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Poll: Do you think they will allow me another opportunity to take the polygraph?

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I recently underwent background investigation and polygraph testing with a police department and I unfortunately failed the polygraph. Here is the situation, I passed every question except one, and my answer changed, the question was have you ever stolen anything or shoplifted before, I remembered back to the first time I had ever shoplifted and said yes and explained the situation. I was not hooked up to the polygraph at this time, I disclosed the info before hand and told her it was when I was 16. She asked while hooked up to the machine if I had ever stolen or shoplifted other than what we had discussed I said no, immediately after that, I remembered that I had shoplifted at the age of 18 as well, I told her hold on, I have shoplifted other than that, I am sorry can you ask again, she said no its a fail, she informed me that I may be able to take another polygraph if the department allows it. There is 4 applicants in this process at this time and I have been told I scored highest in the oral board and the critical testing, so I am the number one candidate. but there is only 3 positions available. I had no intent to lie and told the truth about it when she asked again. based on the circumstances do you believe the department will allow me to test again? The only thing I can think of is that they dont want to pay for another polygraph for me and the other 3 applicants pass the test the first time around. Please respond on what you believe and what you think I should do>>contact them and explain or no contact and await their call.....

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what on here is bullshit??? I why would I lie about something like that, Don't question my integrity.....I was one hundred percent honest with her, I remember the 16 year old thing because that was the first time I did it, and what I remembered wasnt literally shoplifiting, I was changing tags for expensive shoes with the cheap ones and paying for the cheap price but getting the more expensive shoe. So at first, I really didnt consider it shoplifting but I was way overthinking it and I told her the truth about it in the middle of the test

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Oh don't mind treehugger he is a bully from way back

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I also call BS.

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 Bump TreeHugger, just what I thought!


Did you not disclose this information on your application? I know every police application ask if have stolen anything in your life and it looks like you lied. Their is no I forgot in this line of work. When you submit that application you sign it swearing that everything in that application is true. That is why you have sit down and look at your life completely. So when you lied on the test you were not 100% honest, do not say your were because you were not. What you did is a criminal act and a serious one at that. If you like to change stuff and lie about what happen, what makes me think that you would not try that in the job. Their are plenty of applications that have not lied with no criminal background or troubles. I would not call them, they will probably send you a letter in the mail stating they are not interested. 


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Bump Chief and Tree!  Your moral compass is off if you think switching tags on merchandise is not stealing!  You brought your integrity into question.  Granted everyone makes errors but you seem to make the same error over and over again and attempt to justify it in your mind!  You asked the question and here is my answer:  Find another occupation! LE has enough problems weeding out the bad apples, it is best when we stop them before they get in the door!  Good luck with that!!!!

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 Bump TreeHugger, just what I thought!


Did you not disclose this information on your application? I know every police application ask if have stolen anything in your life and it looks like you lied. Their is no I forgot in this line of work. When you submit that application you sign it swearing that everything in that application is true. That is why you have sit down and look at your life completely. So when you lied on the test you were not 100% honest, do not say your were because you were not. What you did is a criminal act and a serious one at that. If you like to change stuff and lie about what happen, what makes me think that you would not try that in the job. Their are plenty of applications that have not lied with no criminal background or troubles. I would not call them, they will probably send you a letter in the mail stating they are not interested. 



Bump!

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Bump! One of the questions asked on the polygraph packets I filled out specifically ask "have you ever change a price tag on an item to get the lower price?" I'm pretty sure it's a common question for the PDs. 


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Bump Chief and Tree!  Your moral compass is off if you think switching tags on merchandise is not stealing!  You brought your integrity into question.  Granted everyone makes errors but you seem to make the same error over and over again and attempt to justify it in your mind!  You asked the question and here is my answer:  Find another occupation! LE has enough problems weeding out the bad apples, it is best when we stop them before they get in the door!  Good luck with that!!!!



Bump snhadley..


