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Joey_max50

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Posted over 2 years ago

 

I was having lunch at firehouse today and noticed 2 LEOs having lunch together and it got me thinking.


 


What if you were having lunch (on-duty) and LEOs came (maybe after watching somone inside from the outside...or anyother reason such as a bust) yelling, guns drawn on a suspect. What would you do? Is there protocol for this situation? Would you stay put, or you would try to find out if help is needed?

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We don't get lunch breaks. We may be having lunch while on duty, but if a call comes, we take it. I've reheated the same meal several times during one shift. I finally gave up and didn't eat. The scenario you give is extreme. Shots fired........you think anybody would stay and eat lunch, let alone an on duty police officer?


 

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Bump, Shultzy....... I've done ride alongs with LEOs and if we get calls during our lunch breaks, we're gone!!! 


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If anyone leaves me hanging to finish his burger, then we got problems! Bump schultzy


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schultzy04 says ...



We don't get lunch breaks. We may be having lunch while on duty, but if a call comes, we take it. I've reheated the same meal several times during one shift. I finally gave up and didn't eat. The scenario you give is extreme. Shots fired........you think anybody would stay and eat lunch, let alone an on duty police officer?


 



I do appreciate the reply but I didn't mention a lunch break or shots being fired. I'll re word the question. 


Youre eating lunch at a restauraunt when police barge in and take down a suspect (you were NOT called). What do you do? Do you ask if help is needed? Do you jump right in? Etc...

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It seems like you are looking for people to give you specific answers, but I doubt you'll get any. Its already been made clear that an Officer isn't go to just sit there and do nothing. But there are too many variables involved for anyone to tell you exactly what they would do.

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It seems like you are looking for people to give you specific answers, but I doubt you'll get any. Its already been made clear that an Officer isn't go to just sit there and do nothing. But there are too many variables involved for anyone to tell you exactly what they would do.



That answered my question. I was just curious if you would just stand off but your reply answered my question. Im certain people wouldn't stand around. But like I asked above, would you jump right in or would you see if more help is needed...

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Jo060 says ...



schultzy04 says ...



We don't get lunch breaks. We may be having lunch while on duty, but if a call comes, we take it. I've reheated the same meal several times during one shift. I finally gave up and didn't eat. The scenario you give is extreme. Shots fired........you think anybody would stay and eat lunch, let alone an on duty police officer?


 



I do appreciate the reply but I didn't mention a lunch break or shots being fired. I'll re word the question. 


Youre eating lunch at a restauraunt when police barge in and take down a suspect (you were NOT called). What do you do? Do you ask if help is needed? Do you jump right in? Etc...



I cannot see this senerio happening as you stated.  An officers location is known( by dispatch and the ther officers on shift as well, typically), even at lunch and other officers would not be sent to that location w/o notification of the officer present.

Joey_max50

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ah-ha. Good point.


Thank you!

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Common sense question. I question the motive behind this question.

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Thank you for editing your response. You had originally said "If you used a little common sense you could have answered your own question."


Do you feel better after saying your piece?

Instead of being a jerk, be happy and willing to help the people that are interested in your career and support a forum your're part of.


You question my motive? It may be hard to belive after everything (I'm sure) you've seen but trust me, not EVERYONE is out to get you. Other than some farfectched story, I can't see how a corrupt motive could be had from this question.

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Jo060 says



 


Thank you for editing your response. You had originally said "If you used a little common sense you could have answered your own question."


Do you feel better after saying your piece?

Instead of being a jerk, be happy and willing to help the people that are interested in your career and support a forum your're part of.


You question my motive? It may be hard to belive after everything (I'm sure) you've seen but trust me, not EVERYONE is out to get you. Other than some farfectched story, I can't see how a corrupt motive could be had from this question.



Grow some thicker skin buddy and watch the name calling. Uncle Dennis has been around for a while and has more LE experience than you probably have years alive. These kinds of posts and name calling are going to make your stay at policelink short and unpleasant.

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Also, you can't see where a corrupt motive can come into play, because you don't understand what we go through as police officers. Who knows, you could have seen officers eating lunch while somebody was getting beat up outside. You may be somebody that wants to file a law suit because officers didn't respond quick enough because they were on a break. You may have tried to ask an officer a question while he was eating, and he was rude to you. You want to file a complaint against him.


