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Posted over 2 years ago

 

Has anyone ever used this baton on the job? I know it looks a little goofy, and could easily be mistaken for a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle weapon, but it looks very effective for police work. I think if I ever get on the job, I would want to carry this baton for protection. I would love to hear anyone's thoughts. I'm not able to post the web site, or youtube video, so try googling it and check it out.

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I wouldn't waste my time or money purchasing this.  And is that really the way the manufacturer suggests carrying it???


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Why wouldn't you waste your time or money? As far as I can tell, (and I'm no expert by far) it looks a lot easier to access it in a life or death situation, and it doesn't get in your way when you are chasing a perp. What things do you look for when choosing a baton to carry?

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The way the manufacturer suggests carrying it does not look comfortable when sitting, makes you look like you have a tail when you're walking and it would appear as though you have to literally reach around your back to get to it. Naturally, the manufacturer will say how great it is, compared to other products in order to get a sale.


In the beginning of the video, an officer responds to what appears to be a burglary in progress or maybe a fight in a house (woman screams, glass breaking). He comes in, lights & siren, parks in the driveway of the house, runs towards the house, but stops to return to his car to get his baton??? Doesn't work that way. (just saying)


I'm personally not crazy about the collapsible, either. Once it's extended, it won't fit back into your holder until it's retracted. That could prove to be cumbersome when you're in the midst of a fight.


I prefer my old oak straight stick.


 


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Oh, and in a life or death situation, my baton would be the last thing I would think about grabbing.


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Oh, and in a life or death siuation, my baton would be the last thing I would think about grabbing.


Haha I like your last response! I guess  I would just have to try it out before I passed judgement on it. Thanks for your input

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Not a problem. Just keep in mind, this is one officer's opinion.


Oh, and I did go back and correct my spelling and grammatical errors - lol. Should have done some proofreading before I hit submit :)


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I watched the promo video and its a good thing I was amused because that's 6 minutes of my life I'll never get back!

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 haha....yah, it's pretty cheesy

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this isnt something i would carry

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jaywalk23 says ...



Why wouldn't you waste your time or money? As far as I can tell, (and I'm no expert by far) it looks a lot easier to access it in a life or death situation, and it doesn't get in your way when you are chasing a perp. What things do you look for when choosing a baton to carry?



Life or death situations should be treated as such and more appropriate tools used


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Rate This | Posted over 2 years ago

 

I watched a 17 year old video and it still has taken off. Kind of suggests how it's held up to real world trials.


I use a beveled edged cocobolo baton


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That's a beautiful looking wood baton! I just googled it. I think I would have to get myself one of those when I get on the job!

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I just sent my wife an emai and told her, that's something she could get me for a graduation gift from the academy, if I ever get on. That's something I would pass down to my kids.

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Rate This | Posted over 2 years ago

 

It will depend on your agency policy and if they allow you to carry this option.  It's not up to you necessarily, unless your agency head allows you to purchase and you can qualify on your less lethal options.  Much of the time it's the same with the firearm or issued equipment; you may get choice or you may not.  Keep an open mind and train to use what you are issued and use it well.  Good luck...

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Good to know...Thanks for the good advice

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Rate This | Posted over 2 years ago

 

 I don't carry a baton at all. I carry a taser, which allows me to stun somebody from a distance, instead of getting close enough to hit them with a stick. Since the taser, the only thing I've used a baton/for is breaking windows. 


Another thing too.....make sure you get to know your state's use of force law and your department's policy on use of force. I don't know of an agency in the world that would meet deadly force with anything less than deadly force. If it's life or death, you won't be grabbing a baton.

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Electronic devices are prone to failure. Cops are becoming overly dependant on Taser. It seems to fail almost as often as it works


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 I agree with you about the over dependancy on the taser. Our judge and lawyer up here seem to like it more than hitting people with the baton, though. Our county attorney cringes every time she sees a report where an officer used his baton to strike somebody. I like to keep up on my defensive tactics. A lot of officers stop using them after the academy and just hope 50,000 volts will do the job. 


No one tool is perfect in any situation. We just have to be sure to know which one to grab at what time and be ready for plan b.

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This always worked for me.   It really does not matter what you want to carry.  The agency decides and trains you and you can not carry anything else.

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Rate This | Posted over 2 years ago

 

OK I just checked this thing out on U Tube.  I don't care for it or the way it is carried.   Over the past 38 years I have been trained in the straight stick, the PR 24  or TJ Hooker special, the ASP and the Kubaton.  Of all of them I will stick with my straight stick with the leather strap.  When used properly, and that includes the proper use of the strap as a restraint, it can't be beat.    Just my 2 cents.

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 I just watched the video as well. The video is from 1995. I hadn't heard of the Rapid Rotation Baton until now. Something that has been around for 16-17 years + should be a bit more popular if officers found it to be a valuable tool. Most officers that I know of carry the collapsable. 

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I think the part of the video I liked the most, is when the officer was training with it, and he was placed in the choke hold. He was able to manuver himself in such a way as to pull the baton out from his back and poke the perp in the gut. I think the reason it may not be so popular is because of the way it's carried and the design of the handle. It looks a little goofy, but I would love to try it out. Just remember...How many years have they been telling us that smoking is bad for your health. It took many years to jump on that band wagon too.

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Rate This | Posted over 2 years ago

 

Jaywalk 23, I'm sure someone has already said this, but I haven't read all of the posts. Don't get too excited over gimmick tools. The only tools that you will carry when and if you get hired are the tools that your department has approved for you to carry.


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Rate This | Posted over 2 years ago

 

 Jaywalk, if somebody had me in a chokehold, I would consider that deadly force. He wouldn't be getting my baton, he'd be getting something with a little more "bang". But like coshane said, your department will dictate what you carry any way. I'd be willing to bet the rapid rotation baton is not something that will be on your duty belt.

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I can't imagine it would be on the list of things to carry. Especially since I've never seen anyone in my area carrying one. I can also see what you mean by that being a deadly force situation. I hardly doubt a baton would be the first thing I pulled either.

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 I am a Lieutenant with the Federal Bureau of Prisons. I have used and seen this baton used in the line of duty. I can't speak in regards to a Police Officer on the streets as you gentlemen obviously walk a different beat and face very different challenges in your line of work. However in a prison setting  this is an OUTSTANDING tool for those of us behind the wall when used properly and within policy. I far prefer it over a PR-24 or 36 inch riot baton because it is much less cumbersome and can be used in much more confined spaces. I am an instructor with this tool as well as the afore mentioned batons but clearly a tool is only as good as the education  and proper knowledge of its user. And no I do not and am not an endorser of the company that manufactures it I am just an end user and instructor and I very much love the design and proper use of this tool in regards to Officer safety and protection. My officers safety ALWAYS comes first and foremost.