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Blueline_max50

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Hey  fellow officers. I am looking to expand my toy collection with an AR-15. I have looked at reviews and all that fun stuff but I don't trust what I read all the time. What is the best gun in your opinion? What are your suggestions on make, barrel length, caliber, ect... that would be the best quailty for the price. I'm not the gun expert I just like shooting them! lol Thanks


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Also on a side note does anyone know about the Red Jacket Firearms AR-15? They are the company from the show Sons of Guns, not sure if there gun is good quailty or not.

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Colt or Smith & Wesson. 5.56. barrel length is your preference.


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Ditto.  Colt. 


They were down to around $600 plain jane a year ago. Now they are back up to $800-1000.


Red jacket or any custom name will cost you. Get a few stock ones first. You can never have too many AR's. Oh and buy up all the ammo for it allowed by law.  Trust me.


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Blueline_max50

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I have looked at the Colt and S & W AR-15's and I'm definately into their guns. I like the style and feel of it. They are good-feeling guns. The Red Jacket Firearms AR-15 is 1,100. Its definately a pretty sweet gun but haven't felt how it feels when holding it. At Cabela's and Scheels you can buy a good AR with red dot for the same price but I don't recall what brand. I'll have to see but I was thinking the Colt based on reviews. We will see... maybe time to go to the range to shoot it, just to make sure!

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"The RJF KMP-DI is a Direct Impingement gun, offered with the idea of you receiving a full featured Rifle from the start with the utmost reliability and our rock solid lifetime warranty! Carrier and internals are all Mil-Spec and the Bolt is fully MPI. The upper and lower receiver is forged from 7075-T6 aluminum, equipped with a either a 1:7 or a 1:9 Twist rate M4 profile chrome lined barrel and your choice of Magpul furniture colors. The gun ships with the Magpul CTR, MOE pistol grip and MOE forend, one Magpul MagLevel PMAG  included. Suppressor ready with our RJF suppressor flash hider and MBUS rear site included."


There is the info on the Red Jacket AR-15.


On redjacketfirearms.com under AR type rifles its the one in the middle

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If money is not an issue, I'd definatley go with a Colt. Eventually, I'll have one in my aresenal. Since money was an issue with me, I picked up a Bushmaster .223. Good gun!!


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French_chopper_seat_max50

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I know alot of fellow LEO's will harp on Bushmasters, but I'd go for several other makes before I'd take one of those.


I've qualified with/carried a Colt A2, Rock River Arms, and (since '07) a DPMS A-15.  I can strongly say, that I have had NO regrets with the DPMS.  It has been deployed on a continual basis for over the last four years with no problems. (Outfitted with an EOTech 512, Insight M3X tac light, CTD vertical foregrip, tac stock, and 3-pt tac sling...though I'll soon be switching out the last one to an older 2-pt.)


I think I just didn't take too well to some of the Bushmaster's functions and styling back when I was canvassing the market. You have to find one that fits you and fits your tactical requirements.


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If money is no object Colt is good.  S & W is not a bad gun but everyone I know who has owned one sold it within a year to buy something else. I don't know why, I have never had one. However, brand favorites aside here are things to think about.; acoording to most firearms instructors and AR-15 Armours I know the following are keys to a good to great weapon as oppossed to a "varmint" gun.....


Barrel marking for chambering in 5.56 (5.56 will handle .223, but this won't work the other way around.)


M4 Feed ramps


Fully shrouded firing pin


Black extractor insert


Staked gas key


These things are esential for a weapon that would be considered a fighting weapon. The only addition many make is a chrome lined barrel. This is NOT required if you clean your weapon properly. Chrome lining wears well but they are not quite as accurate as Chrome moly and do degrade over time. Chrome moly won't degrade it just takes remembering that once clean a small amount of oil must be run in the barrel.


Twist is a concern to many. 1/9 is perfectly fine for most cases in which you are using a 16 or 20 inch barrel with 55grn ball or 62 grn ball or hollow point. Anything heavier than that, especially over distances greater than 100 meters you want 1/7. Many shooters I know who hunt deer with 16 inch barrels and 69 - 74 grn ammo insist on 1/7 for the accuracy with the heavier round. But for 99% of LE applications (street level, not SWAT) 62 grn HP from a 16 inch barrel with a 1/9 twist will not fail you.


All that said now its up to you how much you want to spend. I own a DPMS and it serves me well, and is every bit as accurate as a Bushmaster or Colt. I have seen my firearms instructor (and SWAT team sniper) shoot his Colt and my Panther and the shot groups are identical at 100 yards. The difference between the 2 is mine was $800 not $1400. DPMS, Bushmaster, Colt, Armalite, or Rock River are all good weapons. Just check the staking, shrouding, markings, etc. Some are better than others. Rock River feed ramps are not as smooth as Colt, DPMS or Bushmaster, but they make a great 2 stage trigger. Do some research, handle the guns and see what you are willing to spend.


