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Posted almost 4 years ago

 

Hello all,


I'd like to start what's sure to be a fiery debate in here. I'd like to puchase a .45 for the purposes of home defense. This pistol is not intended for concealed carry. With that in mind, what is the first firearm that pops into your mind? What would get your vote, and why? Glock 21? 1911 Colt? Do tell...

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Well, even though this has been a topic of discussion...let's see....1, 2, 3, 4...I lost count how many times, I'll still go ahead and give my answer. To me, the best answer is a 12 gauge pump action shotgun. There is nothing on the face of the planet that's sure to make the sphincter pucker up for a would be burglar than the sound of the first rack of a pump action shotgun. (the "intimidation" rack as I like to call it) Plus with a shotgun, any lead that misses your target will embed itself into your walls versus a .45 going completely through your walls and then going who knows where. (hopefully not into the neighbors bedroom, or even worse...into your neighbors themselves)


There are a lot of variables that you must take into account when buying a firearm for home defense. The one that I mentioned above is just one example of what could happen with a handgun...if you miss your intended target.


I look forward to reading more replies on this discussion.


 


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I own a Taurus Judge. It's a .45/.410 with a six inch barrel. It's a revolver that allows you to fire .45 long and .410 shotshells. If you alternate ammo you can adequately defend yourself and scare the living $h!* out of any intruder (If you miss-LOL).


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I own a Taurus Judge. It's a .45/.410 with a six inch barrel. It's a revolver that allows you to fire .45 long and .410 shotshells. If you alternate ammo you can adequately defend yourself and scare the living $h!* out of any intruder (If you miss-LOL).



The Taurus Judge is a GREAT firearm, I own one myself. BUT, for pure pucker factor...the pump action 12 gauge is the way to go!


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BigNTS says ...



I own a Taurus Judge. It's a .45/.410 with a six inch barrel. It's a revolver that allows you to fire .45 long and .410 shotshells. If you alternate ammo you can adequately defend yourself and scare the living $h!* out of any intruder (If you miss-LOL).



The Taurus Judge is a GREAT firearm, I own one myself. BUT, for pure pucker factor...the pump action 12 gauge is the way to go!



You're right. A 12 guage has the best pucker factor.


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I'm gonna go with the 12 guage, too!  Although I've got a .45 that I love and that sleeps in my night stand (Cobra Patriot .45 - check it out, it's a great concealed carry option for a great price), I'm gonna reach for the 12 guage inder the bed for sure!  Nothing like the racking of a Mossberg 500 to make an intruder head back to where he came from :)

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This topic has been beat to death. Follow Glocks advice.

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I'm gonna echo the advice of the others. A 12 ga. with a weapon mounted light is hard to beat for home defense. Out of all the options I have at my disposal, that is what is next to my bed at home. If over penetration is a concern, loading it so the first two rounds are #6 birdshot is a good option. In the relatively CQC associated with true home defense, these still offer a devastatingly effective result without the concern of an errant round/BB over traveling and striking in unintended target.


The ability to deliver accurate fire under stress is also greatly improved with a long gun vs. handgun. While this doesn't justify a "spray and pray" response, it is certainly easier to point shoot a long gun with greater accuracy then with a handgun. Plus, I don't fight fair. I want to always be in the position of advantage, which means "one upping" my opponent  any chance I get. The vast majority of dirtbags using a weapon in the commission of a crime are going to be carrying a handgun. In my opinion, a shotgun trumps a handgun in CQC any day!

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Another good piece of advice for those of you that are just horrible shots no matter what type of firearm that you use...once you have finished unloading your shotgun on a would be assailant, you can always use it as a baseball bat!!!


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Hmm... Well... I have a Remington 870 with birdshot in it.... and I will switch between a Sig P220 Tactical or a Springfiled Loaded 1911A1 very close to me.  I have a specialized ammo I keep in it.. magsafe or something like that.. kinda like  glaser safety slug but without the polymer ball top... Think mini .45 cal shotgun


I'm well trained though and use the shotgun first.. once im fully awake ( obviously at this point ) and out of ammo i'll switch to precision with the handgun.. reason for these specific rounds.. accuracy, and it'll jack a dude up.. also the risk of penatrating more then two walls is extremely slim..


Ammo is a big factor is this.. AND PLEASE also keep in close mind you still MUST aim with a shotgun... if anyone says just hold it at the hip or stick it out a door and start blasting... yeah ... you shoot your kid if she comes out of room scared or go through a window and cause harm to someone else... you will wish you watched where you fire went.  even though it will scatter  it wont scatter that darn much in a CQC situation.


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Something with a light. Identifying potential threats is very important. However, never forget what target indicators are.... such as light. You can keep a light seperate or attached there are advantages/disadvantages to both.  Having both is also a good idea.


There are advantages and disadvantages to any type of weapon you may use in home defense.  Learn what they are and choose what would satisfy your needs.