So...what do you do? You could post a generic question to law enforcement officers online to get them to "join your side" of the argument and use it as fuel to support your complaint. That is not farfetched. It is real life. We gave you the courtesy of answering your question without name calling. We expect the same decency.

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^^^^^


Agreed.


Watch it there, sonny.  Uncle D has service-dress socks older than you, and he's been around the block enough to know bovine excrement and rats when he smells them.  Check the 'tude and mind your manners if you expect to stick around, bub.

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Thanks for the support GrayPanther and Schultz04. I am certain the OP does not know my background or he would not have resorted to name calling. I did change my comment as I was attempting to be kinder. I am still shaking my head on this question however. Applicants now days concern me.

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IowaNinersFan says ...



Bump, Schultzy....... I've done ride alongs with LEOs and if we get calls during our lunch breaks, we're gone!!! 



Same thing here.  It doesn't matter whether your done or not.  We were gone too.

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If you are in a restaurant eating lunch when the police come in the door, with guns drawn, yelling commands to a suspect, your best bet is to sit tight.  DO NOT approach the officers, even to help, because you may be viewed as a potential threat to them and you actions could get you shot.


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If I am famished and a knife fight breaks out but no police have arrived yet,  I will take the box under the table - "I am going to eat this pizza until BULLETS FLY!!"


That way, since my friends already fled to the street, I get more slices.


PS Jo080 calling a member a jerk makes you sound like an A1 Nincompoop.

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I think Cedardale answered the question...all that's left is the roast...or less likely, some contrition on the part of Jo060 for having come into what is essentially the online equivalent of a cop bar and insulting the regular patrons. Oops.




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Retleo says ...



If you are in a restaurant eating lunch when the police come in the door, with guns drawn, yelling commands to a suspect, your best bet is to sit tight.  DO NOT approach the officers, even to help, because you may be viewed as a potential threat to them and you actions could get you shot.



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Wow yet another troll who doesn't deserve our time. I guess the "Occupy" movement has lost momentum? Look, Cedardale answered your question, something a small bit of common sense could have figured out. You decided to come in and disrespect UncleD. Bad move sweetpea. Enjoy oblivion.


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denise65 says ...



IowaNinersFan says ...



Bump, Schultzy....... I've done ride alongs with LEOs and if we get calls during our lunch breaks, we're gone!!! 



Same thing here.  It doesn't matter whether your done or not.  We were gone too.



Yep! Bump!


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 I'm sorry for any disrespect,I guess I'm just used to the car forums that I frequent where it is every man for himself. I suppose I should take my own advice when I say not everyone is out there to get you (me). 


it is really neat to see how everyone sticks together; gives hope. 

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Clarification Please!!!! What exactly is "Firehouse?"  Is this a restaurant or are you a fireman eating at the firehouse?


As Retleo stated, you may not know what is going on and why the police came into said location with guns drawn and shouting commands at a suspect or at suspects.  Sit tight and let them / us do their / our job and do not interfere.  You don't know the reason(s) that they / we are there doing what they / we are doing.  If you get in the way, you might not like the outcome. 

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I would NEVER suggest you barge right in and offer the Police help,especiall y if they're taking down a suspect and /or suspect.VERY poor idea.Especially if their guns are drawn,it would definately indicate an extremely serious situation and the chances of you being injured during this escapade are quite good.By the same token I would not interject myself into an operating theater to ask a neuro surgeon if he needs my help during the midst of a delicate brain surgery while he /she is attempting to tie off a bleeder.Same type question,same answer!!!!!!!

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 As a civilian in civilian clothes I'd never jump right in now THAT is common sense. What I was referring to is if you were in your Leo uniform. IthinkI wasn't clear at first but in my head I was thinking more of a bust where something has been strategically planned.

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Sooo.. are you asking what should an Officer do if there was a situation where he/she was eating lunch, off duty (out of uniform) and a crime was happening with guns drawn?  Or are you asking what should a civilian do in that case, sitting at a restaurant?  Can you please provide clarification? 


If it is the former, where an Officer is off duty just eating and something happens like that, I think your question is valid; does the off duty Officer (not in uniform), jump in to help... If it is the latter, NEVER assist. 


 


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Jo060 says ...



 As a civilian in civilian clothes I'd never jump right in now THAT is common sense. What I was referring to is if you were in your Leo uniform. IthinkI wasn't clear at first but in my head I was thinking more of a bust where something has been strategically planned.



Ok, thanks.. I think you just provided clarification on what I was asking.. I think we were typing at the same time. 


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