get a tray of garlic fries and treat yourself to a $10 6-ounce beer. Now THAT's a waste of cash.... the $10 brew I mean.


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Rate This | Posted about 2 years ago

 

For those in LE, be aware that e-cigarettes can be used with synthetic cannaboids, not the plant material , but the actual cannaboid, which may still be legal in some states or at least some of 600 or so variants.  Suspect that it could be yused with 'bath salts' and their ilk as well.

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Rate This | Posted about 2 years ago

 

 the kind I'm talking about heats a liquid to create the vapor. I have not seen liquid spice, but I'm sure someone has thought of it. Most of the bath salt users I've encountered are snorting the stuff. Also have not seena liquid version. 


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