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Jdbelt_front_max50

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Posted almost 2 years ago

 

What happens if you fail your PE?


I'm pretty sure I will nail three of the four criteria but the fourth, the bench press, I may simply run out of time for. I am finding I need at least two or three days to recover to continue making progress and the days just don't add up.


Granted I am assuming that I will do well on the written test which I may or may not actually do. For the sake of arguement let's say I do. All candidates who score well will be asked to return and perform an entrance level PE and psych test. I am assuming that it is the same as the entrance for the academy but I guess it may be easier.


So do I just show up and tell them "Hey, I'll never make the bench press but I can do the rest" or what? Is there generally an extension or something?


Thanks.


 

Rafngreenblack_max50

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If you showed up to one of my testing sites with that attitude I'd drum you out the door! Don't ever ask a proctor for an extension because you know you can't pass the test. What that really says is, "Hey, I'm too lazy to prepare for this test, so the rules shouldn't apply to me. So, ya, can I just skip that part?"


Now, with that being said, why do you think you'll fail? Have you been preparing for this test and know without a shadow of a doubt you are nowhere close to meeting the criteria? If that's the case, wait for the next round and knock it out of the park. If you are just doubting yourself, STOP IT!


I would recommend you lose the defeatist attitude in general. Its normal to have some butterflies and jitters when going through the application process. But for Pete's sake, don't go into it with the expectation to fail.


Sit down and give yourself an honest sitrep. If you aren't fully prepared, so be it. Now you know what you need to improve on. If your self-doubt is the issue, kick its @ss to the curb and grow a pair!


Now drop and give me 20 for making me yell at you......

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Rate This | Posted almost 2 years ago

 

 Bump MH557!


If you showed up saying that to me, you might as well forget about getting on board for the next 5 years. Because you already showed us that you want extentions and cannot handle the hard things of this job. You cannot get extentions in this job, you cannot go up to your supervisor and ask for an extention on a report that you did not do. Things have to be done and done now! 


How long have you known about the test? Did you even temp to try to prepare for this test? Most departments put out the application process and in that process their is usually a physical test to do. All you can do is show up and do your best, that is all you can do. Do not go in their with failure already in your mind. Because if you do, you will fail!


You wouldn't go in there for a million bucks...A Cop does it for less...A Reserve does it for free....

Jdbelt_front_max50

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Rate This | Posted almost 2 years ago

 

Perhaps I misrepresented my position. I would never ask for an extension or to skip any part of anything. I was simply trying to understand if it would be better to be up front with the instructor.


I have been training regularly (but not that long) and I know for a fact I cannot bench that much weight. At least not right now I can't. I know I will be able to in a few months at my current pace but free weights are new to me so I don't know when I will plateau. I did not even know of the specific body weight % until after I signed up for the test. I knew there would be a PE of course but not precisley what it entailed. I assumed largely cardio but not so much apparently. Running, pushups and situps (unassisted...man that's brutal) I am pretty sure I can make right now. It's just the bench that takes so much recovery time.


I am actually in pretty good shape but never lifted freeweights. Not since high school anyway and even then I was no body builder. My MA training was more "soft strength", cardio and endurance. In retrospect it was actually closer to boxing than anything else. I gave it up after three years when I started hitting the gym in preperation for this.


Anyway if I get the call I will go and give my best either way. I likely would have either way no matter what anyone said anyway. All the LEO's I talked to around here said to take the test at least twice. I think I can take it three times a year so the next round is not too far off in what I understand can be a very long process.


Thanks for the input.


 


 


 

Rafngreenblack_max50

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Rate This | Posted almost 2 years ago

 

Obi_Wan_Jim says ...



What happens if you fail your PE?


I'm pretty sure I will nail three of the four criteria but the fourth, the bench press, I may simply run out of time for. I am finding I need at least two or three days to recover to continue making progress and the days just don't add up.


Granted I am assuming that I will do well on the written test which I may or may not actually do. For the sake of arguement let's say I do. All candidates who score well will be asked to return and perform an entrance level PE and psych test. I am assuming that it is the same as the entrance for the academy but I guess it may be easier.


So do I just show up and tell them "Hey, I'll never make the bench press but I can do the rest" or what? Is there generally an extension or something?


Thanks.


No offense, but it kinda seems like your pursuit of a LE career was undertaken on a whim. You state you didn't know what the PE test would entail before you signed up for it? Heck, I Googled it in under 10 seconds: 


Your age group-


1.5 mile run in under 14:11


16 push-ups (Really, 16?) 


28 sit-ups in a minute 


1 rep bench press at 78% of your bodyweight (156# for a 200# male) 


 Contrary to what it may sound like, I'm not trying to bust your chops. Its just that we see a lot of people who one day say, "Hey, I think it would be fun to be a cop," but have no idea of the sacrifices and effort required to do so. There are excellent candidates out there, who have done everything within their power to prepare themselves for this career, and they've been actively applying (and being turned down) for years.


If you know you can't pass the test, its up to you if you want to attempt it. Maybe it will give you some experience for the next time around and you'll know for a fact what you need to improve on. As far as getting an extension or a pass on a particular station of the exam, you can certainly ask the proctor what your options are. For us, you either pass or you fail. Same with the written portion.


