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Becoming An Undercover Police Officer

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I've been doing some research on how to become an Undercover Police Officer lately with no such luck.  The whole reason I want to become one is because you get to have a job on the side of your choice..basically make a living and respond to tips (at least thats what I've been told by people that did it) so I'm planning on using the GI Bill to go to college while being an Undercover Cop so that way I'd be getting a college degree and working my dream job at the same time..I do realize that this job is especially hard with family and requires a lot of mental preperation..Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

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First you need to be hired by a police department.  Next you have to make probation and become a patrol officer.  Then after three to five years on the job maybe you get a chance to work in an undercover capacity.  Cops who work undercover have the same duties and responsibilities as every other officer.  That means you will work 40 plus hours a week, holidays and weekends.


Yea all in all it's a piece of cake.


Been there done that, now I'm a detective which is an even easier job

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Listen to mmmm. You are getting way ahead of yourself. Possibly to much TV.

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It just seems like a waste of years to do that though.  Maybe that's just me but having all older undercover cops doesn't seem very smar.   Don't they ever want younger undercover cops? And I don't watch crime shows or really any tv at all so I'm not really getting this from tv.  Mainly my dad who was an undercover cop..but all he told me was he had two jobs and that it really sucked and it was dangerous.  Plus he had to actually serve the jail time for any crime he committed to keep his criminal status.

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Huh....

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Which parts that to?


Your already 21 or older when done with the police academy and you have to do 3-5 years as a regular cop so your 24-26 when you can first start becoming an undercover cop...That seems old.  Why wouldn't you want a younger looking undercover cop?  And when my father was an undercover cop he said any crime he got caught doing he had to serve the jail time for(Not on his record though) in order for him not to look like he's an undercover cop which makes since to me..You can't be doing a crime and getting out on the streets the next day..That would be suspicious.

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It just seems like a waste of years to do that though.  Maybe that's just me but having all older undercover cops doesn't seem very smar.   Don't they ever want younger undercover cops? And I don't watch crime shows or really any tv at all so I'm not really getting this from tv.  Mainly my dad who was an undercover cop..but all he told me was he had two jobs and that it really sucked and it was dangerous.  Plus he had to actually serve the jail time for any crime he committed to keep his criminal status.



Listen to your Dad, being an undercover cop is not the job for you.  You should just go straight to SWAT Commander, Chief of Police or maybe even Attorney General.  No need for you to go through the normal route of earning the position (sarcasm intended).


You need to pay attention to the advice already given by the membership here.  As for being an Undercover Cop, it is a very dangerous and potentially deadly kind of police work.  We want experienced officers who have proven themselves to be the ones doing the job.  Many of these experienced officers are in their 20's and can easily pass for someone much younger.  If your Dad was a police officer then you should KNOW that you cannot just walk in the door and be an Undercover Cop (or at least he should KNOW that).


As for your Dad having to serve the jail time for any crimes he committed to maintain his "Criminal Status", like a collander or a seive, that just does not hold water.  Undercover Cops who cross the line and commit crimes are no longer Undercover Cops, they are criminals and are treated as such. Your story does not make sense and lacks credibility!


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Advice was noted..Being a dick..not so much.  And yes I'm lieing about having a father that was a police officer.  You caught me.

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I didn't say that your father wasn't a cop, I did say that your story lacked credibility as far as him having to serve jail time. As a veteran LEO with 30+ years experience I have never heard of any officer having to actually serve time for crimes he committed during the course of his UC work. And I have worked in most aspects and units of Law Enforcement, from Police Academy administration to SWAT Deputy Commander.  In fact committing crimes would not be permitted by the agency or the attorneys overseeing the UC's work. 


  As far as "being a dick", you come in here expecting us to tell you that you can just walk in to a PD and become asUndercover Cop, and that YOU don't think that "Older Cops" should be Undercover Cops (but for some reason YOU should). You will not get the response that you want because there is no easy way to becoming an Undercover Cop.


If YOUR father was an Undercover Cop then HE has the inside scoop on that job and their should be no need for YOU to be asking us how you can go about it.  Law Enforcement is a Career, not a HOBBY, and the training and dedication required to do the job full-time is something that must be accomplished so that the officer, and those he works with, can do the job in the safest and most professional manner possible.  Short cuts get us killed, lack of training gets us killed, Putting inexperienced "young" cops into dangerous situations get us killed!


 


 


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I never stated "Older cops" should not be Undercover Cops. Although as my opinion I do believe it would be smarter to enlist both younger men and women as well as the older ones. The older you are the harder for it is to bust the younger crowd. My father was older when he was undercover. He only did it for his last 3 years on the job and I don't know what he meant but he said he had to go to an agency and they hired him...not the police force that he was working with. Yes my father would have more answers to my questions if he were still alive..however he is not. I asked all these questions to him when I was still in high school because I always knew that I wanted to do this as my profession. Not to mention I've been in "Training" since I've been 18 so I'm not too worried about taking short cuts and I am in no way inexperienced as you would think

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Retleo's advice is spot-on.  Your story just ain't holding water.  Anybody wanna call bovine fecal excrement?

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From what I've read, you don't have what it takes to be a LEO. You'd be much better off being an informant and "playing" undercover cop.


You can't take advice you don't like.


You can't take constructive criciticsm.


