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Looking into Army MP, could use any advise I can get

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 I have been applying to different departments and have been hitting snags everywhere.  A lot of people (including officers I've rode with) have told me I should look into the military and I have recently felt that this might be not only a good idea, but my only option.  I've looked into different branches and the Army seems to be the best choice for me.  I know the service doesn't have to be as an MP but out of all the other careers that they have that one seems to be the only one that appeals to me.  Thing is, besides the reading on the websites, I don't know much of anything about Army MP (especially since all my friends are Marines, mainly infantry), so I really have nobody to talk to about it.


I've read some of the previous  postings and have gotten the gist of what the service is like (i.e. more combat than your usual LEO work) and I'm fine with that.  I'm just wondering if someone could give me info on things like training, (some info on BCT would be nice to, I know it's usually done at Ft. Leonard Wood and BCT is mixed with AIT), and anything else that you feel I need to know about it.


I will say this, I am aware of my size/weight and that is most certainly being worked on.  I've already lost a little bit of weight (the close together holidays aren't helping though) and still giving 150% to continue to get into shape.  With the requirements it seems I need to lose close to, if not more than, 100 lbs; so I have some time till I am even eligible (if I lose it in a healthy manner).


Any and all advise is welcomed, especially if you have any tips on losing all that weight in a fairly quick manner.

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Somebody posted a similar question a few months ago en re to Army M.P.'s.If you have to lose that much weight I would definately encourage you to do so.The rest they will most certainly work of you in basic.Unless the Army has changed vastly since I have been in you don't always get what you want.You will definately exchange heft for muscle and hustle in basic and whatever training you go into.Police Departments LOVE to hire vets and give them first preference.I wanted to be an M.P. when I was in but my father being a Colonel and my Uncle a Major General did NOT help.I was a medic.Just a hint.When I was in, Fort Leonard Wood(which is located some thirty five miles to my North-East) was nicknamed "Hell on Earth"

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 Thanks ssu459 for the reply.  Ya as much as it would disappoint me not to get MP I know there's other factors that determine what you will do, one being your ASVAB score.  I took it in High School (some 5-6 years ago so theyre no good and apparently the scoring is different so I'd have to retake it anyways) and got a 92 but I feel I could have gotten a higher score if I didn't spend so much time overthinking one question, running out of time, and christmas treeing the last 12 questions in that section.  I can't remember the individual ones but the paper is in the car because at some point I will eventually talk to a recruiter just to hear things from them.


I've never heard that nickname but then again most army videos I find are from Ft. Benning or Ft. Sill so that's why I have very little info on Ft. Leonard Wood.  I found their website and have just recently been scanning through it.


Also never knew family had an influence on your career path.  My uncle hasn't served in decades but maybe I might want to find out some things from him (if I can ever get ahold of him) in case it needs to be noted in history or if it would affect me at all.

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Hey bud first of all good luck in anything you do. If you wanna be a cop and are applying keep applying.


I was looking into the MP thing and heard a bunch of BS from a recruiter saying they do a lot of Police things. I then went to a MP with the same recruiter and the MP said that now a days MP are more of a security officer at a guard shack or on perimeter duty. You do get training and expierence in Law Enforcement but its Military law and enforcement. The MP told me that going infantry and learning the weapons and getting life expeierence and traveling would be better for someone wanting a career in LEO work.


Personally bud I would not advise you getting into Army MP work thinking your going to be out on the road as you would be if you were a State or County LEO. I heard its more of a shake a door knob, check and secure areas, like I said before now a days its more of a Security Service for the Military.


Apply to your Local, County or State LEO agencies or go Boarder Patrol if you really wish.

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 I'll keep that in mind bluelineapplicant.  The only other thing I think about is if I do go into the military, I'll probably try to make a career out of it.  Spend 20+ years in it.  I'm just tired of moving from job to job.

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Bud, I would join the Army only if I wanted to join the Army. You must be aware that as an MP, you are a professional infantryman, with occasional duties in security and detention. The reality is that your work as a Military Policeman has almost nothing to do with civilian policework. It's like comparing apples to oranges. Additionally, other than granting you veteran status, it will not assist you in gaining employment as a civilian policeman.


I spent over a decade as an Marine/Army infantryman (I've got the CIB and scars to prove it). First, I suggest you get in shape (develop the habits for lifelong health success ), Second, take the ASVAB (or whatever they're using now) and get a copy of your scores. Third, shop at EVERY branch of the military and see what jobs (MOS) they offer and MAKE NO COMMITMENT TO JOIN ANY OF THEM. Fourth, strongly consider the jobs that are offered based on your scores and select the job that has the most technical training that sounds the most interesting. Finally, sign up for the service and job you want, enroll in the GI Bill, start a savings account and put as much money in as possible (for the inevitable day you want to get out!!)


Good luck!

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When I was in the Army a couple years ago, MP's were not in any guard shack or doing perimeter security. MP's are given full police equipment and duties as law enforcement. They conduct their job just as an officer would in his beat. They take calls, do traffic stops and other military related activities while on the base. You get the best training as an MP that will carry on into your law enforcement career. I say take it! When you do go to basic its called OSUT, One Station Unit Training. which means that you do not graduate after 9-10 weeks, you get a little break then head right into your MP training. The Army is the best in my opinon. 


Dayngerus, why wouldn't an MP job assist him in going civilian law enforcement? That's a bunch of bs if I ever heard of. I know hundreds of local, state, federal leo's that have been MP's. In matter of fact MP's would be my first pick to come to my agency. 


