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Welcome! Please take a few minutes to introduce yourself to the group. It doesn't have to be an in-depth biography, only as much as you're comfortable with sharing. First name, length of time in law enforcement, your area(s) of expertise and/or interest, what about the RRSA career interests you, etc. Or just a "hello" works, too.



Please feel free to start a new discussion (preferably related to the RRSA career). Also, if you have any RR contacts you have made on this forum, please encourage them to take a look at our group and participate in the discussions.



Stay safe!


"I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for the sake of mine." -John Galt

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I've been an LEO in Arizona for a little more than nine years. I did five years in patrol, four years special investigations (SIU), and currently in intelligence investigations in a fusion center. I look forward to meeting and networking with everyone who shares the desire to become an RRSA. Stay safe!


"I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for the sake of mine." -John Galt

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Uncle Shetland here. Stay where you are at. I had a position of RRSA and was miserable. Checking box car seals is not real police work. I was on a salary and worked more hours then I desired. It is my understanding many of the rail road companies contract law enforcement. I left after a short while and returned to the police department. I did nothing on the job that was law enforcement related.


 


 

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Uncle Shetland, thanks for the info. It seems like you had a pretty negative experience as an RRSA. After interacting with a lot of officers over this and other forums, I have found that most of the folks who are truly interested in the RRSA career, and who continue to try to get those jobs,  understand it is not going to be the same as public sector law enforcement. The more people learn about what the job truly entails, the more people break one way ("No way in hell I want to do that!") or the other ("That sounds like the job for me!"). In spite of the fact it sounds like you were the former, I would be interested in any positive experiences you may have had while an RRSA.


For which railroad did you work? When did you work there, and at what location? What about your background and experience at the time helped you get the job? Thanks for stopping by and adding to the discussion.


"I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for the sake of mine." -John Galt

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uncledennis1 says ...



Uncle Shetland here. Stay where you are at. I had a position of RRSA and was miserable. Checking box car seals is not real police work. I was on a salary and worked more hours then I desired. It is my understanding many of the rail road companies contract law enforcement. I left after a short while and returned to the police department. I did nothing on the job that was law enforcement related.


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I agree, to a point.  It all depends on where you work.  And I mean, what part of the country.  I work in Chicago as a UPRR SA and I do "real police" work everyday. 


Do I do as much as I did when I worked for a municipality? No, no where near.  But that's how I like it now.  I did my time in the trenches, and I like not having as much stress with my job.  So your right in the sense this job is not for every police officer.  I know guys to this day that could never do this job because it would be too boring for them.  And that's fine.  But it's also not a "retired on duty" type of job either.


But your right about checking box cars all day.  That is the main part of our job.  And some SA's in other parts of the country, that is all they do.  But here in Chicago, that is not the case.


Also, I have to also point out that most salaries for RR police is usually considerably higher than municipality salaries.  And I do not know ANY pension that can beat the Federal RR Retirement Pension.


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I was with the Norfolk and Western who merged with another railway company. I was never comfortable working on the tracks. I am certain Chicago has a much bigger yard than Kansas City, MO. I am not attempting to knock the job it just wasn't my cup of tea. I found it boring and checking box car sears was not what I was looking for. Most of the police personnel had been clerks and transfered. I was very glad to put it behind me.

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Special Agent with CN Police out of Memphis.  Hired out with the KCS Police in 2003.  Currently a Firearms Instructor, GCCI Instructor, and OL Presenter.  Came to the railroad from working narcotics so it def was a change of pace.  Things have changed in the industry...gone are the days of taking a clerk or a claim agent and making them a Special Agent. 

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Greetings,


Not a railroad LEO, but have friends who are and just wanted to say welcome to PL and be safe out there on the job.  Any working around the tracks is just as dangerous as working the streets...

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RailPD133 says ...



Special Agent with CN Police out of Memphis.  Hired out with the KCS Police in 2003.  Currently a Firearms Instructor, GCCI Instructor, and OL Presenter.  Came to the railroad from working narcotics so it def was a change of pace.  Things have changed in the industry...gone are the days of taking a clerk or a claim agent and making them a Special Agent. 



RailPD133, welcome to the group and thanks for the introduction. It's interesting you should mention that last part, because I have heard on a few recent occasions, from other RR employees, that presently one of the best ways to get a Special Agent position is to hire on as something else, and subseqently apply internally for the Special Agent position. Are you saying that this is not generally the case? It seemed to me to be contradictory to the fact that most, if not all, of the RR's require Special Agent candidates 1) to be certified police officers with at least X (usually a minimum of 3) years of experience, 2) have a bachelor's degree or higher, 3) be eligible to be certified as a peace officer in the state in which the position is offered / already be a certified officer in the state in which the position is offered. To your knowedge, is there a different set of requirements or criteria for internal applicants to the Special Agent position?


"I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for the sake of mine." -John Galt

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Not saying that it is not possible to hire out as something else and come over to the police.  That being said most companies will not do that if the person is not already LE Certified.  The company does not want to go through the time or the expense to send someone through the academy.  If one would want to try and just get on the railroad then try to apply for a Speical Agent posistion the key would be not letting their certification run out.

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Understood. Thanks for the response. I guess my question is, in your experience, does that happen often (someone hiring on as something else and tranferring to the SA position internally)?


"I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for the sake of mine." -John Galt

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I have personally never seen it happen.  Although when I first started with CN we had a SA who was originally a claim agent.  The two departments merged and he decided to go through the academy to be a reserve deputy therefore having a certification he was sworn in as a SA as well as a claim agent.  Currently we have two Risk Mitigation Officers (new name for a claim agent) that were cops prior to coming to the RR.  The company decided to allow them to keep their comissions up to date by going to in service training.  That way if they ever decide to leave the RR they could go back to a LEO job.  Or if the company hired another SA they could apply.  However it does not gaurentee anything.  Both were overlooked for a SA position by a outside applicant.

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Rail, thanks for the information. It's good the hear that from someone on the inside and presently doing the job. I'm glad to hear (obviously, for selfish reasons) that they hired an outside applicant. I was beginning to think that was practically unheard of. For those of us who are serious about getting into the RRSA career, which in my increasingly informed opinion has to be one of the most challenging law enforcement positions to obtain, it helps to hear it isn't entirely an insider's game.


Thanks again for your perspective and willingness to share what you know. I hope you'll stop by often. Stay safe!


"I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for the sake of mine." -John Galt

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Hello all.  I saw this topic, and was very interested.  I was hoping to join in if not too late?  I am a ten year veteran.  I've spent approximately  5 years on road patrol in the State of Michigan 3 years in a city agency, 2 years on a sheriff's department road patrol, and another 4 year in a small Chicago suburban town on road patrol.  I also have an educational background.  I too am extremely interested in becoming either a railroad police officer or special agent.  My question is why is this area so hard to get into?  I have a great background a lot of experirence, however I have been trying to become a rail officer for the past 4 years and have had no success.  I've only been offered two interviews in the last 4 years, and neither agency hired me.  Any pointers on bettering my chances.  I am bound and determined this is the area I am going to get into.

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If there are any CN Officers on this forum, I would love to chat with you for some possible pointers if willing.  I am currently in the process with CN, and would love to work there (Location: Harvey, IL area).

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Is anyone still active on here? I am trying to get in to a railroad police or special agent position in the Chicago area, please respond on here or send a PM if someone sees this.