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Posted 10 months ago
Hello all I'm looking for an honest opinion on this subject I understand its been asked to death but i'm honestly getting close to my 12 month to ets date and need to figure out what to do. I joined the military in 2011 for a 3 year contract after being layed off my auto tech job, it seemed like the best idea because I wanted to get back into school. Right now im deployed as a a cav scout, and squeezing in as much online courses as possible. I want to return to new jersey and become an officer. My credit is far from the best of them and i will be using this money to pay off everything, ive gotten 2 speeding tickets since i reached my duty station but before that i havent seen a ticket since i was 22(i am now 27). I am aiming for ft bragg when we get back to be sent to airborne, air assault, and ranger school if i do reenlist. I am physically fit enough to complete these schools and hoping it will help my stand out on an application(hopefully). if i leave next year i will have 1 deployment under my belt, a secret clearance,high pt score, i will be spc promotable to sgt (right now i am a pfc) and some online college courses. What are my honest chances to apply for a dept job 12 months before i ets at this point?
if my chances arent good my second plan would be to reenlist for several more years (most likely 2 or 3 more because the possible 32 yr old cutoff), obtain those 3 schools i listed above as well as 60 college credits. Im hoping if i do reach the max age i can get a waiver due to my history correct me if im wrong.I am willing to pay out of pocket for the academy if i have to if it will increase my chances. As cheesy as this may sound I do want to move to a possible swat or DEA special agent position. Im worried that if i walk this path i completely shut the door to the military so im lookin for honest advice with people with expierience and insight to make the right choice , Also an actual nj officer insight would be a plus.
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| Posted 10 months ago
It looks like you have several things working in your favor with a couple of "dings" that are more than likely, not deal busters with most of the departments out there. You say you have 12 months left in your enlistment. . . .now is the time to start working on trying to find information and sending out applications to these different departments. Not quite sure how you would get to these departments to take the different tests (i.e. written, physical agility, background workups and the like) but it can take up to a year and longer in some departments. If you find a department that has vacancies (with this economy that may be a bit difficult), talk with a recruiter to see if some of the testing can either be done at your base. . . .or if the military will allow you time off (so to speak) to take these tests. . .if you happen to be close.
About the different departments. . . .federal agencies are going to (usually) require a college degree of some sort. There for a while, a degree in accouting was what many agencies were actually looking for because they figured you would be able to "follow the money" on the white collar crimes. What they are looking for now? Don't know. . . .been away from it too long. A seccond language is also helpful. . . .usually spanish. As for the SWAT thing. . . .you will have to look in the larger departments for that as smaller departments don't have the money. Good luck and stay safe!
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| Posted 10 months ago
I'm at Fort Bragg now, so you can hit me up when you get here, or before. Your questions are very valid and well laid out, so I'll start from the beginning.
Firt of all, Scouts Out!!!!! If you ain't Cav, you aint Chit!!!!
ok...... Are you on assignment to Bragg yet? If not start looking for allocations on AKO, and contact your branch manager to see what is available.
The speeding tickets will become less important with time. Most importantly, Slow your butt down. Nothing that important to get to in a hurry. Better to be late for PT and get smoked than to be dead on the side of the road.
Bragg will get you Airborne easy. Ranger takes some work, but we have pre-ranger right here on bragg to get you ready. Air Assault they could care less about. Pathfinder is more readily availible as we have MTTs come here every now and then to teach a class right here on post.
If it is your goal to do SWAT and/or DEA type work I recommend the following path:
Focus on your education. Knock out SSD level 1 quickly so once you are eligible for WLC you can get in with no issues. Starting October 1st you cang go to WLC without it.
Keep charging hard and earn your promotion to Sergeant. If it is availible, try to do Airborne and Ranger as a SPC.
The OPTEMPO on Bragg is very high so you will have to be dedicated to complete your Civ Education, but you can do it if you focus.
Once you make Sergeant, you should have completed your year stabilization required after completing Ranger school
Now it's time to hang up the spurs, and Reclass to Military Police.
Work it into a reenlistment for reclassification along with stabilization on Fort Bragg
Try for an assignment to the 16th MP BDE, and NOT 82nd ABN DIV
Once you are in the 16th, and you have maintained your PT around the 300 level wait for the SRT (Army SWAT team) to have tryouts. As long as you can shoot well, have good interpersonal communication skills, and an excellent APFT score, you will probably make the cut.
Once in SRT, you will qualify for MANY LEO specific schools, including SRT, SRT Sniper, PST and other fun schools.
Youshould have 60 Credit Hours by now.
After you get your fill of the High Speed life in SRT, and you grow a bit tired of being an operator, drop your CID packet.
as an MP you only need 60 Credit hours for CID, compared to 120 for Non MPs
Drop your CID Packet as soon as you pin SSG, or earlier.
Once in CID you will get CID training and be a credentialed US Special Agent. CID Agents also qualify for training at the FBI acadamy at Quantico.
Now, you have MANY doors open for you, in the specialized areas you are interested in, fully qualified andtrained all on the Army's dollar :-)
As for your credit. Fix it, Your credit is one indicator of your personal values and many departments, and security clearance investigators will look at it that way.
Any Questions? I see there are none. Carry on Trooper!!!!
In a world where there are Sheep and Wolves,
I am NOT a hero