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Fallen and can't get up. Seeking words of encouragement.

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Last July of 2006 I got out of the Army after serving almost 9 years of service and doing 2 tours to Iraq as a Military Police officer mainly for my kid's. It was too hard for my wife to try to be a single parent when I was deployed and the burden it caused especially during the birth of my son with no support. It hurt me so much to be thousands of miles away from home to call home to talk to the wife and kids only to be asked "Daddy, when are you coming home?' Are you Alright? because of what they seen on t.v. on the war of Iraq. So being a Military Police with the training skills, I was hoping that it would land me in a career field that I once had a dream of becomming. A police officer or speciality field dealing with law enforcement. Prior to getting out in Washington we disscussed to move to Arizona while keeping in contact with a recruiter at the Mesa PD. for the posibilities of a future with their department. I passed the written exam, had an oral board, passed the physical test, conducted a background interview, took the poloygraph, all the way towards the ending of their hiring process which consisted of a pysch.test and then medical before a conditional hire offer. After going through the Psych. and feeling that I have done well with everything and feeling good about myself, I received a call the following afternoon from the recruiter stating that I did not pass and that they would keep my application on file up to one year and could reapply. I was totally lost for words and tried to ask for an explanation and I was told that they could not disclose any information. Recently I took on a job in corrections where I had to go through a academy and graduated top honor grad with an over all of 100% was promoted to SGT. over my peers and am a shift sgt. at a prison that houses over 900 inmates. With that being stated, only to give you an idea of my character reference. I try to maintain the Army trait that of an NCO, (BE,KNOW, DO) qualities of leadership I once possessed for that hunger to strive to be the best. Now I have lost that backbone. Need some advice so that I could still have hope of pursuing a career of becomming a police officier or a special agent.

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I can't give you any advice because i am not qualified too...However i can tell you to keep your head up and don't give up on yourself!!! As a side note also i would like to thank you for what ou have done for your country!!! My prayers will be with you as you continue your journey! God Bless and Good Luck!

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Thank you for your service. I'd have to agree with Jenn.

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cld, the old saying do not put all your eggs in one basket is more than just a saying. There is truth in that saying. If one department turns you down, there are more in the area. If they turn you down there are 49 other states that you can go to who are looking for fine police officers. I too dreamed of a law enforcement career in Arizona. I tested for several departments in the Phoenix area and was met with disappointment in many different phases of the process. I left the state and applied in Los Anegels and have been having a very sucessfull career. I know that it is disheartening but don't give up.

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cld, I also want to thank you for your service-- in the military and as a CO, which is also an honorable profession.

Having said that, I accept that being a CO is not what you were hoping to do, and you are looking to become a police officer on the outside. I am not an officer, others will be able to give you better information than I, but I can give encouragement. I have spoken to MANY officers who started out in corrections; and your military service is a plus, as well. So it seems to me like you are well along on the road.

I have a question on your behalf, that I would like to ask the cops here: Having accepted this position, how long is cld honor-bound to work in it before looking for a move to be an officer? Is there anything cld should be doing in the meantime, to make imself more attractive as a candidate?

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The only advice I can give is to pursue a BA degree if you do not already have one. It does not have to be in CJ, though it is a plus. Perhaps a BA in management or business with a minor in CJ. States vary as far as what they require and want, but a BA is always good for the resume. Also, look at putting yourself through a police academy. Many departments will not pay for you to go through the academy, or cannot afford to do so. There are generally certain prerequisite classes in order to attend the academy, so look into completing those courses as well. You can also contact some LE departments in the area and try to set up a few ride-alongs if your schedule allows it. This will help you to build contacts with officers and LE in general, and could lead to "Letters of Recommendation" for your resume as well. Ride-alongs also give you the chance to see what patrol is like in civilian life, and can serve as a motivator to spur you on toward your dreams. Finally, try to find any seminars on LE training that might be open to attend. If you show a department you are actively trying to better yourself, it makes you look all the better.

Most of all, thank you for your service and everything you have done. I know the Army life is not easy, and you devoted 9 years of your life to it's service. I am happy you have the chance to be with your loved ones, and that you made it through your service safely. Congratulations, and good luck with your LE career!

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chin up cid....persistence cid persistence.... think about it, everyone in law enforcement has had to take that first step into the police world. I'm sure there is not a peace officer that has got the job on their first try. Tip.... if you can go the police academy on your own, you will be peace officer certified, try to get into a reserve program with a PD or SO build your experience and go from there. Remember we(peace officers) have been there once or twice...Good Luck...Oh yeah, hats off, salute for your service....Gulf War Veteran (Desert Storm/Shield USMC).....

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CID, hope we aren't getting repetitive....but thanks for your service, for real. I can't add much to what the others have said accept to relate a similar story which may give you a boost;

I started in auxiliary service myself. I had a buddy back in the day, also an auxiliary in our local department, who wanted nothing more to become a state trooper. This was difficult to say the least, civil service and political to boot. John never gave up. He entered the state employ as a CO at the toughest prison in our state, just to get his foot in the door. I can't remember exactly how long, but he kept at that for three to five years, all the time keeping himself quietly in the face of whoever it was he had to go through to get on the SP. End result: I lost touch with him over the years, but when last I knew John was wearing the uniform of a Mass State Trooper.

I don't have to tell you (but I'm going to, the Captain always said the narrative was too long on my reports :-) ), you are dealing with the absolute scum of the earth day in and day out where you are now as a CO. It was tough for John (a HELL of a nice guy) to not be affected by it. A bunch of us quietly talked about it back then as we watched him, concerned that maybe he was getting TOO tough and TOO cynical. DON'T let the scumbags affect who YOU ARE. Keep your eyes on your goal and you will attain it.

Best of luck brother.
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cld, I think that you will find that different agencies operate in different ways. Your resume is impressive, but sometimes it takes more. Do not be down, their loss is another department's gain.

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having been responsible for hiring officers in the past i can say that it is not that you failed, just that they were looking for someone else, also this is a politically charged field..from what i see and if you are stating fact then all you lack is being in the right place at the right time...keep in their face ask if you can ride along at how ever many departments are in your area... be asertive but not bothersome..as a co you should be meeting police officers. if so talk shop whenever they are not busy...i come from a military family and can say that it takes some time to adjust to civilian life. i have worked with alot of prior military that took sometime to learn that there is a big differance in being local law and military law....it is hard to be a hard charger and laid back at the same time.

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that was close to what i said. what i really said was WHEN i get my foot in the door.not if.

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Cld: I'm not a LEO but in the private sector you can be over-qualified for a postion. Management has to look at things as job performance, cost effectiveness, ect for the workplace as a whole. You could look at this as not a rejection but an opportunity to find the right position for you.


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Yo cld, look at this challenge like you looked at every other challenge you faced during your military career. Look that son of a buiscut eater in the eye, wink and tell him to bring it. You didn't lose the backbone, you lost the effort. I am sure that at some time while you were in the Army, you heard "the only easy day was yesterday". Stop the self mutilation, stiffen that lip, get back on that horse and ride. Once you get in the brotherhood, you will be glad that you had to work hard to get the job. It is very satisfying to look at the "golden child" of the department and tell them that you EARNED where you are. Good luck to you, the effort it takes is worth it.