And don't ask the local gun store. Many will try to sell you the highest priced weapon as the best when it may just be the highest priced. Talk to range masters. Talk to armours. Good luck and good shooting.


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I several ARs, I have Bushmaster, Colt, Rock River, S&W,DPMS and Double Star, They all shoot great but each brands has its on quirks. The S&W shoots good but is very picking in the kind of ammo you use in it and certain types of mags don't function well in it either. My favorite is the Double Star shorty I have Ive put 10,000 rounds thru it and have 1 malfunction and that was a bent casing. The DPMS is 7.62 and shoot well but heavy. I also built 24" floated barrel AR with timminy trigger group Mag Pul stock and ergo grip and its Double Star parts except lower receiver housing and it a Mohawk Armory lower housing. One of the officer I work with makes these. But like its been posted here before depends on what you want to spend and the features you want, go out and find what fits you.

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Ahhh  mitrocop......Bushmasters, and DPMS, and several other AR's are all made in the exsact same factory.  The name of the company escapes me right now but they make AR style rifles for several brand names.  You can even exchange each others parts.  I have a bushmaster that I have used for 10 years in 3 gun compatitions.  It has tens of thousands of roounds through it with zero stopages.

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I recently came across a used Mega Arms AR15 for approximately $700.00 and because cost is an issue, I am seriously considering the purchase............ Any thoughts?

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PD135 says ...



I several ARs, I have Bushmaster, Colt, Rock River, S&W,DPMS and Double Star, They all shoot great but each brands has its on quirks. The S&W shoots good but is very picking in the kind of ammo you use in it and certain types of mags don't function well in it either. My favorite is the Double Star shorty I have Ive put 10,000 rounds thru it and have 1 malfunction and that was a bent casing. The DPMS is 7.62 and shoot well but heavy. I also built 24" floated barrel AR with timminy trigger group Mag Pul stock and ergo grip and its Double Star parts except lower receiver housing and it a Mohawk Armory lower housing. One of the officer I work with makes these. But like its been posted here before depends on what you want to spend and the features you want, go out and find what fits you.



Yeah the S&W is picky. My friend has one. My clips didn't feed well on it. I have a Colt and have never had a problem.


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Ahhh  mitrocop......Bushmasters, and DPMS, and several other AR's are all made in the exsact same factory.  The name of the company escapes me right now but they make AR style rifles for several brand names.  You can even exchange each others parts.  I have a bushmaster that I have used for 10 years in 3 gun compatitions.  It has tens of thousands of roounds through it with zero stopages.



JackWagon, you are close. While DPMS and Bushmaster do have the same parent company as Remington Arms (Cerberus Capital Management) these two branded rifles are not made in the same factory. The factory for Bushmaster,as well as Remington, is in Ilion, NY but DPMS is still in St. Cloud, MN...same place they were 20 years ago when they were founded. 


Remington also owns Marlin as of 2007 but they have yet to build a Marlin rifle on the AR platform. And as far as I can find Bushmaster and DPMS are the only AR platform rifles that records for Cerberus Capital Management show they build under any subsidiary.


As for exchanginf each others parts, you can do that with 95% of all parts from ALL brands, including Colt. All claim they are MilSpec. Now, truth be told the only way they can be 100% MilSpec is to be full auto as that is what Military Specifications call for. However, amny components of each are in fact built to MilSpec...Uppers, bolts, carriers, lowers, buffers, hand guards, etc. There are a few things different between some like the head shape of the receiver pivot pin, like on Stag Arms I believe; it may be Spikes. But other than little issues like that a colt barrel will fit a Bushmaster upper which fits a DPMS lower in which a Rock River 2 stage trigger assembly will fit. But then the question is, why would you? I would rather mine be 100% one brand or another. But thats me.


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PD135 says ...



I several ARs, I have Bushmaster, Colt, Rock River, S&W,DPMS and Double Star, They all shoot great but each brands has its on quirks. The S&W shoots good but is very picking in the kind of ammo you use in it and certain types of mags don't function well in it either. My favorite is the Double Star shorty I have Ive put 10,000 rounds thru it and have 1 malfunction and that was a bent casing. The DPMS is 7.62 and shoot well but heavy. I also built 24" floated barrel AR with timminy trigger group Mag Pul stock and ergo grip and its Double Star parts except lower receiver housing and it a Mohawk Armory lower housing. One of the officer I work with makes these. But like its been posted here before depends on what you want to spend and the features you want, go out and find what fits you.



