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Tips for a Smooth Transition from Active Duty Military (Michigan)

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 Greetings to Everyone,


I am currently Active Duty in the Marine Corps, with my EAS (End of Active Service) quickly approaching (just over a year from now, total of  5 years active duty). I would like to get out and work as a law enforcement officer in Michigan, and was wondering if anyone had any tips for a smooth transition. A little background:


-22 years old (23 by the time I leave the service)

-Previous drug use at age 16 (marijuanna, self disclosed on enlistment)

-Clean background check (currently have a secret clearance)

-No criminal record

-VERY little college (Have about 30 credits, mostly from military training that carried over)


A couple questions as well:


Whats the earliest that I could apply and be hired for a job before I leave active service? (I.E. - Would they hire me while I'm still in the military to start as soon as I get out, or would I have to be completely out before being hired?)


What are some good references to use to find out if a department is hiring? Checking online only showed a few departments near me with listings; is hiring really that low, or would it be beneficial to call each department individually?


I saw mention of housing being offered from some departments, is that a normal thing? It almost seems to good to really expect.


Do most stations use a polygraph test? I've read that those are rediculously unreliable and would hate to be disqualified due to false positives.


Lastly, what are some major differences between being hired as a city police officer versus a deputy sheriff?


 


Thanks for taking the time to read this and any additional feedback, and have a great day!


Mike

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Click on "Become a Cop". We get this question often.

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Dennis,


I actually read through all of that, they didn't have much advice for transitioning from military service. They touched on it very gently, but didn't mention anything about if they would be able to hire before EAS, they didn't mention any difference between sheriff deputy and local LEO, the said to ask about the housing but I asked on here for a general idea of it is usual or not, and same for the polygraph, to see what the guys who already went through it had to say.


I am looking for advice especially from those in hiring positions or those that have already done it, although any other advice would be appreciated.


Thanks,

Mike

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Welcome to Police Link from Philly. Thank you for your service.


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Welcome to PL from the midwest.  Thank you for your service.  I've never encountered a department that offers housing, I would suspect that it is not very common.  Look at the hire date and base your application on that, you will want ot be out of the service before the hire date and that also assumes that you can get time for the testing proior to the job offer.

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 Thanks Cedardale, and thanks to everyone else for the welcome

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Welcome.  Transition may depend on how long you have been in and what duties you filled.  Some have a difficult time transitioning back to civilian life.  You have some big questions that I think can be answered through research.  look up past forums difference between a Police Officer and a Sheriff's Deputy.  Sheriff's Deputy (Hint).                   

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Welcome and thank you for your service.


Are you MCOLES (Michigan Commission on Law Enforcement Standards) Certified or Certifiable? If you don't know, it basically means that you've been through a Michigan approved police academy. If you are not, then that would be your first step. In the past, police departments would hire and then send those individuals to an academy. They would even pay for them to go. Nowadays in Michigan, the only departments that are still doing this (that I know of) are the DPD and MSP. The good news is that the G.I. Bill will pay for finishing your Associates and the police academy.


Resources:


EMPCO - A hiring consortium that gives you an apptitude and psycological test, the results are then available for numerous agencies who are part of the consortium. 


MCOLES - Look for job postings on the MCOLES website. This is very up to date and informative.


The good news is that, despite the economy in Michigan, there are a lot of departments hiring right now. If you haven't heard, the MSP is putting together two large classes right now as well. If you are not MCOLES Certifiable, I would highly recommend looking into what the MSP has to offer.


Good Luck.


 

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 Thanks for the input. SEMIO, I haven't done anything with MCOLES except for look at the requirments to do the training, which I would be able to do. Thanks for pointing out the fact that a lot of departments want you to have training first; I had only heard from friends/family (all out of state unfortunately) and they said that the department would send you once you got hired. I'll definitely look into trying to go as soon as I am out of the military now. 


tstanfill63, the only big difference that I saw is that sheriff departments patrol counties, and also serve papers and work the jails, and everything else is about the same; is that about correct? If so I'll just apply at both until I get hired somewhere.


One last question - Do you generally haggle about the pay, or is it pretty much set in stone for most or all departments?


 


Thanks again,

Mike

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Different departments pay different salaries but as far as I know there is no haggling. Your starting salary will depend on your qualifications though, so being a veteran might help you take a step up.

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Just also wanted to say thanks for your service to your country.  I am an ex-Michigan Sheriff now Chicago suburban full-time officer.  When I got on with the sheriff's department that I worked at I had already worked inside the county for a local city police department for 5 years and networked through the county well.  I knew a lot of people at the county, that helped being a local officer first.  You meet a lot of persons transporting arrestee's to the county jail, on the street, ect.  But I can say this try to get sponsored through the academy you will have to go.  It's better to have someone else pay your way, than you have to pay it.  I payed my own way while doing a dule enrollment through my university in 2002.  Start now while you are still in so your ready to be hired when you come out for most sheriff's departments it a lenghthy process.  That's pretty much all I have.  One last thing I was blessed to know the sheriff of the county I worked in so I didn't have to go in the jail, I spent five days training in there and then rate to FTO on road patrol.  Have a good one, and good luck with the process.  Don't get discouraged I applied to estimated 150 agencies before I got my first start as a city cop.  Especially rate now it is a tough market and there is a lot of competition.