You have an ego that is too big for the law enforcement profession. Especially if you want to be undercover.


You disrespect veteran LEO's who have been there, done that.


You want sound advice from veteran LEO's? You've come to the right place.


You want people to tell you what you want to hear and play your fantasy with you? Go elsewhere.


You've got some growing up to do. My best of wishes to you.


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I call it fishing in the dark....think I will  get out the pop corn...

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Folks, time to put your hip waders on as the BS is getting deep. Walk right in to UC? I guess folks were right when they said it isn't WHAT you know but WHO you know to advance in this career. Give me a break.


You can't cure stupid.

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TurnerGOFP says ...



Which parts that to?


Your already 21 or older when done with the police academy and you have to do 3-5 years as a regular cop so your 24-26 when you can first start becoming an undercover cop...That seems old. 


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That's old???  Bwahahahahahahaha... hahahahahah... breath.. ok,  hahahahahahahahahahahaha, breath... hahahahahahahahahaahahahaha


 


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TurnerGOFP says ...



Which parts that to?


Your already 21 or older when done with the police academy and you have to do 3-5 years as a regular cop so your 24-26 when you can first start becoming an undercover cop...That seems old. 


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That's old???  Bwahahahahahahaha... hahahahahah... breath.. ok,  hahahahahahahahahahahaha, breath... hahahahahahahahahaahahahaha


 



Well, somebody's gotta be on the inside of the supersecret illegal underage smoking/drinking mafia.  Those are some hardcore hombres, there. 

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I've seen enough. I'm calling "SHENANIGANS" to this whole thread.


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I call it fishing in the dark....think I will  get out the pop corn...



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GrayPanther says ...


Catwoman911 says ...



TurnerGOFP says ...



Which parts that to?



Your already 21 or older when done with the police academy and you have to do 3-5 years as a regular cop so your 24-26 when you can first start becoming an undercover cop...That seems old. 



***SNIP***



That's old???  Bwahahahahahahaha... hahahahahah... breath.. ok,  hahahahahahahahahahahaha, breath... hahahahahahahahahaahahahaha



 



Well, somebody's gotta be on the inside of the supersecret illegal underage smoking/drinking mafia.  Those are some hardcore hombres, there. 



Damn, I guess my time has passed.. I'm too freakin' old!  lol.. Well, at least I don't look it! 


 



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Hmmm, calling a well established and respected member of PL a dick.  You won't be here long, I suspect you will be sanctioned and will have to come back as a undercover member!  I guess you have your dream job now!

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"SHENANIGANS"  Yeapers, I agree!


 


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Yep Shenanigans!!! 


You wouldn't go in there for a million bucks...A Cop does it for less...A Reserve does it for free....

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wow this has been one interesting post, sounds like a scene from the movie the departed, no offense but the scenerios you have said seem way to extreme and maybe your father wanted to make his day seem much more interesting than it really was, kinda like telling a big fish story, there is too much danger to have an unexperienced person playing rambo (yes i know, not a good comparision) and being an undercover cop. Also just because you are older doesnt mean you look that age. I agree with the other posters, too much TV.....however I could use a liter O' cola .

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Here you go Blue!!! 


You wouldn't go in there for a million bucks...A Cop does it for less...A Reserve does it for free....

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Here you go Blue!!! 



ahhhh! that makes the day better haha thanks stryker!

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I will not be as nice as Retleo. First and foremost, you DO NOT call someone with that much experience and time as a police officer a Dick, period! To do so shows extreme disrespect and close-mindedness. NO UC has ever served time for committing a crime unless he actually DID commit the crime. At which point he was no longer a UC, he was a disgraced FORMER police officer who turned dirty. UC's CANNOT commit any crimes, period. They can buy drugs, stolen goods etc but they cannot initiate criminal acts oir actually participate in them.


You MUST be sworn Police Officer to become a UC. Many, many years ago before their were POST standards there were Occasionally some Officers that were or became UC officers but they were watched VERY closely for their 6 months to maybe as long as a year or two that they were UC and reported all the time. They also were NEVER allowed to commit any crimes or participate in any crimes that involved actions against people such as robberies, burglaries etc. They had to report those upcoming criminal acts IMMEDIATELY! Still, this type of UC was rare even back 40 years ago and is simply not done anymore, period. Being an UC Officer was also their ONLY paid job. They may be "working" as a store front buying stolen goods or something of that nature but they were never allowed to receive pay for any work they did. In other words say you may be a Store Clerk and everyone there thinks you are an employee of the store except the real store manager. You even get paid or receive a weekly paycheck just like everyone else. That money is put in storage and returned to the store after the assignment is complete. YOU do not get to keep it!


You are either someone who is very immature or gullible neither of which makes for a good or trustworthy UC of have been fed a bunch of BS from your Dad. Did he ever have to serve time and called it part of his job? If he did then he was fired because he was a dirty cop and was fired.


You need not respond as you probably will not believe me but Retleo is correct in all he said whether you believe it or not.

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Also mmmm has done this very recently so listen to him. I have been involved in this 30+ years ago and the rules have not changed all that much except getting tighter rules.

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Hey if you get a shot at going to an interview during your oral exam tell them the same story you just told us ok...for real..

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I'm sorry I missed this yesterday.


Hello my name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die.

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