You wouldn't go in there for a million bucks...A Cop does it for less...A Reserve does it for free....

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Stryker, my response was not meant as a slight to the MP Corps. It was and is only my opinion (and advice).


The job of the Army (and any of the other military services) is to fight war in theatre. In theatre, the MP will conduct security, detention and force protection etc... Given the last decade of war and the unlikelihood of not being engaged in a foreign conflict for the foreseeable future, a new MP will most likely work in theatre. It is only during peacetime operations, that MP on a military post handle some of the basic police tasks, but, the criminal investigations, if any, are minimal. The military has a strictly defined rank structure and code of conduct and the vast majority of people an MP encounters will adhere to both.


A civilian police officer on the other hand is an investigator at EVERY level. Some investigations are simple (like a larceny) and some are complex (like an arson/murder). In smaller departments, the street cop IS the investigator who, for example, could go from dealing with a fraudulent check one day to a multiple murder the next.  Being able to run a road block or write a ticket does not prepare someone for being an investigator.


Military servicemembers make better police officers. The discipline, physical training and esprit de corps goes a long way to preparing a person for civilian police work. But MP work is not the same, any more than being a protection, security or loss prevention officer.


Simply because YOU would hire a former Army MP as your first pick doesn't give him the full picture (and reality) of hiring processes for the majority of departments.

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Yes, join the army. My son wanted to look at law enforcement and I didn't think it would be a good fit so I encouraged him to join the military. He is 5 years from retirement and is an E-7. Best to you. Some of the retired military personnel can guide you regarding a contract. Go for it.

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I'm retired Military Police both enlisted and officer and its a great place to start. To assist with your getting into shape there is a site called Military.com and I would suggest going there and reading up on OSUT (One Station Unit training) and it has tips for getting prepared for the military. These tips are geared for both physical and mental prep and that is where you need to start. You already got the gang here at PL for additional support.

If you are looking for a more Police than combat role then the Air Force, Coast Guard and perhaps the Navy Law Enforcement branches may be a place to check as well? I say this because when making a serious decision such as you are undertaking, then you should look at all of the branches and see if the training they offer is better geared for what you are envisioning your eventual LEO career to become. Best of luck to you in your pursuit...

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ssu459 says ...

Somebody posted a similar question a few months ago en re to Army M.P.'s.If you have to lose that much weight I would definately encourage you to do so.The rest they will most certainly work of you in basic.Unless the Army has changed vastly since I have been in you don't always get what you want.You will definately exchange heft for muscle and hustle in basic and whatever training you go into.Police Departments LOVE to hire vets and give them first preference.I wanted to be an M.P. when I was in but my father being a Colonel and my Uncle a Major General did NOT help.I was a medic.Just a hint.When I was in, Fort Leonard Wood(which is located some thirty five miles to my North-East) was nicknamed "Hell on Earth"

I referred to it affectionately as Fort Lost in the Woods. It was great place though and I revisit often. The only place better was Benning...

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Absolutely correct csiguy.I find it to be a fine place.I have heard it refered to that also.I did my time at Dix,Ft. Sam and D.C.Many other locations as well when I was a dependant.I found the service to be quite a bit like Police work,a great deal of nonsense and a great deal of joy.I wouldn't trade either life for anything else.

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I was an Army MP and I have zero regrets. There are places, mostly stateside units, where you would do some regular LE duties and 1 or 2 overseas. But for the most part it is a combat arms MOS. If you decide to do it I make the following recommendations....


A) Tell your recruiter that following AIT you want to go to either Airborne or Air assault school. This will help with points towards promotions.


B) Pick a language you like and tell him you also want to go to the language school. In depth school but well worth it for a second language.


Both of these CAN be written into your contract so don't let them tell you it can't. It may adjust your ship date to Basic so all school date line up but to try after you reach your first duty station is difficult. Take advantage of all the training you can get that will help both your military and civilian career.


If you can put some ice in a glass of bourbon I can drink it. If you can't I can still drink it.

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A big bump to DoubleT213.In the service and especially in your law enforcement career always volunteer for all the schools you can handle.You may not get all you request but it will display your willingness to learn and broaden your horizons.

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 Bump to DoubleT213, get those schools in your contract if you want to do those. That is what I did when I enlisted. I told my recruiter that I was walking out the door and going next door to the airforce if he wasn't going to put airborne and air assault in my contract. Needless to say it was all put in. The Army has a lot of schools to offer if your not interested in jumping out of planes and repelling out of heliocopters. Their are millions just do some research. 


You wouldn't go in there for a million bucks...A Cop does it for less...A Reserve does it for free....

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I'm an AF Security Forces guy I do know quite a bit about the life as an Army MP. I feel bad for those dudes, but on the upside as an MP and you'll hear this again and again 'you're better then every one else!'

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mccune83 says ...



I'm an AF Security Forces guy I do know quite a bit about the life as an Army MP. I feel bad for those dudes, but on the upside as an MP and you'll hear this again and again 'you're better then every one else!'



Come on, I'm trying to become more humble; that's just adding fuel to the fire lol.

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haha, no but in all honesty I think its a great idea. MP is a tremendous MOS and its a very diverse career

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 Very true mccune83, that's what I kind of like about it.  Because lets say I don't make a career out of the military and end up trying to get into the Feds.  Not only will I have military but they also like SPECIALIZED law enforcement, not just writing tickets and babysitting DUI's.