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 I am trying to decide which is the best branch for me to join when I complete school. I am currently a student and will be enlisting as soon as I graduate with my Bachelors in Criminal Justice Administration. My hope is to one day become an investigor for a Federal agency, however I have not yet decided if I want to go career in the Military. At this point I am just trying to get as much information as I can on which branch will give me the best/most expierence and training. Any and all information is appreciated.

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I believe with this topic you're going to get all kinds of opinions (since a lot of LEO's are prior military).  I don't think that any one branch will get you farther than the other.  Just having the military experience is a plus for you, but no one branch is guaranteed to give you better experience than any of the others.  I was Air Force, my son is Army, my daughter was Navy and my nephew is a Marine,   I don't know about the Coast Guard since no of my family or friends were involved with them.  Although I am sure with the Coast Guard there would be plenty of drug interdiction experience for you.  So long story short, you pick the branch that you like best and that will give you the best educational experience.


Best of luck to you.

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I served as an MP for 22 years both enlisted and Commissioned Officer and I'm biased regarding Army. Truth be known a lot has changed since my retirement in 2006. Even prior to that the Army MP mission changed from traditional garrison white glove duties to a combat suport mission, which means that they conduct a lot of Battlefield Circulation Control and EPW ops and rear area security on the battlefield, we were often referred to as Super Grunts with a badge.

As was said the best thing to do is shop and talk to all of the recruiters because the branches each have their specialty and you need to tailor your search to the branch that will give you the best deal and or the best training that suits the needs that you are fulfilling for your own goals. Go with who gives you the best deal and get it in writing on your contract, but also get informed and do your homework, so that you can be savy about the programs that you qualify for. If you haven't already, the first thing you will need to do is take the ASVAB,(Armed forces Service Vocational Apptitude Battery) this will determine where your skills are best suited for military service.

In all fairness if you are looking for a more active LE role, then the Coast Guard does offer a more tailored training that is mirrored to civilian LE. Each branch has their perks but the perks and the training must suit YOUR GOALS and once your in then remain in the service and get your retirement whether it's Active or Reserve Component; because you will need to get qualified for a pension and that is 20 good years AC or RC. AC you can collect at the end of the 20 years and RC you will have wait till your 60 YOA to collect a retirement pension, but at least you collect. Good luck in your pursuit and graduate...

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The best thing to do is enlist US Army Infantry. It's absolutely THE BEST!!! Not that my 20 years in that field has anything to do with my recommendation. (lol)


Actually, I have to agree with both Spectre3 and csiguy.  Each branch has their own unique qualities, and all are different. Treehugger may be right too, as far as the Coast Guard. This is a decision you and only you can make. Do the research with the Recruiters (as suggested) and make a your decision based on that research. Ask a TON of questions (training, education, benefits, etc).


csiguy, I'm thinking even more has changed since my retirement in 1998   :)


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Prepare for some serious bias.....


Army, Absolutly, hands down. OK here's the deal...


You are Graduating from College with a BA in CJ correct?


So....The natural course of action for you would be for you to join the Army, as an MP. You will automaticly be an E-4 (SPC) because of your degree. Then you spend 2 years learning your job. We are also in the process of creating a specific MOS for strictly K-9,  MOS 31K. If you are interested in that area of policing.


So, the breakdown for the Army is:

MOS 31B (Military Police), Law and order, Internment and resettlement, Battlefield Circulation Control, Maneuver and Mobility Support, POlice Intelligence Operations, Worldwide Deployable, and stationed at Every Army Instillation World Wide.


MOS 31C( Corrections Specialist) Corrections at all Army confinment facilities inclusing Manheim Germany, Fort Leavenworth, and all the other smaller Regional Confinment facilities. Also Deploy with Brigade Combat Teams and smaller elements to provide support for Enemy Prisoner of War internment, and Detainee Ops.)


MOS 31D( Criminal Investigator CID), This MOS is Not availible to new recruits, you must complete 2 years of active service and be a Specialist (E-4) through Staff Sergeant(E-6). Requirements for MPs wanting to become CID Special Agents are lowered to 2 years of College. Requirement for ALL other MOS to become a CID Special Agent is 4 Years of College.


MOS31K(Military Working Dog Handler), this covers Explosive Detection, Narcotic Detection, patrol dog handlers. Mine dogs and their handlers will no longer be Engineers, but MPs) This MOS is so now, that it has not even officially began yet. Getting in at the ground level will be paramount. If you are at all interested in K-9 talk to your recruiter TODAY.


I will hit my 21st year as an Active Duty MP in 2 weeks. I would not, could not, have worked any other MOS in the Army.


If you are expecting cutting edge Police Training for Law and Order, you will not normally get it as an MP. You will get training, but the majority of it will be on Infantry, Scout, and Engineer type tasks. What you actually do, is highly dependant of where you get stationed.