I'm not trying to come across as an @ss or imply you're lazy. Simply offering my .02 worth on a topic most of us here are quite passionate about. If this is what you feel called to do, then go for it. And I wish you the best of luck with your future endeavors....


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Rate This | Posted almost 2 years ago

 

Interesting........ Out of all of the physical agility tests I have ever taken (TRUST ME......... THERE HAVE BEEN MANY) I have never had to perform a bench press.  Must be done elsewhere....... not in Cali.

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Rate This | Posted almost 2 years ago

 

It is in fact pass or fail at any phase of the test (which I already knew) so I guess we'll just see what happens. The written exam is on Saturday and then it's 2-3 weeks for the results to come back before anything else happens.


 

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Rate This | Posted almost 2 years ago

 

I have to agree about taking this job on a whim? I am 60 and can press 225lbs. I could do 300 in my younger days. You can't do approx. 150lbs? How in the world do you expect to win a fight as a cop? Your upper body/arm strength is everything.


""Life is a storm.. You will bask in the sunlight one moment, be shattered on the rocks the next. What makes you a man is what you do when that storm comes"
Alexander Dumas-The Count of Monte Christo

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Rate This | Posted almost 2 years ago

 

Doesn't seem like a very difficult  physical agility test, and only one rep. on the bench press shouldn't be very hard, have to agree with  SGT405.

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Rate This | Posted almost 2 years ago

 

I started training for the SAPD PT test almost a year in advance and I missed my run by 11 seconds. At that time, we could only test 1x/yr, so I took a few months off and then went back to training...the nexy time, I tore my rotator cuff in training too hard for push ups. Went back the next year and tore all of the tendons in my foot during the run. Needless to say, I took several YEARS off, but stayed as a volunteer. Its just now, 4 years later, that I am training again to go back. However, now, you can test pretty much whenever you want.


Nothing worth having comes easy or everyone would have it. If you want it, go get it! Good luck to you.

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Rate This | Posted almost 2 years ago

 

Thanks SA_Lisa


Good luck to you as well!

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Rate This | Posted almost 2 years ago

 

Well I just took my first PE and missed on the situps but it was a good experience.


Actually I got the count but had three DQ'd for poor form and ran out of time. The guy they partnered me (probably 20 years my junior) with also failed but his requirement was much higher. I would say about 1/3 of the people failed on the situps but I think everyone made the pushups.


I have been running my butt off six days a week to make the run in time but never got that far. I'm a little disappointed since I know now for a fact I can make that with time to spare. This town had no bench press test but I likely would have made that by now as well although it will be close. Some towns that contacted me have higher than academy standards for bench weight (and/or running, sit-ups, etc) but I still have a few weeks to try and get there.


I actually got an invite for PE from one town one that includes swimming too. I don't think I have been in the water since open water dive certification but I have always been a strong swimmer.


Just wanted to follow up for anyone interested.


BTW I had the fastest heart rate recovery time in my group and I don't think there was a person in the whole building who was within 10 years of me.


 

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Rate This | Posted almost 2 years ago

 

Obi_Wan_Jim says ...



Well I just took my first PE and missed on the situps but it was a good experience.


Actually I got the count but had three DQ'd for poor form and ran out of time. The guy they partnered me (probably 20 years my junior) with also failed but his requirement was much higher. I would say about 1/3 of the people failed on the situps but I think everyone made the pushups.


I have been running my butt off six days a week to make the run in time but never got that far. I'm a little disappointed since I know now for a fact I can make that with time to spare. This town had no bench press test but I likely would have made that by now as well although it will be close. Some towns that contacted me have higher than academy standards for bench weight (and/or running, sit-ups, etc) but I still have a few weeks to try and get there.


I actually got an invite for PE from one town one that includes swimming too. I don't think I have been in the water since open water dive certification but I have always been a strong swimmer.


Just wanted to follow up for anyone interested.


BTW I had the fastest heart rate recovery time in my group and I don't think there was a person in the whole building who was within 10 years of me.


Thanks for the update. Stay the course and keep us posted.... 


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Rate This | Posted almost 2 years ago

 

Obi_Wan_Jim says ...



What happens if you fail your PE?


I'm pretty sure I will nail three of the four criteria but the fourth, the bench press, I may simply run out of time for. I am finding I need at least two or three days to recover to continue making progress and the days just don't add up.


Granted I am assuming that I will do well on the written test which I may or may not actually do. For the sake of arguement let's say I do. All candidates who score well will be asked to return and perform an entrance level PE and psych test. I am assuming that it is the same as the entrance for the academy but I guess it may be easier.


So do I just show up and tell them "Hey, I'll never make the bench press but I can do the rest" or what? Is there generally an extension or something?


Thanks.


 



Never even considered it. Good luck.


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Rate This | Posted over 1 year ago

 

I tested for four departments in one state and three in another.I passed all the tests in all the departments.In all the departments it was definately a requirement ot pass EVERY test before you were eligible to return for the next.There are NO bargains made that you will be hired if you kinda pass some of the tests,in a partial manner.