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I was surfing the forums trying to gather info on how to effectively plan my future in Law Enforment. As per my intro post, I am a 6 year USAF Active Duty Veteran which  AFSC was spent working on F-16's. Now I know just being in the Military with a honorable enlistment speaks for itself, I wonder if enlisting in the USAF reserve as a cop while in school to get my degree knocked out would do me any good with experience? I have read some posts that most deparments are only favoring for only Active duty MP experience. Also do departments frown on hiring current Reservists? In fear of scheduling/shift inconvienance if I get activated to deploy or have to fill my traditional service obligations of one weekend a month and two weeks of straight duty? I'm just trying to stand out above the rest when I apply at Orlando PD or Tampa PD.


Much obligued, for you input,


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I would join the reserves and once your complete your degree attend OCS. The second retirement will come in handy. I was in a National Guard Unit (MP) two years prior to beginning my law enforcement career and it assisted me. I was an idiot as I was recruited to attend OCS and turned it down. Weekend drills and two week summer camp just required a schedule change. I highly recommend this option. Thanks for your service also. Agencies love prior military. Military cop will assist you.

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Thanks for the reply Uncledennis1,


 


While I'm familiar with the AD side of the USAF, I have little knowledge of the Reserve side of the branch. I know trying to make rank in the Reserves isn't easy after E-5, (Basically someone has to retire or get promoted from E-6 and above) but applying for OCS in a reserve unit, that didn't come to mind but is a good idea. Hopefully they'll offer it to me once I get my degree. "Two week summer camp" LOL well put sir. I can concurr with that. I remember the Reservists F-16 maintainers had sweet TDY's for their two weeks. What degree's did they accept for a commission in Security Forces? Like I said I have this precocieved notion that it may look good on your resume to be a reservist, but potental employers try to avoid them due to the inconviences of them fufilling there duties. Do most PD's hire reservists? Should I be worried?

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No, sir, you should have no worries about being hired by a PD or an S/O being a Law Enforcement Reservist Officer while being a military Reservist.


There are some federal requirements that require agencies to give you the time you need for your once a month meeting and the two week active duty. That is not an agency option.


As far as your college and any possible degree: I would recommend obtaining a degree in something that you can parlay into another vocation if you become separated from law enforcement. By that I mean you could incur a career ending injury in the blink of an eye and you would need a fallback plan.


MP or military experience will always be a nice a resume tick mark but not necessary. Civilian law enforcement is such a different beast that there is little nexus between what you do in the military versus what you do in the military. The only similar thing are the handcuffs.


You also might spend some time talking with the agency of your choice and let them know your intentions. And then ask them what they are looking for in a new hire.


 


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Both UncleD's reply and TheSarge's reply are spot on. I was in the US Army National Guard when I was hired by my PD (after 10 years of Active Duty). They worked very well with me in reference to my monthly drills and 2 week Annual Training (I retired from the Reserve/Guard side). Even my previous employer worked with me when I was Active Duty for Special Work (ADSW) for the summer one year. Currently (at the department), we have several guys that are Reservists or Guardsmen. They've not only been activated for the montly/annual thing, but have also been activated for Iraq, Afghanistan, etc for their one year deployment. One of our officers is currently back on Active Duty for an extended time. His position is being held for the maximum time allowed (5 years).


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Wow, not a whole lot that can be added to those posts! This is an excellent idea as your degree will help you with promotions in the civilian police department and will also allow you to obtain a commission in the USAF reserve. The one other thing I might add is that if you can manage any extra time, check and see if your local PD or SO offers a LE Reserve program. If you can put an average of 8 to 16 hrs a week into being a reserve civilian LEO you can gain a tremendous amount of experience and information that can only help you in the future.

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Well I'm glad I joined Police Link and got all this usefull info on how to go about planning all this. Upon reading all the info that this site has to offer and first hand advice from everyone on the forums, it has come to be, a lot more clearer path for me on my goal in law enforcement. I may not have age on my side as some of the younger applicants, but being 34 and with some determination and focus I'm hoping that I should be fine. To be honest, I envy my oldest sister whom is 3 years younger than me and has stuck with law enforcement since she was 18 and is already a Lt. in federal service, with my other 21 year old sis on a similar path as well. In my current situation, I have the next five months to decide generally what I want to get my degree in before I relocate back to either GA or FL and activate my Chapter 30 GI Bill. Anyone know what bachelor's degree's other than CJ, that would be a great fall back if I wanted to stay in law enforcement as a support position, or in general? I don't want to make the same mistake I made in my early 20's of getting experience in a field that, before and after the recession has become downsized and outsourced to the lowest bidder with drastic cuts in pay as well and feeling boxed in on my options. Cause being unemployed quite bluntly SUCKS! My outlook on life has drastically changed ever since I became a father two years ago.


Much obligued Robocop33, 35TR, The Sarge and Uncledennis1 for the advice guess I'm back to lurkering.


 

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Dave,


As a Security Forces SNCO I would say if you are looking to go in a different direction than CJ for your degree I would look at a good Management degree. Business Management will help you in both careers. Everyone has to lead at one point or another not to mention all the leadership classes that you receive in the military such as ALS, NCO and SNCO or SOS (senior officers school)  academies will be an additional benefit. In my squadron we have several officers who do not have CJ degrees.

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I am currently in the reserves now as an NCO and my department had no issue with me being in the reserves. You should have no issue getting on to a department and a lot of reserve components are very accomodating in scheduling your 2 weeks...they can break them up to 2, 1 week trips or you can do extra weekends.