MPs do everything from jumping out of airplanes to serving high risk warrants as part of a Special Reaction Team (our version of SWAT). You will find us in every corner of the world from the dirtiest stankhole, to the manicured beaches of Hawaii and Florida.


As to which is prefered by Police Departments activly hiring, it would depend greatly on the Department.


An MP can be a great asset to a Police Department. We already have the basics down and some of us are already specialised in fields of Investigations, traffic management and accident investigation, K-9, SWAT, Counter drug Operations, Dare Instructor, School Resource Officer,and we all have tactical knowledge and weapons training as a bonus. The down fall is that we have to Re-Learn how to do things the way your Department wants them done, not necessarily the way we do them in the MP Corps. Also, if you have developed any bad habits, they are more difficult to break.


Some Departments prefer to hire Infantry. They are generally in good shape, disciplined, and tacticly knowledgeable. They have the same, if not more, advanced weapons training than your average MP. Infantry NCOs are some of the best in the Army. Highly Intelligent, Resourceful, Loyal, Trustworthy, Dependable, and Very Well Trained as both a follower, and a leader.


You can also, join the Marine Corps. The problem there is that you have really no choice or say about what job you will end up with, unless this has changed recently. The MArine Corps will not make you an E-4 just because you have a degree. You will absolutly get some of the best training the US has to offer in Infantry tasks. You WILL be physically fit. You however, cannot join the Marines to become an MP. Marine Corps MPs are hand selected from within their ranks of qualified Marines, and their selection criterea is tough.


The Coast Guard is probably the most underrated Service, and I don't know why. They kick ass. You will absolutly gain some very specific knowledge, experience, training, and certifications that are highly sought after by Police Depts.


I Do not recommend the Security Police branch of the Air Force. They are now known as SF, Security Forces. Although they do get good training, they are much more limited in their scope than the Army is, and are more often than not, walking flight lines, fence lines, and working more of the Security piece than the Police piece. Air Force members do however, enjoy a better working environment, better quality of life, and shorter deployment.


I also do not recommed the Navy, unless you love the West Coast. You will rarely see anything but East Coast, and the South in the Army, but the Navy owns the West Coast. I don't know much about Naval Law Enforcement (The Shore Patrol), but I have known some folks who have worked with them  and they were not impressed. NCIS is good, but nothing like you see on TV.


Well, that pretty much my opinion with as little bias as I could muster. Best of luck, whichever you choose.......Go Army


 


 


 


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The best thing to do is enlist US Army Infantry. It's absolutely THE BEST!!! Not that my 20 years in that field has anything to do with my recommendation. (lol)


Actually, I have to agree with both Spectre3 and csiguy.  Each branch has their own unique qualities, and all are different. Treehugger may be right too, as far as the Coast Guard. This is a decision you and only you can make. Do the research with the Recruiters (as suggested) and make a your decision based on that research. Ask a TON of questions (training, education, benefits, etc).


csiguy, I'm thinking even more has changed since my retirement in 1998   :)


I think it changes every year. This is a new Army now and I'm starting to feel like a dino sometimes. My step son is a blue cord, Benning bread and he is telling me all of the things that he is experiencing and I'm feeling old. We both might be ready for a bar stool at the old soldiers home!

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The best thing to do is enlist US Army Infantry. It's absolutely THE BEST!!! Not that my 20 years in that field has anything to do with my recommendation. (lol)


Actually, I have to agree with both Spectre3 and csiguy.  Each branch has their own unique qualities, and all are different. Treehugger may be right too, as far as the Coast Guard. This is a decision you and only you can make. Do the research with the Recruiters (as suggested) and make a your decision based on that research. Ask a TON of questions (training, education, benefits, etc).


csiguy, I'm thinking even more has changed since my retirement in 1998   :)


I think it changes every year. This is a new Army now and I'm starting to feel like a dino sometimes. My step son is a blue cord, Benning bread and he is telling me all of the things that he is experiencing and I'm feeling old. We both might be ready for a bar stool at the old soldiers home!

Went through Benning about 5 years ago (on a motorcycle trip). Harmony Church is leveled and Kelly Hill was getting all new barracks! Same thing with my Reception Station and Basics Barracks at Ft Knox - GONE!


Already got my bar stool at the soldier's home. There's an open one next to it for ya (roflmao)


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 Thanks everyone, so much! 


I will be talking to some recruiters and learning some more about offers and specialties, but I did get a lot of great info here and learned a lot.


Thanks again. 

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I almost feel disloyal to the US Navy in which I served for 7 yrs but I have to say that the US Army MP's are probably the closest to the normal LE you find as a civilian. The Navy's MA rating was just coming into being at the end of my career and it sounded pretty good but I was not allowed to apply for that rating as the one I was in was critical and took precedence.

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TROLLBOY!!!!!!!!!!


HOW YOU DOING TOOLBOX!! WHAT U DOING ON HERE SO LATE?!?!?!?!


MOM GOT THE A/C OFF IN THE BASEMENT SO U HAVING TROUBLE SLEEPING I ASSUME??

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