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I just had this discussion with my son 2 days ago, and he expected me to say my AR.  But was very surprised when i told him I would use my Rem 870.  He asked why so I told him if I had to choose a weapon to protect him his brothers and his mom I would want to use a weapon that would nearly eliminate a burglar with 1 shot.  Dont get me wrong you can put someone down with almost any round, at least any well placed round.  But I would say with regards to true knock down power the 12 gauge can get the job done most of the time.  The occassion that it doesnt work your aim was off. 


Then if I had a choice of .45's I would say the Colt .45ACP, Gold Cup Series, because it has all the modifications needed for fast and accurate shooting.  I own one and I love it.  But I also have tons of respect for Glocks as I am also a Glock Armorer, they are some of the best firearms on the market and they are affordable.  I am sure GlockArmorer can vouch for that as well.

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If you are set on a 45 handgun for home defense.  Get one that a is compatiable with a light whether attached or one you handle both a light and the gun at the same time.  Get one that is reilable, accurate within the max distance of your house and holds as much ammo as you can fit in your hand....in that order.  Reliable is obvious.  Dont need a match 1911 capable of 2" @ 50 yds, that usually effects reliablity.  The higher the ammo capacity the fewer manipulations required.   I have a 1911 w/ an 8 + 1 capacity but the Glock 21 and H&K USP 45's are exactly made to fit my hands.  Esp if I add a handheld light depending on the flashlight technique I am using.  I'll reduce the ammo capacity as long as I dont sacrifice the 1st two.


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Thompson  M1A1

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Thompson  M1A1


 


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Thompson  M1A1



of course you want the drum magazine for that

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My vote is for a FNP-45 Tactical with laser/light combo.


 15rds of .45 firepower from a very accurate pistol designed to be carried cocked and locked with second strike capability.

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Rate This | Posted over 3 years ago

 

Shotgun would be your best as others stated. I am not sure any .45 would be my choice due to minimal ammo capacity. The Glock 45 does hold 13 in the mag so go with that. I feel you are over thinking this subject.

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Another good piece of advice for those of you that are just horrible shots no matter what type of firearm that you use...once you have finished unloading your shotgun on a would be assailant, you can always use it as a baseball bat!!!



Bump I agree with you on the shot-gun I read the pros of using a scatter gun for home D in a magazine and its says use small game shot like number 8 its deadly at close range and if you miss it sticks in the wall and yeah the pump noise means business..

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coshane220 says ...



Another good piece of advice for those of you that are just horrible shots no matter what type of firearm that you use...once you have finished unloading your shotgun on a would be assailant, you can always use it as a baseball bat!!!



Bump I agree with you on the shot-gun I read the pros of using a scatter gun for home D in a magazine and its says use small game shot like number 8 its deadly at close range and if you miss it sticks in the wall and yeah the pump noise means business..



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Tallgov says ...



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Another good piece of advice for those of you that are just horrible shots no matter what type of firearm that you use...once you have finished unloading your shotgun on a would be assailant, you can always use it as a baseball bat!!!



Bump I agree with you on the shot-gun I read the pros of using a scatter gun for home D in a magazine and its says use small game shot like number 8 its deadly at close range and if you miss it sticks in the wall and yeah the pump noise means business..



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Ok,please explain because I am not an expert in firearms.

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My first thought is the Taurus Judge or Defender or the Smith & Wesson (can't remember the name or model) that is built just like the Taurus. It is a .45 revolver which is a simply point and pull the trigger. You can use a .45 Long Colt, a .45 ACP or a .410 shotgun shell, or mix and match! The only thing is the 45 ACP required the use of a 3 round clip so only 45ACP can be used in those chambers. With the 410 shotgun shell it is like using a very short shotgun that can easily be lethal in that range. The .45 long Colt is capable to go through walls or door jams they may be hiding behind <G> Buck and ball gives you both in one package.


 My second choice would be a 12 16 or even 20 ga pump shotgun, (prefer the 12 ga personally), with an 18" barrel and small or shortened stock. (Do not go for the one with the pistol grip only, especially in 12 Ga unless you are a good sized man who knows how to shoot it.) Load it with buck and ball or 00 buck or Slugs. Alternate slugs and 00 Buck or use all buck much preferred over all slugs. Best best is Buck and ball which is just buckshot with the slug combined.


Both of these weapons are very easy to use and should hit anything that you want to in the range that can be expected in a home and with lots of put down power. They are what I call 'dumb' firearms which do not take a lot of thinking to fire, just point and pull the trigger as opposed to a professional shooter, (like a LEO), with a 45 or 40 semi-auto with a couple of safety's and need to be cocked, racked etc. and only hits a single small hole.

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Tallgov says ...



Scurge says ...



Tallgov says ...



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Another good piece of advice for those of you that are just horrible shots no matter what type of firearm that you use...once you have finished unloading your shotgun on a would be assailant, you can always use it as a baseball bat!!!



Bump I agree with you on the shot-gun I read the pros of using a scatter gun for home D in a magazine and its says use small game shot like number 8 its deadly at close range and if you miss it sticks in the wall and yeah the pump noise means business..



