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Balancing the dream with real life.

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Wu_college_max50

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 I've been actively applying to police departments like mad for the last few months.  In many, I actually did well in the process - most of the time, with the exception of one department, I made it past oral boards.  I was even on the background check phase with one department, but was randomly dropped.  No reason was given.  I know I have nothing on my record, some of my references were called and had good talks with the investigators too.  That bit aside.


 


I'm graduating from college and commissioning as a National Guard officer in May.  This is itself a good accomplishment, and I believe that it has helped me overall in applications - I have a lot of relevant experience and knowledge somewhat unique to my age group and demographic.  I any case I will eventually have to go to BOLC, which is branch and officer training for newly commissioned officers.  I'm slotted to report to Fort Sill, OK on May 31, 2013 - next year.  Since I'm National Guard I theoretically have an option to change that and could push it out to as far as September 2013 if need be (vacancy dependent, obviously).


Ideally, I would like to be hired, go through academy and start work as a police officer as soon as possible.  Maybe even get my field training time in, depending on the department.  I don't want to just sit around unemployed, or working a menial hourly job waiting for over a year.  Theoretically, I should be able to go back to a job if I'm activated for training (Artillery BOLC, which off the top of my head is 18 weeks long).


Still, I'm concerned that I may be shooting myself in the foot with false hope.  Is it realistically possible for me to get into law enforcement with that upcoming extended training, at least at this point?  I'm applying like crazy and making plans to travel around the country if need be to go test for departments.  I'm going on ride alongs, studying and working out (more than usual) so I can stand out as a candidate, and convince a department that despite my anticipated absence, I am still a good candidate and would be willing to work with the department, like extending my field training time after BOLC, or deferring my employment until next academy cycle or something along those lines.


Mostly, I just don't want to languish for months or a year waiting for BOLC, and coming out and having to start over or even wait a long time before testing cycles begin again.  I'm trying my hardest to get in now, but I also understand real life takes precedence over dreams.


 


I know I sound like I'm second guessing myself, because I am, but I'm pretty sure we all do that sometimes.  Do I realistically have a chance now to balance the police dream with the National Guard training obligation, and get my career going?  Or is it more likely that I'll just have to accept the truth and turn my energy towards finding a regular job and accepting that I'll just have to wait for a couple of years?


I'd really appreciate any insight.  Thanks for being an awesome community.

White_shirt_max50

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I thought this was posted a few weeks ago. Am I correct?

Th_policeavatar_2__max50

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No dept. I know of will spend the money and resources to train you and then have you "disappear" for an extended time. Sorry.


""Life is a storm.. You will bask in the sunlight one moment, be shattered on the rocks the next. What makes you a man is what you do when that storm comes"
Alexander Dumas-The Count of Monte Christo

Bronzestarribbon_max50

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It was posted a few weeks ago Uncle D.

LT(P), don't get down it will happen for you, my suggestion is take the time to get your OBC out of the way and any other necessary military schools completed. Get more schools under your belt and assimilate into your unit and get to know your soldiers. Take this time to work on preparing yourself for being a leader of Red Legs and though 1st LT, 3 years AWAY, is usually automatic, things are changing in the military, so seek training to improve your soldier skills and all the while keep applying, as I said it will happen in due time. Gods plan for you is to hone your leadership skills and be a good soldier and military leader...

Wu_college_max50

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 In retrospect, I guess I did post this a couple of weeks ago.  Somehow, I had forgotten about it when I put it up late and tired last night.  My apologies!


 


I suppose I should probably accept that realistically, I'm going to have a bear of a time convincing a department to hire me with that impending training, even if I push my BOLC date out further which would allow me to finish academy and field training largely uninterrupted.  Then again, I've heard of people being able to go to BCT/AIT and deployments while police officers.  Granted, they were already in as police officers, and enlisted.  Still.


I thought about it and decided I'm not content with rolling over and giving up or putting the dream on hold.  I know it's tough but I know I have a lot to offer a department, and to the Guard.  To this end I'll keep applying and testing as much as I can.  Work with the Guard and prospective departments as best I can.  I can self sponsor myself to go through a police academy if I must, so that I'm doing SOMETHING.  I have a part time job now and I'm guaranteed to have it after graduation (find me another person fluent in Chinese and Final Cut Pro in Colorado!), which is better than nothing.  No debt or other financial problems.  USAA offers a 25K loan to new commissioning officers with a low interest rate, which would definitely help fund my traveling all over the place to test in addition to my savings from work.


I'm not content to let my career or dream be defined by the whims of other people or changing circumstances.  Unless I'm bumped in a BOLC class to prep me for a deployment, I'm pretty sure I have time to finish the critical early stages.  All I have to do is convince a department I'm worth it - I already talked to one department that said some police officers have the option of deferring employment until next academy cycle to make room for military training.  Maybe it's a long shot, but it's a shot.  I came this far already.  No reason to quit now.


Thanks everyone.

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ChrisDeltaWhiskey says ...



.  Then again, I've heard of people being able to go to BCT/AIT and deployments while police officers.  Granted, they were already in as police officers, and enlisted.  Still.



 


True. Once hired as an officer and sworn, past FTO/PROBATION Period you cannot be terminated for  it. You must disclose it though.


""Life is a storm.. You will bask in the sunlight one moment, be shattered on the rocks the next. What makes you a man is what you do when that storm comes"
Alexander Dumas-The Count of Monte Christo

Wredcedar_max50

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Don't know how CO works, but you might see if you can become a reserve with some department.

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ChrisDeltaWhiskey, I cannot advise you specifically on your career pursuits as I lack the expertise.


I can only say I am struck by how markedly well-expressed you are in writing.  Well organized.  Impeccable.  I am sure you realize that  a combination of university level education and military experience is highly sought after in specific fields.


I hope you are considering all options as you plan a future in a law enforcement field that suits your abilities and interests.

Texas02n_max600_max50

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Stick with it and be patient! I know how frustrating it can be to get far along in the hiring process to get turned down for one reason or another. I have been a reserve officer for a little over 5 years now and am constatnly getting turned down for jobs. In my opinion, stay in school, self sponsor and see about starting a job as a reserve until after finishing your National Guard activities. It all looks good on your resume


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Becoming a reserve for a police or sheriff department is a good way to get your foot in the door. Keep that in mind and keep your options open. Good luck to you.


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When I was seeking a job I had two officers remind me that I am young. They told me there are many, many years ahead where a law enforcement job can be obtained. One of those officers was hired when he was 50 (he wasn't trying for years, just got in late). Don't worry if you have to wait a little while before you get in.