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 ok see im 20 years old and my towns age to patrol is 18. how can i patrol im not even old enough to buy a pistol? i dont get this please explain  am i able to carry a gun am i by passed such as cops on cell phone etc.??????????????

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Don't know what state you are in but in some states (Georgia comes to mind) you can be a law enforcement officer at age 18.  Just because state statue permits 18 yoa's to be LEO's does not mean you will find any, though in the past I did encounter a cuple of 19 yoa GA LEO's.  They either have a parent  buy a pistol or are furnished one by their agency.

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 im in louisiana 

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Don't know about LA, ask Cat_D or Donnalynn they are both LA  LEO's.

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Here's a little history lesson to try to answer your question...


Law enforcement (and by extension, LE agencies) is a paramilitary organization. This means that many of the precepts and designs within the organization follow the model given by military establishments.


People who intend to join the military are allowed to do so at age 18. Their training includes physical strength training, psychological preparedness and, yes, the use and care of weaponry (in other words guns and ammo).


Ergo, if a person can be eligible to fly off to foreign countries, meet the indigenous people, learn their culture and values, and then blow them to bits at age 18 for their country, they should also be permitted to become law enforcement officers (provided they meet the requirements of the hiring agency - including being psychologically fit).


Hope this helps.


(Apologies to any veterans if my analogy offends them, I mean no disrespect to your service.)


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 thanks bignts


 

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Hi garrett0322,

Like Cedardale said, someone 21+ buys your weapon and ammo for you if your agency doesn't provide your weapon.  I know most S.O.'s start new hires out in the jail, no matter the age, unless they have prior experience as a LEO... sometimes even then they are placed working corrections until an opening is available on patrol.  New hires are sent through the academy and usually by then they are 21 when they hit the streets.

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In Texas, you have to be 21 years old to be a LEO.

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I'd like to think requirements to be a law enforcement officer on America's streets go far beyond what is merely expected of a soldier who follows orders in a theatre of war.  The extent to which an officer is expected to exercise discretion independently means mature judgment is paramount.  


We know our society's LEAs have become paramilitary in nature, but it seems there's still far more to the job.  I am glad for that.


 

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Hi garrett0322,

Like Cedardale said, someone 21+ buys your weapon and ammo for you if your agency doesn't provide your weapon.  I know most S.O.'s start new hires out in the jail, no matter the age, unless they have prior experience as a LEO... sometimes even then they are placed working corrections until an opening is available on patrol.  New hires are sent through the academy and usually by then they are 21 when they hit the streets.

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Explain this sentence:  i dont get this please explain am i able to carry a gun am i by passed such as cops on cell phone etc.??????????????


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To add to this, each agency has their own standard. I know  in my city the PD is 21 to attend the academy, but the SO is only 18. Like Donna said, you start in the jail with the SO so there is no issue about a weapon as you don't carry there !


In my agency one of the requirements is a BA degree the subs. is 8 yrs work experience, that kind of limits the # of 18 yr olds that can even apply !!!! LOL 


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I'd like to think requirements to be a law enforcement officer on America's streets go far beyond what is merely expected of a soldier who follows orders in a theatre of war.  The extent to which an officer is expected to exercise discretion independently means mature judgment is paramount.  


We know our society's LEAs have become paramilitary in nature, but it seems there's still far more to the job.  I am glad for that.



 I agree with you, Marly. The key in my original post was the ability to get through the background check, especially the psych.


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BigNTS says ...



MarlyB says ...



I'd like to think requirements to be a law enforcement officer on America's streets go far beyond what is merely expected of a soldier who follows orders in a theatre of war.  The extent to which an officer is expected to exercise discretion independently means mature judgment is paramount.  


We know our society's LEAs have become paramilitary in nature, but it seems there's still far more to the job.  I am glad for that.



 I agree with you, Marly. The key in my original post was the ability to get through the background check, especially the psych.



Exactly. In the Military you follow orders that are clear and specific and you are often under the direct supervision of a senior non-com or an Officer. As a Police Officer you are usually on your own and you are making life and death decisions ON YOUR OWN using your judgement. Of course I have always believed that if you are old enough to fight for your country you are old enough to vote and drink. I was in during the time that this was not allowed and I did resent it.


In SC you cannot become a sworn Officer until you are 21 as you cannot carry a weapon until then. We have had a few hired before they were 21 but they were records clerks or something else that did not need a weapon nor could they arrest anyone.


In Florida where I live now you CAN be an Officer at the age of 18 yrs old and possess a weapon. I honestly do not think an 18 yr old has the maturity to be an Officer.There are exceptions but few.

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Figured that, BigNTS.  I totally agree with the morality of the choice if we are going to ask eighteen year-olds to die for our country.  Practically speaking, though, in terms of the US civilian setting, I would be apprehensive.  Relationship to risk-taking, etc.  I dunno.  The idea makes me nervous.


Agree, Robocop on the voting and drinking - but not at the same time. lol  I've never liked the idea a soldier can lay his/her life on the line, yet not legally enjoy a cold brew.


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MarlyB says ...



I'd like to think requirements to be a law enforcement officer on America's streets go far beyond what is merely expected of a soldier who follows orders in a theatre of war.  The extent to which an officer is expected to exercise discretion independently means mature judgment is paramount.  


We know our society's LEAs have become paramilitary in nature, but it seems there's still far more to the job.  I am glad for that.



 I agree with you, Marly. The key in my original post was the ability to get through the background check, especially the psych.


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Military opinions having already been addressed I can only bump the psych factor.  Many states require the 21YOA due to maturity and the idea that by then most are pursuing education that will enhance the maturity factor and give tools to use in many life situations. 


As was said regarding under 21 YOA I would agree that there are those with extensive practical experience that can not be learned in a school house, so I don't begrudge the under 21 as an LEO. In some rural areas age is not a factor when called to do what is necessary in a moments need, just keep your head about you when all others around you are loosing theirs (Kipling).


If your agency permits you to qualify, train and carry your firearm you will in due time, some agency's use volunteers or explorers and empower them, but do not allow the firearm simply due to state law.  Either way the important thing to grasp is you have chosen to be a public servant and take on tasks that many young people would refuse to go into and that sir is worthy of a respectful slap on the back and thank you for your willingness to serve in whatever task or capacity you are ordered.  Be proud that you are serving and stand tall.  Thanks I was just runnin off at the mouth...

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 sry for not specifying but im city not so are state  

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garrett0922 says ...



 sry for not specifying but im city not so are state  



The state sets the requirements for being a LEO in terms of  age that can attend an academy and get certification, and cities can set a higher ( but not lower ) age to be a LEO in that city.  IE if the state minimum age is 21 a city cannot hire an 18 yoa to be a LEO.

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 This sounds like it might be something from the common laws back in the early 1900's. And no one has changed them yet or felt like changing them. Not sure if I totally agree with an 18 year old being envolved in law enforcement, even if its corrections. We are in different times, where police need to have more than just high school education. Another thing to think about is when you go to the academy most of the things being taught you will need to be a certain level of maturity and education. The last thing this country needs is teenager police officers out on the streets or in the jails, not like we have a bad name already with some of the screw ups that are already out there. 


Your best bet is if you want to get into law enforcement, join an explorer program near you. Get as envolved as you possibly can. While working as an explorer, go to college and get a degree of some kind. 


I agree with MarlyB. Law Enforcement qualifications need to be more than what the military sets as their standards. The citizens of this country diserve the best trained to assist them in a time of trouble.


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