Yeah the S&W is picky. My friend has one. My clips didn't feed well on it. I have a Colt and have never had a problem.



Yep mine was a gift from wife its the tactical AR, its just to picky for me. Now my colt was my first and also a gift from my wife and love it and would be last to go if I started getting rid of my arsenal.

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Gee I need a wife like PD135. My wife would never buy me an AR-15 good thing my boss loves me. He bought me a Bushmaster and I shoot it very well with my red dot site. Never had a problem with it and shot lots of ammo through it.


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Do not get an Olympic Arms. Be careful about Bushmaster they went through a short spell of less than good products years ago.


Depends on what you will use it for as to what barrel length.  I would get a flat top upper so you can add optics or not.  If you go with an A2 model your sighting options are limited.  Its easy to start with a base model and tweak it from there depending on what you find is useful for you. 


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DoubleT213 says ...



JackWagon says ...



Ahhh  mitrocop......Bushmasters, and DPMS, and several other AR's are all made in the exsact same factory.  The name of the company escapes me right now but they make AR style rifles for several brand names.  You can even exchange each others parts.  I have a bushmaster that I have used for 10 years in 3 gun compatitions.  It has tens of thousands of roounds through it with zero stopages.



JackWagon, you are close. While DPMS and Bushmaster do have the same parent company as Remington Arms (Cerberus Capital Management) these two branded rifles are not made in the same factory. The factory for Bushmaster,as well as Remington, is in Ilion, NY but DPMS is still in St. Cloud, MN...same place they were 20 years ago when they were founded. 


Remington also owns Marlin as of 2007 but they have yet to build a Marlin rifle on the AR platform. And as far as I can find Bushmaster and DPMS are the only AR platform rifles that records for Cerberus Capital Management show they build under any subsidiary.


As for exchanginf each others parts, you can do that with 95% of all parts from ALL brands, including Colt. All claim they are MilSpec. Now, truth be told the only way they can be 100% MilSpec is to be full auto as that is what Military Specifications call for. However, amny components of each are in fact built to MilSpec...Uppers, bolts, carriers, lowers, buffers, hand guards, etc. There are a few things different between some like the head shape of the receiver pivot pin, like on Stag Arms I believe; it may be Spikes. But other than little issues like that a colt barrel will fit a Bushmaster upper which fits a DPMS lower in which a Rock River 2 stage trigger assembly will fit. But then the question is, why would you? I would rather mine be 100% one brand or another. But thats me.


 


 


Thanks for the affirmation on that point, DoubleT, on which you have now enlightened JW -- there ARE some differences between Bushmaster and DPMS, and they are not made in the same factory.  But, JW, if Bushmaster works for you and your tactical needs, I don't fault you in the least for your choice.  For me, the Bushmaster models I inspected were slightly off from what I would expect for the price (plus, it didn't help that the Bushmaster sales rep started badmouthing Rock River, of which I don't own personally, but with which I have trained and combat-drilled for many hours/rounds and have been greatly impressed. Though, in the end, it turned out that the DPMS was the perfect fit and had the customizing options I wanted. So, I say:  "To each, his own," AKA "Whatever floats your boat!"     


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Have you looked at the FN SCAR 16 or 17 rifles?


   They are a big improvement over a traditional AR.

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KB3MMX says ...



Have you looked at the FN SCAR 16 or 17 rifles?


   They are a big improvement over a traditional AR.



Enough to justify 2-3X's the cost?


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Mines a Colt, agency issued, but I carried a version of the AR or M-16 A1 and 2 / M-4 throughout my military career and enjoyed the workings of all of them.  It kept me alive when the stuff hit the fan...

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Personal preference only, but I stay with something made to Mil-Spec standards.  There are a ton of AR-15 manufacturers out there now, and the quality definitely is not the same across the board.

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Wow...this system flagged my first response because of inappriate content....


Anyway, as I was saying.  If I was in the market for an AR(I'm not) I'd be looking at the piston rifles.  HK and the like.  Thank God that I made it out, but as a combat veteran I've experienced the thrill of being a member of the best trained and most sophisticated military in the world and throwing rocks at the bad guys because my rifle has experience a catestrophic failure.  That experience alone makes the price of these rifles worth it to me.  I'm no expert on the topic, and I'm not the firearms enthusiast I once was, but one thing I KNOW to be true is that they run cooler, and cleaner than any gas rifle is capable of.  Yes, they can and will fail as any man made product will.  However they are far less likely to do so than a gas system.  The streets are not a combat zone(getting closer everyday!) and a gas system may very well work under the conditions you see and experience.  However, if money were no object I'd hold out for one of those.


My 2 cents.


 


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