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Ok,please explain because I am not an expert in firearms.



Look at your post the answer is right there.  '...if you miss it sticks in the wall' if thats the case then how will it be effective as a defensive load?  There is a reason why its for small birds....so its doesnt damage the bird so much that you cannot eat it.  Its a myth a shotgun is a point n shoot and some how it magically puts the bad guy down.  You still have to aim and you should use proper ammo. 


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Point taken thanks for clearing that up for me and as I stated I am not an expert in this field thats why I rely on the experts...thanks Greg.

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I find a lot of the comments on here kind of scary. First, a lot (if not all) shotgun ammo will go through drywall. If you don't believe me then take a few sheets to the range nail it on two sides of some 2x4s and try out your ammo. Most will go through drywall pretty easy, even if you add in some insulation. I wouldn't want to be living next to a neighbor that thinks they can blast away with a shotgun while facing the wall I'm sleeping behind. So, please aim judiciously.


Next, a flashlight on the end of the gun can be a great idea. I'm going to assume that several of you are more experienced gentlemen (read much older than I am) or are younger and probably don't have kids around the house so maybe this won't apply. You have to consider what you may be pointing the light (and the barrel of your firearm) at. You don't want to be pointing your firearm at your kid walking around the house at night or your kid's friend that you forgot is sleeping over that night. If there is no chance that such a situation could happen for you then please disregard.


Taking those factors into account, I would recommend a handgun because it will be easier to maintain separate control of the firearm and a flashlight than it will be to run a pump action shotgun and hold a flashlight. If you really want to use a shotgun then I would recommend a semi auto, something like the Mossberg JM Pro. It gives you 9-10 rounds and is a little shorter than a lot of shotguns so it would be easier to navigate around close quarters.


Beyond that, I recommend just training with what you do choose to defend your home. Take the time to do a walk through of your house every once in a while. Pay attention to areas where you don't want to be aiming your firearm (your daughter's bedroom, the neighbor's bedroom, etc). Realize that if you do have to shoot in those directions it may be better to take a knee so your rounds stop in the ceiling rather than your kid's bedroom. Thinking these things out in advance and practicing them now will prevent mistakes later when your life or your family's life will count on it.


Being kind of a tech nerd myself I will also add in that you could eliminate the need for a flashlight by automating some basic lights in your house. (Assuming they don't cut your power or something.) They could be motion sensitive or activated by a switch from your room. All the lights in the house suddenly coming on will scare away most (if not all) home invaders.

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CB90. Odd first post. Give us some information on yourself please. Are you a cop? Age and level of education. I am just curious.

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When it comes to a .45 you got to go with Glock for the pure fact of how reliable it is. You can drag that thing through water, dirt, mud or anything else you might put it through then turn around put a magazine in it, aim toward the target and it will fire when you pull that trigger. Also Glock is the easiest weapon to field strip, it is like LEGOS for men which is nice for when you have to clean it. Also with the Glock you can buy a kit to switch out the barrel in your gun and shoot different types of ammunition but the negative with that is that the kit is almost as expensive as the firearm itself.


 


With that said though for home defense I would go with the Remington 870 12 gauge but if your heart is set on a .45 then I would go with Glock perfection.


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CB90 on the flashlight problem you know you can buy a flashlight attachment for a lot of firearms right?


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uncledennis,


I guess an intro would be appropriate. I am 25. I am not a cop. I am a civilian engineer working for the military. I'm kind of a gun nut and self defense enthusiast. I also read a lot about about the law, particularly self defense incidents.


custodynate,


The problem is not the flashlight or attaching it to a firearm. The problem is that a flashlight on the end of the firearm is inevitably pointed where the barrel of the gun is pointing. That's great if you're kicking down a door as a police officer. It's not so great if you go around the house pointing the flashlight (and the barrel of the gun) at people in your house that may or may not be a threat. See the problem? My firearms instructor (someone I respect a great deal with many years of law enforcement experience) cautioned about the use of a flashlight attached to the end of the gun. By working them both independently you can point the light where you need it without needing to point the gun in the same direction. In this way if it turns out to not be a threat you are not pointing the gun at someone that you wouldn't want to pull the trigger on (like your kid wondering around the house at night). Am I making sense here?


The point of the comment wasn't to disagree or argue with any of you. The purpose was to simply remind people that a light on the end of a gun is also pointing a gun at someone. This is one of the rookie mistakes I was cautioned on. I figured as this is the top search if you put in "45 acp home defense" into Google a lot of people looking at this forum may be new to guns and may not realize the danger of using a firearm flashlight in the way described. That's why I also brought up shooting toward a wall and expecting it to stop a bullet. Drywall stinks at stopping a bullet and I felt that people should be aware that they really do need to know what is beyond their target if they do need to pull the trigger. There really is no excuse for shooting your wife, your kid or your neighbor through a wall because you didn't think through all the consequences of your actions.

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