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Im a former state corrections officer for 4 years. Left corrections a couple years ago to be closer to family in anther pasrt of country.  Left my previous corrections officer emplyer with good work references as well.  Was really good at my job and want to get back into the corrections field.  Problem is I ran into a legal issue about a year ago.  Got arrested for a misdeamnor theft charge.  Case was dismissed against me have completing a pretrial diversion program.  Arrest record has been expenged as well.  I was innocent of the charge not that it matters at this point.


With this situation can i get back into a career in corrections?  My understanding is that in law enforcement background checks they can see expunged records.   So will they find this record and if they do will it disqualify me from getting back into corrections.

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Contact the agencies and axe.

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Hmm, interesting....In your other thread you state you are on P&P. That doesn't sound like somebody who has had the charge dismissed and their record expunged.

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Hmm, interesting....In your other thread you state you are on P&P. That doesn't sound like somebody who has had the charge dismissed and their record expunged.


Not yet but I am asking the question in anticapation of having it taken care of in the next couple months so i can can out what my career options will be at that point.


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So at this point the charge has NOT been dismissed, and you record has NOT been expunged, correct? I would suggest, as uncledennis1 so eloquently put it, you call the agency in question and axe.


However, you might want to drop the falsehoods when you do so. Stating the charges have been dismissed and your record expunged, when that is NOT the case (yet), is an out and out lie. And nothing sinks an application process, or a career for that matter, faster than being caught in a lie.

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I concur with MH557. You're digging yourself deeper and deeper. The plot thickens.

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So at this point the charge has NOT been dismissed, and you record has NOT been expunged, correct? I would suggest, as uncledennis1 so eloquently put it, you call the agency in question and axe.


However, you might want to drop the falsehoods when you do so. Stating the charges have been dismissed and your record expunged, when that is NOT the case (yet), is an out and out lie. And nothing sinks an application process, or a career for that matter, faster than being caught in a lie.


 



Not at this point they are not dismissed and expunged but i was not asking the question to falsify my application today or in the future.  I was simply asking when this does occur will I be able to get back into corrections.

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Apply to the agency but be extremely honest on your background packet and oral board.  If you get DQ'd, it's not the end of the world. 


Put in 2-3 solid years into a related field (security, if you can still get a guard card), and/orpay your way through a reserve police officer academy at a community college, try to improve your credit score, and obey the law. 


 And no more "alleged" traffic tickets, no "write-ups" at work, and no more arrests.  Otherwise, it might not be meant to be anymore.

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Apply to the agency but be extremely honest on your background packet and oral board.  If you get DQ'd, it's not the end of the world. 


Put in 2-3 solid years into a related field (security, if you can still get a guard card), and/orpay your way through a reserve police officer academy at a community college, try to improve your credit score, and obey the law. 


 And no more "alleged" traffic tickets, no "write-ups" at work, and no more arrests.  Otherwise, it might not be meant to be anymore.


 


 


Thanks for the advice.  No more trouble with the law for me.   I do have good job references and good credit as well and the prior corrections officer experience so I hope that is enough to overcome this issue 


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MH557 says ...



Hmm, interesting....In your other thread you state you are on P&P. That doesn't sound like somebody who has had the charge dismissed and their record expunged.


 


Not yet but I am asking the question in anticapation of having it taken care of in the next couple months so i can can out what my career options will be at that point.




 


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They may not be able to see your record, but when you take that polygraph test for a job, you can be sure they will ask you if you have stolen anything in the past or have been charged/convicted with/of a crime.  If not a polygraph test, they will ask you on an application.. and you damn sure should not lie.. as MH557 pretty much said.  Doesn't really matter that your record is expunged (or gets expunged), in my opinion; it is whether you actually committed the offense.


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They may not be able to see your record, but when you take that polygraph test for a job, you can be sure they will ask you if you have stolen anything in the past or have been charged/convicted with/of a crime.  If not a polygraph test, they will ask you on an application.. and you damn sure should not lie.. as MH557 pretty much said.  Doesn't really matter that your record is expunged (or gets expunged), in my opinion; it is whether you actually committed the offense.


 


On a job apllication it for a police officer job im thinking about applying for it asks it I have ever been convicted of a crime.  It also says i have to disclose expunged convictions but it does not say I have to disclose expunged arrests.  So I think I can legally deny it.  I would to be honest and tell the truth but i do not want to disclose damaging info I am not required to.  Thoughts? 


 


 


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 Sounds to me like your'e already looking of ways to cover your lies, with more lies. 


I'm not an Officer, but I did spend several years working in retail loss prevention And I can assure you that I never


called in the Police without an actual case. I can't imagine anyone in L.P. even detaining someone without a case.


Plus the line "No more trouble with the law for me" , screams out that you know very well what you did. "Not wanting to disclose


damaging info unless I have to" More deception. Good luck....


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I said in your other thread which is obviously related to this thread that I question your integrity and intentions.  Every statement in every post you have made since then in both threads has only served to prove my point.  Why don't you just quit now while you are as behind as you are at this point and deal with your legal matters.  Admit to yourself that you got caught up and that the choices you have made since you left your alleged corrections career may not have been the best choices you have ever made in your life.  I say "alleged corrections career" because to this end, you haven't proven to be what you present yourself to be.  About the only thing you have proven is that you like to use the word "alleged" a lot as you dance around your issues. 

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I said in your other thread which is obviously related to this thread that I question your integrity and intentions.  Every statement in every post you have made since then in both threads has only served to prove my point.  Why don't you just quit now while you are as behind as you are at this point and deal with your legal matters.  Admit to yourself that you got caught up and that the choices you have made since you left your alleged corrections career may not have been the best choices you have ever made in your life.  I say "alleged corrections career" because to this end, you haven't proven to be what you present yourself to be.  About the only thing you have proven is that you like to use the word "alleged" a lot as you dance around your issues. 



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They may not be able to see your record, but when you take that polygraph test for a job, you can be sure they will ask you if you have stolen anything in the past or have been charged/convicted with/of a crime.  If not a polygraph test, they will ask you on an application.. and you damn sure should not lie.. as MH557 pretty much said.  Doesn't really matter that your record is expunged (or gets expunged), in my opinion; it is whether you actually committed the offense.


 


On a job apllication it for a police officer job im thinking about applying for it asks it I have ever been convicted of a crime.  It also says i have to disclose expunged convictions but it does not say I have to disclose expunged arrests.  So I think I can legally deny it.  I would to be honest and tell the truth but i do not want to disclose damaging info I am not required to.  Thoughts? 


 


 



IF you successfully complete your diversion then you could answer no on if you have ever been convicted. Just remember that LE agencies are not out to play a legal game with you, they are looking for the truth. Either give it to them or they WILL get it. So I would def. disclose the arrest as well as the diversion. Then tell them the story of how you didn't do it...


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It's starting to smell like troll up in here.

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Just for clarification, I've never heard of an arrest being expunged. A charge, yes (through the court). On my department, once you're arrested, it stays in the computer system (strictly in-house) and will show up on a background check. That is regardless of conviction, dismissal or expungement.


And I tend to agree with some of the other posts - something not adding up between these topics.


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Hmmmm, it sounds like you should know the answer to your question from the get-go.  If (?) you have been a corrections officer before you should already know if you are elegible or not.  You have already gone through the testing and background investigaton before so you should have an idea of what to expect.  


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 OK i just found your other post.  I smell a troll.....


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