Changing tags on merchandise is stealing; I don't care how you look at it.  And to have forgotten, initially, to diclose this information is in fact an "attempt to justify it in your mind".   With that being said, my interpretation is you believe what you did was not wrong.  


 


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Oh don't mind treehugger he is a bully from way back



You guys are such a bunch of Bully's!!!


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You too root hugger...Tell purple owl hi

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Another one bites the dust.


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 I had no intent to lie and told the truth about it when she asked again. based on the circumstances do you believe the department will allow me to test again? The only thing I can think of is that they dont want to pay for another polygraph for me and the other 3 applicants pass the test the first time around. Please respond on what you believe and what you think I should do>>contact them and explain or no contact and await their call.....



 


Um, no.The reason is not monetary. It is you. My opinion, you tried to get it by the application, then the polygraph but couldnt. It was your intent. There are no  "do-overs" in life, in this business. You live with your mistakes.


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Just from the way you worded your question and statement to us, shows you have done this numerous times.  A person usually steals 50 to 60 times before getting caught for the first time.  We have all been around the block a few times, so we already know what happen on your polygraph, and why you failed it.  Learn from your mistake and start being honest with yourself.  This only tells us you are not ready to commit to a job in Law Enforcement.


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Just from the way you worded your question and statement to us, shows you have done this numerous times.  A person usually steals 50 to 60 times before getting caught for the first time.  We have all been around the block a few times, so we already know what happen on your polygraph, and why you failed it.  Learn from your mistake and start being honest with yourself.  This only tells us you are not ready to commit to a job in Law Enforcement.



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What is a polygraph...LOL we never have used that. But then again we are a small dept. and we try to hire locals that we know and trust.


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Im getting ready for a poly also. Take peoples advice here with a grain of salt. The ladies and gents here only offer insight. They arent giving you the poly,they dont know the specifics for the dept. you wanna work at, and protocols change alot from when some became officers. I asked for advice about my juvie record haunting me,and didnt get the answers i liked. So i went to collect all traffic offenses for state,local,and county and printed them out. from online. My Juvenile record im pulling tomorrow. Now when i go in I wont be suprised and can be as honest as possible about the past. Next time i suggest you do some heavy thinking,and run your records yourself to help ring a bell or two.

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 I am a polygraph examiner.  Be 100% truthful before the examinaiton starts.  Don't hold information back that you think is unimportant.  You will have problems if your not 100% truthful on all quesrtions.  Examiners don't have time for persons that want to tell half truths, we are busy trying to find qualified applicants that are honest and hard working.  Excuses don't help you, only truthfulness does.  

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Im getting ready for a poly also. Take peoples advice here with a grain of salt. The ladies and gents here only offer insight. They arent giving you the poly,they dont know the specifics for the dept. you wanna work at, and protocols change alot from when some became officers. I asked for advice about my juvie record haunting me,and didnt get the answers i liked. So i went to collect all traffic offenses for state,local,and county and printed them out. from online. My Juvenile record im pulling tomorrow. Now when i go in I wont be suprised and can be as honest as possible about the past. Next time i suggest you do some heavy thinking,and run your records yourself to help ring a bell or two.



Yes....... This guy is in the same boat that you are in and is about to take the polygraph for the first time.  Therefore, nevermind the opinions of those who have already been hired and some who are in fact background investigators for their departments or polygraph examiners, listen only to this guy called thePawnfinder who is the self-procaimed expert.  The rest of us don't know squat what we are talking about.  See how far you get.......


 with that load of crap.

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A major bump awarded to SkoolCop,in regard to Pawnfather.Been on this link one week and already has all the answers.Looks as though he's pretty much calling leos liars.We don't need your type pal,stick to detailing cars.

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i think that if you have so many traffic offenses that you have to print them out from several sources as well as print out an extensive juvenile history you may also want to consider another line of work. just my two cents worth.


 


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 Bump to all the LEO comments and a round of applause to Skoolcop!  


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