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Poll: What caliber sidearm do you carry?

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Poll: What caliber sidearm do you carry?

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a .45, because I can and there is virtually no chance the subject will do anything but drop like his strings were cut with my well placed shot to the head or heart. I don't miss, or at least enough to matter after being hit with the .45 ACP


 

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Robocop33 says ...



a .45, because I can and there is virtually no chance the subject will do anything but drop like his strings were cut with my well placed shot to the head or heart. I don't miss, or at least enough to matter after being hit with the .45 ACP


 



Now you'rejust showing off!! 


 


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Sig Sauer P229 in .40 S&W. We are getting a re-issue with the rail system for flashlights. Guess that means a new holster. I hate breaking in a new holster. But I would love a Desert Eagle in .44 mag as we have had one bad guy recently get tagged twice in the head and keep fighting. Never thought I would ever believe that would happen.

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9mm, two words...shot placement. I prefer a .40, best of both worlds. good stopping power, with good round capacity.

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radarboy says ...



Sig Sauer P229 in .40 S&W. We are getting a re-issue with the rail system for flashlights. Guess that means a new holster. I hate breaking in a new holster. But I would love a Desert Eagle in .44 mag as we have had one bad guy recently get tagged twice in the head and keep fighting. Never thought I would ever believe that would happen.



We had a guy take 2 slugs from a 12 guage in the chest at about 7-10 yards a few years ago.  He set his gun down, walked over to the side of the trailer house, talked for a minute.  Sat down, and talked to us as the medics were packaging him up.  He died about 15-20 minutes after being hit.  Caliber is not the ultimate answer.

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Well,I do know the secret handshake and I will NOT reveal it.I carried a 9 at one agency and a 357 at the next.I now carry a 380 and am real tired,I mean retired,well,BOTH.

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JackWagon says ...



radarboy says ...



Sig Sauer P229 in .40 S&W. We are getting a re-issue with the rail system for flashlights. Guess that means a new holster. I hate breaking in a new holster. But I would love a Desert Eagle in .44 mag as we have had one bad guy recently get tagged twice in the head and keep fighting. Never thought I would ever believe that would happen.



We had a guy take 2 slugs from a 12 guage in the chest at about 7-10 yards a few years ago.  He set his gun down, walked over to the side of the trailer house, talked for a minute.  Sat down, and talked to us as the medics were packaging him up.  He died about 15-20 minutes after being hit.  Caliber is not the ultimate answer.



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.357 SIG on duty, .45 ACP off duty.

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The one I was given it came with bullets (I think it is a 40 or 41 its hard to tell the plastic has melted in this heat)


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     .40 cal....  I prefer this load because it has greater stopping power than the 9mm and better magazine capacity than the .45 cal... so it kind of rates somewhere in the middle and is an ideal caliber for law-enforcement and military!

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Allow me to correct something. When I was working before I retired I carried a .38 revolver with lead HP +p's and it was six rounds. We learned shot placement so that you should be able to take down at least three people before you had to reload. <G> I am retired now and still shoot very well. I carry a .45 with jacketed HP's, the same round that the feds carry. In my weapon I carry 12 in the mag and 1 in the chamber so figure I can take on a good number before I need to quickly slap in another mag with 12 more rounds.


I still believe in shot placement. If I need more than that, I am in the wrong damn place for sure!

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Robocop33... good point about shot placement and I agree with you there. I also think that the .38 special (especially a hammerless) revolver is good to have as a backup. The only concern I have with the .38 special is over-penetration. I remember reading years ago that the US military used to use the .38 as their standard issue sidearm. That all changed after some conflict where we were fighting in the Philippines in the 1890's. The natives who we fought against used to use some type of narcotic/pain killer that was extracted from local plants and so shot placement combined with stopping power had to be considered. They said that the .38 special would go clean through the enemy's body and because of the lack of sensation/pain they would keep coming unless of course it was a kill-shot.     (This would be similar to having to use your weapon against someone on the streets in America who is high on methamphetamines, cocaine, or phencyclidine/PCP.)    So then the military started looking for something with greater stopping power that would cause a larger temporary wound cavity as well as a greater amount of shock absorption from having the bullet lodged in the body rather than to have gone through it. The energy transfer of the .45 ACP is superior to most other calibers and are even believed to cause a phenomena called "hydrostatic shock." This is where the fluid in your organs are effected so severely that they are caused to hemorrhage and will cause incapacitation almost instantly.


So yes, I also agree with your opinion about the .45 being a reliable service weapon!

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Smith and Wesson M&P 45 for duty side arm.  I also carry a Glock 27 on my ankle as a back up.  Never ever go to work without at least two weapons.  Off duty I carry the 27 for concealment purposes, with two spare magazines.  Prior to getting my 27 I carried a S&W .38 lightwieght revolver.

