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Poll: WHY???
Poll: Is This Right ?
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Posted 10 months ago This past Thursday I noticed an article buried in the second section of my local daily newspaper.Finaly,something that should bring ALL Americans together.Our U.S. Olympic Committee ,in their infinate ignorance has contracted with China,would you believe,to make all the uniforms for all our Olympic athletes.This contract is worth a fortune.These,as pictured,in paper,are beautiful sets of clothing,designed by Ralph Lauren.Members of congress and Senate,of every race,creed,religion,political party are questioning the sanity and patriotism of this Olympic committee and are quite livid and vocal in their opinion.Committee gave no reason whatsoever how they came to this decision,but the paper did state that many textile employees of our own country are currently unemployeed. |
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| Posted 10 months ago I heard this too and thought it was an outrage. Disgusting! |
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| Posted 10 months ago Totally pathetic!!!!!!! The committee should definately re-think their game plan! Even the Athletes should voice their opinion, too!!! |
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| Posted 10 months ago It's wong! Raplh Lauren should be hog-tied for agreeing to the deal. Not only that - Chinese clothing manufacturers shamelessly cut corners on seam allowance. I hope none of the athletes bend over too far. Their pants will split! Chinese manufacturing is criminally cheap. I've bought athletic shoes made in China to discover they are lined with cardboard. Notebook paper is so thin the holes break out after turning three times. |
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| Posted 10 months ago I saw this on the news. What a slap in the face to American workers. But I am sure the bottom line was money. So much of our goods are made over seas now I guess they thought no one would notice. YaYa Sister |
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| Posted 10 months ago Since US Oolympic athletes are not government funded, the olympic commitrtee elected to get cheap uniforms that are cheaply fabricated in China. Ralph Lauren had a contract with the US olympic committee that runs until 2020. there is a US company that said they could make new uniforms and have them in time for the summer olympics (this same company is also in negotiations for the Russian olympic uniforms for 2014, Russia appearently does not want their uniforms made in China either). Will wait and see what happens. |
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| Posted 10 months ago This is an outrage. The Olympic Uniforms should be America made!!! Doc Troll Hunter, need I say more? Navy Corpsman and proud of it. |
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| Posted 10 months ago Not only is it WRONG, it is incredibly STUPID! PL MENTORING TEAM MEMBER "Don't underestimate the drawing power of the Garden State." From the film "Dogma" Trying to stay sane in an insane world... |
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| Posted 10 months ago Those no good stinking *&(*^$#@@&*(&(*%%$$###@!)(*&*() |
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| Posted 10 months ago I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would think this was a good idea... Teach them politics and war so that their sons may study medicine and mathematics, in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, and architecture.--John Adams |
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| Posted 10 months ago And the lowest bidder is... But seriously you would think something as simple as uniforms could be made here in America. Sad fact is just about everything that is sold has some tie to China whether its the materials manufacturing or assembly. Best we can do is look for that Made in U.S.A. stamp. When I was working for an auto parts store I had somebody come in looking for a 5 gallon gas can. I showed them what we had and they complained that price was 3x what they could get it for at Wal-Mart. I agreed but noted the difference. Ours were made in America. SOLD! It's the classic cost vs quality. Some look for where it's made, some look for quality, and most look at the price. All the bull aside, if we had THAT much trouble getting an American made uniform, I can think of millions of grandmothers with needles and thread that would gladly volunteer. And they would take far more pride in craftsmanship than some day labor working an assembly line. Just sayin. Funny how the only enumerated right that contains the phrase "shall not be infringed" suffers the heaviest regulation. I'm still trying to find where it says anything about hunting and targets. |
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| Posted 10 months ago It's not right ! So remember this come November when you go to vote. Exercise your right to VOTE and see if we can educate the ignorant and do something about it! Just sayen... |
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| Posted 10 months ago I found it to be a bad idea. But I also thought the outfit was ugly. The blazer and pants are okay, but what is up with the beret? What are we, French? If you can put some ice in a glass of bourbon I can drink it. If you can't I can still drink it. |
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| Posted 10 months ago Ralph Lauren has lost his mind. These uniforms look like something out of 'Paris is Burning.' " In the category of Real Real" - Voguing with The Toy Yacht Club. The stingy cut of the so-called blazers looks like somebody was trying to save on fabric. And please dear God spare me are the collars rounded??? Look at the jacket length on the guy third from the left. It looks like a novelty t-shirt done like a blazer. Berets? These are beanies. Where are the propellers? The women's uniform looks like a boarding school uniform. What is that an ascot for crying out loud??? Creepy.
