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How you you as a police officer use discretion while on patrol?

 


For example, citing people. How do you decide who gets a ticket and who dosen't. Assuming they all violated the law.


What ways do you police the community to make a positive apprearence?


For example, Do you stop and talk to the little old granny?

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WHAT THE H3LL IS, DISCREATION????

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TreeHugger719 says ...



WHAT THE H3LL IS, DISCREATION????



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Oh, for second I thought there was a whole community policing concept that I knew nothing about.

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WHAT THE H3LL IS, DISCREATION????



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TreeHugger719 says ...



WHAT THE H3LL IS, DISCREATION????



German Death Metal



Or another name for "Modern Art"????

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Back to the OP's question: I'm sure there is no standard operating procedure for "discretion"--by definition.




Bessie Braddock: “Sir, you are drunk.”
Churchill: “Madam, you are ugly. In the morning, I shall be sober.”

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I am curious of your questions. Why do you axe?

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These kinds of question pop up in criminal justice classes all the time.  Students are always interested to know under what circumstances an officer might exercise discretion - say, what would influence the decision to issue a verbal warning as opposed to issuing a traffic citation. A good answer will tell something important about the job. 


A scenario might help prompt a response.


Students also want to know if, outside a law enforcement context, being friendly to John Q. Public is a required part of the job, or something the individual officer chooses to do.  I expect most hope it might explain why some officers are generally more friendly than others.

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I'll  use my discretion and decline to answer.


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 rescue101.. Please check your inbox


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As in -


A streetwalker with a lengthy record for prostitution returns to her point of sales at the corner of Fulton and B for the umpteenth time.  An officer observes her stuffing a chili dog with 'the works' into her mouth.  A huge clump of toppings slides off and plops on the sidewalk.  The streetwalker ignores it and throws the rest of the fast food bag into the trash.   The officer arrests the streetwalker for littering.


The best use of officer discretion or not?

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Creation usually refers to something coming from nothing, so discreation would presumably be the turning something into nothing, which pretty much describes this thread IMO.

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Beg to differ - at least in terms of the topic raised.  Police discretion is a useful topic - handily covered by experts in law enforcement training.


Community policing is also covered in depth.  Neither of these are big secrets.


Too bad the OP hasn't returned to resume his topic, but maybe Firedad's courtesy has satisfied his question after all.  As to my theoretical - won't hurt my feelings a bit if y'all blow it off.  I already know the answer!

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All law enforcement officers treat the public with respect, courtesy and professionalism. Discretion is an individual decision on the part of the individual officer...

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rescue101 you do know that by editing your OP you can change the spelling of the topic title right?

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rescue101 you do know that by editing your OP you can change the spelling of the topic title right?



I fixed it Dara


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Officer discretion is an individual officer's choice, and in my case, I can't often tell someone else why I choose to cite one person and give another a verbal warning for the same offense, I have my reasons but they are hard to describe in a meaningful way, but my best answer would be a 'totality of circumstances' includuing how the violator acts.



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I am curious of your questions. Why do you axe?



I started as an armed security guard and I currently run into these problems. Therefore, i'm looking for some outside advise.

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DPalmer says ...



rescue101 you do know that by editing your OP you can change the spelling of the topic title right?



I fixed it Dara


Thanks forgot to do so.


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I'll  use my discretion and decline to answer.



Funny :)

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These kinds of question pop up in criminal justice classes all the time.  Students are always interested to know under what circumstances an officer might exercise discretion - say, what would influence the decision to issue a verbal warning as opposed to issuing a traffic citation. A good answer will tell something important about the job. 


A scenario might help prompt a response.


Students also want to know if, outside a law enforcement context, being friendly to John Q. Public is a required part of the job, or something the individual officer chooses to do.  I expect most hope it might explain why some officers are generally more friendly than others.



In regards to a senario, I might be placed with citing someone for speeding, running a stop sign etc. In addition, citing teenagers for curfew and such. I can see the totality of circumstances being taken into effect, however, I don't want to not do my job the way it's supposed to be done. I have been in unarmed security for 4 years and talk to most workers with the how is your day going question.  Therefore, while on armed security patrol I'd personally  talk to people. Just like to get some ideas.


Thanks everyone.

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rescue 101, I just edited my post for clarity at the exact moment you posted my unedited post.  lol


Frankly, I've heard a LOT of folk pose all kinds of scenarios to get a better idea of how police discretion works.  It's not rocket science.  Does depend on the individual officer re: the circumstances at hand, departmental policies, how the case is likely to be recieved by a judge in court, etc.  Any or all combinations. 


As you pursue your career you might find a better reception of this topic on-ground.  So much can be misinterpreted in print.


Because of silly word-twisting games in cyber-space, you can see why officers might choose to be conservative about engaging in a public forum on this topic.

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Marly as to your scenario, what is a street walker? We no have them in this area. LOL


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Others have said it well. It a personal decision that is incident based. The one question I would ask myself in any given situation.


Is this person or  the general public better served by not citing them or  citing them? Remembering that good community relations  are needed also.


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Who would arrest for littering on that level?... Is dropping food littering?  ( I say no, unless you are unloading a dump truck full on the sidewalk.) 


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It has been done, DonnaLynn.  Heard it described by the officer who did it.  Although I changed the 'food litter' to protect the innocent. lol


Yes, technically, it qualified as litter according to the officer.  The streetwalker had been arrested many times and had returned to the same corner every time.  The officer was sick of it.  The judge threw the case out.  Then the judge admonished the overly-enthusiastic officer not to bring a case like that into his court again. 

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Marly as to your scenario, what is a street walker? We no have them in this area. LOL



Discretion = If your last name is WALKER.......... Do NOT name your child STREET.

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gudercop says ...



Marly as to your scenario, what is a street walker? We no have them in this area. LOL



Discretion = If your last name is WALKER.......... Do NOT name your child STREET.



 


Too Funny!!!!!


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SkoolCop says ...



gudercop says ...



Marly as to your scenario, what is a street walker? We no have them in this area. LOL



Discretion = If your last name is WALKER.......... Do NOT name your child STREET.



If your leat name is Walker, you could name your child Texas Ranger.

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