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.40 cal issued in my department.  

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.40 cal department issued

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Porch, the problem with our .38's was that they would not penetrate much of anything! They would usually bounce of windshields and when I fired point blank, less than two feet away from a rear tire in an attempt to stop a suspect from fleeing the round literally bounced off the tire sidewall! It was a terrible round and we used a round nose for most of my career. Now my Dept. did fire at five suspects during my time there. Four of these suspects died right there and the fifth actually was struck twice in the middle of his chest with one round hitting his heart, and he is the one that lived. All of these guys were shot with either a single round or a double tap. Shot placement!


I also think that was one of the reasons my Department had so few Officer involved shooting because the bad guys knew that if they did not immediately stop what they were doing we would shoot them and they would die, period. Not so in most places now as you see Officers firing 15-30 rounds and maybe hitting the suspect once or twice and wounding them because the Officers now tend to spray and pray with the autos and the high cap magazines. Too many shooting are the end result as they are no longer afraid and hope to get away. Serious training and practice should be required with quarterly qualifications required. Thats right, qualifications four times a year mandatory!


 

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Robocop33, thanks for the info on the .38 special! Wow!! I wasn't aware of those kind of problems with that caliber. I don't have much experience with it and only know what I've read. I'm not too suprised though about the problem with bullets bouncing off tires, etc. since a lot of that has to do with the angle of trajectory and also the kind of load you were using. You have much more experience than I do and I'm sure that you also know more about the .38 special than I do. You make a very good point about police these days using high-cap mags and using the old spray and pray method of gunfighting...lol. It makes a lot of sense though to put added emphasis on shot placement. As technology changes as far as weapon design and capability, so too does the psychology of warfare and gunfighting change along with it. These days it seems that individual skill and marksmanship doesn't matter as much as who can pull the trigger fastest or whos weapon can carry more rounds. Your posts and emphasis on shot placement really does make me think...and re-think what I've been taught.


So many times I've seen on the news about wanna-be gangsters doing drive-by shootings and missing their intended targets only to gun down innocent children who happen to be playing in the area. They just point their weapon in the general direction of the victim and open fire not caring who or what they hit. I imagine it would be easy if you had no training or skill with a firearm to just fire a burst from a fully automatic AK-47 or something like that and hope that you hit something and win the gunfight. People like that are more dangerous (in my opinion) than those that have specialized training becuase you never know who they will kill. The same thing applies to police officers, if they lack proper training and have poor shot placement then when/if they ever have to use their pistol they might just as well gun down innocent people in the immediate area. On the other hand if an officer spends plenty of time at the range practicing he is more likely to be on target with almost every shot in a real life situation and lessen the chances of injuring civilians.


I think that a very big problem these days is that criminals are better equipped and have access to military grade weapons and things that the police don't have. Especially after the dissolve of the former Soviet Union there has been an enormous amount of Soviet military surplus on the black market. I believe that our officers need to be better equipped so that they can deal with this new kind of criminal with high-tech weaponry. Well, thanks for the reply...I enjoy having discussions like this with people who really know what they're talking about. I can learn a lot from a quick debate, lol.

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40 caliber

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.40 caliber. Basically, our firearms instructor was given the task of choosing a semi-auto for us to transition into after we retired our old .357 mags. After much research, he decided the best option for us would be the .40 cal. Since then, we've been through several different .40s the latest being the H&K Model P2000. I know a lot of people prefer Glocks but the H&K fit our budget and performance constraints.



I don't like the trigger pull on the P2000 at all, and have always wondered how it ever got selected as an agency weapon.

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40, i think its a good round with good stats.

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I liked the .40 cal., however the department said 9mm or .45 cal.  I carried the 9 mike mike and is saved my life.  So I was happy with it.

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I'm retired now so I carry a 38 cal 2 inch S&W, or a 380 depending on what I am wearing.   When I was active we went from 38 to 9mm and then to 40 cal.

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 9mm Walther P5. Because we are not alowed to carry another gun/caliber.


Soon we will have the Sig Sauer P250 DCc 9mm


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 I carried a .45 then a .40 when my badge said Police on it. When I started carrying for myself I chose the 9mm because I shot it straight, well and quick and I realized I couldn't call for a bunch of other friends with guns to come play. I chose the Glock 19 because I was familiar and comfortable with the platform, it was lightweight and hid well.

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.40 and I also voted for it.

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I actually bought a Sig 9mm earlier this year, and after it locked up on me a few times, and ended up getting a casing stuck in the barrel, I sold it and bought a glock 22. I prefer a .40 cal much more to a 9mm. My glock is much more effortless, and accurate. It's my baby:)

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.40 caliber on and off duty.

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 Department issue is .40 caliber


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