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| Posted 10 months ago Just change the funny hats
Sry for the size tried 3 times to shrink it. Funny how the only enumerated right that contains the phrase "shall not be infringed" suffers the heaviest regulation. I'm still trying to find where it says anything about hunting and targets. |
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| Posted 10 months ago The only reason I voted "No" is because I couldn't vote "H _ _ _ No !!". The hats are embarassingly stupid. Nuff said !!! |
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| Posted 10 months ago They look like they should bear the Soviet Star. A complete slap in the face. Its the Olympics not a fashion show. Funny how the only enumerated right that contains the phrase "shall not be infringed" suffers the heaviest regulation. I'm still trying to find where it says anything about hunting and targets. |
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| Posted 10 months ago Lets look at this objectively. The Olympics are funded by donations. Material and clothing are either personally owned or provided by the committee. Funds are LIMITED. Why the outcry now and not in previous years, those materials/clothing were purchased from "other" countries? Travel,food,cost of living etc. are a huge budget expense. I would rather see our athletes there competing than not having enough money to send them. For 'us' cops, look at the labels on your uniforms. Made in Pakistan, India, China, Malaysia etc. If I rip a shirt and have to purchase another at my expense, guess what, its going to be in my budget no matter where its made. ""Life is a storm.. You will bask in the sunlight one moment, be shattered on the rocks the next. What makes you a man is what you do when that storm comes"
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| Posted 10 months ago This problem is far more far spread. A few months ago, I worked a detail for the POTUS. The Secret Service guys like to go around and pass out presidental items to those working the details, as they have for years. Pres Obama has 2 common items, little boxes of presidential peanut M&Ms, and a small metal tin containing 4 chocolats. On the back of the chocolate tin, it says, Chocolates proudly made in the USA. Awesome I thought. Underneath that statement it says in much smaller letters "Tin Made in China" We can't even get the stuff our own President hands out to be made completly in the USA. This upset me In a world where there are Sheep and Wolves,
I am NOT a hero
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| Posted 10 months ago I'd rather have seen the business stay in the U.S. Made in America should be proudly emblazoned on those Olympic unifroms. |
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| Posted 10 months ago Looking at it objectively, donations are probably substantial enough to accomodate a budget for USA manufacture. (Anyone investigated thoroughly??) Looking at it objectively, probably neither an 'either or', nor 'live with it or do without' choice can justify a convenient farm-out to China. Rather...probably a choice of contractual convenience?? Looking at it objectively, when contracting for"Made in China" carries a central unwanted message underscoring American job loss, a 'tardy' complaint is better than no complaint. That includes the label inside a law enforcement officer's uniform. As they say, the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
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| Posted 10 months ago MarlyB says ...
I never said I agreed or it was justified from a patriotic/pr standpoint. I merely offered reasons. Why are so many items made in foreign countries and imported? Simple, the American consumer wants a decent product at a low price. If American citizens put their patriotic mouth where their wallets are this would be a non issue. ""Life is a storm.. You will bask in the sunlight one moment, be shattered on the rocks the next. What makes you a man is what you do when that storm comes"
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| Posted 10 months ago Al's right. Stuff is made in China due to consumer demand for quality, "cost conscious" manufactured product. Would American consumers buy an iPhone if it cost 20-30% more if it were made by American workers under homeland manufacturing standards? Would they buy as many? Even dispensing with the patriotic angle--the worker conditions angle doesn't seem to be enough yet to motivate consumers to do the "right" thing. Bessie Braddock: “Sir, you are drunk.” Churchill: “Madam, you are ugly. In the morning, I shall be sober.” |
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| Posted 10 months ago In the case of the Olympic uniforms, Ralph Lauren seemed contented to pocket the cost conscious part of it and not pass any of it (in the spirit of patriotism?) onto the Olympic committee. I don't have the details in front of me, but I remember seeing an article a few days ago that showed a table that broke down what each item cost Ralph Lauren vs what they charged the Olympic committee. It was obvious they didn't have a lot of team spirit. Bessie Braddock: “Sir, you are drunk.” Churchill: “Madam, you are ugly. In the morning, I shall be sober.” |
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| Posted 10 months ago As far as the design of the uniforms goes: they look GREAT!!....if you're a color-blind (what? that's not red? :) ) card-carrying member of the CPC. Bessie Braddock: “Sir, you are drunk.” Churchill: “Madam, you are ugly. In the morning, I shall be sober.” |
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| Posted 10 months ago Why can't we use the Olympic Stage to show our pride in American Enterprise ? Outsourcing gone worldwild and too comfortable! Next time lets show what we can do in USA USA ! |
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| Posted 10 months ago mz66 says ...
Most consumers are 'cost conscious', not 'quality conscious', most of the inexpensive Chinese products are krap and rapidly break or fall apart. Saw on the news last night lots of clothing manufacture returning to the US due to quality problems with foreign suppliers. |
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| Posted 10 months ago Well yeah sure lets indict the consumer as the sole cause of the trade deficit. Not that your average Walmart consumer has much choice no matter how hard they squawk. You don't even see American-made clothespins alongside China made. Reason? Umm..."Buy Bamboo". Just to prove bamboo's superiority, displayed right alongside are badly made, badly finished, light-weight Chinese wooden ones that look like splinters waiting to happen. You pays your money yada yada. Ok, so -Clean manufacturing? Wonder what belches into the air to make 'bamboo everything' Not to mention electronic everything. Over "there". Where you can't see your hand in front of your face. Whose zoomin' who? Of course, the whole China-made doesn't happen by magic - does it? Nope. I druther take a closer look at the phenomenal US debt to China and how increased imports of China-manufactured goods might be intended to help offset that debt. Thus blowing up the trade deficit. Not that past and present administrations have had anything to do with encouraging THAT particular trade off. Of course there's that magnificent savings on labor AND escaping the bother of all those pesky workplace regulations here in the US. BTW, the Chinese Factories Tour Bus Fleet leaves at noon. Course, makes biz a lot easier if contracts don't get bogged down under all them 'free enterprise factors', right? Contracts? China can contract before you can blink an eye. A little thing called a totalitarian state. Great for cutting red tape. Line forms on the... LEFT. (Sorry, couldn't help it.)
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| Posted 10 months ago The problem with this is not that they were made in china and congress is bitching the problem is that congress will not pass made in america only for govement progects that fence at the border of mexico is chiness steel not americain
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| Posted 10 months ago Like MarlyB pretty much stated, the China/Us manufacturing trade issue is beyond complicated in a thousand different ways. Just on a population factor China outnumbers Us nearly 3 to 1. The last 20 years China has boomed in manufacturing, Why? Cuz they have thousands of factories ready to mass produce anything from Nike's to Kathy Lee Gifford pants and most likely the computer you're using right now to read this. We can't compete with numbers on that scale. If you think about how we've used China as an easy source of credit to keep things going it's even worse. We're playing a bad game of Monopoly, sure we got Boardwalk and Park Place, but they mean nothing when the rest of the board has been bought up and we keep landing on those spots. Our only export to the world is bad TV shows like Baywatch and Jersy Shore. It just tells the world how easy it really is, to get us to do something stupid. I cross my fingers and hope for the best, but expect the worst. |



