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Posted about 3 years ago

 

 I was assinged one night to a copper theft detail early in the morning. I was with my training officer in a LPR Car running tags when spotting a car coming out of a club. Hearing screams coming from the car we both decided to pull it over. Onced stopped in the median we got out and talked to the occupants, which we ended pulling them all out of the car for further investigation. At that time the SGT on duty came for backup and another deputy also came for backup. So as myself and the backup deputy were investigating the subjects in between their car and my patrol car a big red dodge pickup truck came flying down the street at least 45 mph or faster head on. The driver crossed into the median and with the last second just pulled away in time before clipping the car. The car would have killed us or made serious injury to the backup deptuy, the subjects, myself and the other two officers who were at the SGT's car going over the id's. After pulling away he kept going towards my training officer and the sarge almost clipping them. Long story short a chase was started the vehicle was stopped and the driver was charged with DUI and multiple other charges. We also found open containers right behind his drivers side seat. What a night that was, and I will never forget.


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Rate This | Posted about 3 years ago

 

thats a sick way to start your le. but you know what, your going to see better, and also worse. that's why i want to do this so bad.

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Great story for aspiring LEOs. A good reminder that anything can happen at anytime! Stay safe!

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Rate This | Posted about 3 years ago

 

 Yes sir, anything can happen at anytime. I wish I had it on camera to show you guys. But my vehicle didn't have cameras and the sarge didn't but his on. But we all went home


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Great story .... et al.


 


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What? Are you completely daff ? Loose nuts? Crazy? Lame?


NOT a great story. This is an account that could have had catastrophic ramifications. Even with the outcome, the people involved will remember this event (maybe in a cold sweat in the middle of the night!). They will be forever concerned and maybe obsessed with officer safety issues on traffic stops.


This is an event you walk away from and learn, learn learn... forever. jwoods4290 said it very well: "You're going to see better." Styrker, I am pleased you are a survivor. I am very glad your name is not appearing in our Officer Down Group.


For the rest of all y'all: Keep your head on a swivel and get off the roadway, if possible.


 



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TheSarge says ...



lemmonw says ...



Great story .... et al.


 


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What? Are you completely daff ? Loose nuts? Crazy? Lame?


NOT a great story. This is an account that could have had catastrophic ramifications. Even with the outcome, the people involved will remember this event (maybe in a cold sweat in the middle of the night!). They will be forever concerned and maybe obsessed with officer safety issues on traffic stops.


This is an event you walk away from and learn, learn learn... forever. jwoods4290 said it very well: "You're going to see better." Styrker, I am pleased you are a survivor. I am very glad your name is not appearing in our Officer Down Group.


For the rest of all y'all: Keep your head on a swivel and get off the roadway, if possible.


 


You are so right TheSarge. I have had dreams and thoughts about this incident many times. That morning I could not sleep, and all I could think about is what if the driver didn't move and hit that car and killed us all or hurt as all real bad. I am too glad that my name and my partners are not on the Officer Down Group. I will be watching more and more since this happened. I am glad the Lord was watching out for all of us that morning.


 



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TheSarge says ...



lemmonw says ...



Great story .... et al.


 


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What? Are you completely daff ? Loose nuts? Crazy? Lame?


NOT a great story. This is an account that could have had catastrophic ramifications. Even with the outcome, the people involved will remember this event (maybe in a cold sweat in the middle of the night!). They will be forever concerned and maybe obsessed with officer safety issues on traffic stops.


This is an event you walk away from and learn, learn learn... forever. jwoods4290 said it very well: "You're going to see better." Styrker, I am pleased you are a survivor. I am very glad your name is not appearing in our Officer Down Group.


For the rest of all y'all: Keep your head on a swivel and get off the roadway, if possible.


 



Well when you edit out the rest of my post Sarge, I suppose it could be taken like that . If you actually look at my post, all I was suggesting is that aspiring LEOs can learn from this because it does happen, doesn't matter if your first call or your 1000th.


I wasn't saying this is a good night time story to tell the kids or to giggle about... as you suggested. Just clearing the air.

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Rate This | Posted about 3 years ago

 

Copy that.


And yeah, I got it. I really did. I was just using your partial comment as a jumping off point for those who pageview this discussion but not respond. I take any opportunity I can to offer a teaching moment.


I've had enough close calls to fill a bucket, one drop at a time. Even in retirement I am 'ready relaxed' and 'fierce friendly' and at Condition Yellow most of my waking hours. I am not obsessive: Just observant after many years in the business.


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Rate This | Posted over 2 years ago

 

 Great idea! I do the same thing with my other partners. If I have an opportunity for a teaching moment or say something that happened to me that could possibly save the life of a brother or sister I will not hesitate to teach it! 


Also just to give some extra information, now when I pull someone over my head is on a swivel. If I hear a car or see one I am almost ready to jump in a split second to avoid a hit. 


Just an extra teaching opportunity to everyone that reads this. DO NOT pull a car over in a median. It is not safe for you or the person you stop. Use your pa mic and get them off the street and into a parking lot or off to the side of the road or an exit ramp. Its not worth losing your life over or worth getting yourself seriously hurt. Don't say that it will never happen to me, because it will. Medians are a death trap both ways. Take the extra step and put the car in a safe place so you do not have to worry about a drunk or a speeder hitting you. Always be safe!


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Rate This | Posted over 2 years ago

 

hey stryker, 1st, glad you and all the others are okay.  now, i'm glad you finally used this post for a little training. in your last para you stated about pulling over a vehicle in a median withl traffic flowing both ways around you. yeah, i like that.  anything else that experience taught you that you may want to pass on??


stay safe and hard.

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 Thanks Mikie! God protected us all and that morning. And apparently it wasn't are time to go.


Basically what the Sarge had stated, keep your head on a swivel. Also make sure your vehicle has a camera in it of some sort. Will make prosecuting cases like this more easier. But the major point I really wanted to make is get off the median!!! When you pull someone over in the median this is what you are going to deal with the entire stop. First you'll have to wait to exit the car because of others passing by. Second you have to keep an eye more on the vehicles passing by then the people of traffic stop itself. ( as we all know not keeping an eye on the occupants of a stop can be the most deadly thing you can do on a stop). Third you have to think about the occupants of the car if something were to happen. What if they pull a gun on you, where are you runing to? Not to many places for cover in the middle of the street. Fourth along the same lines as point three, what if you do pull the occupants out of the car for a search or a talk or whatever the case maybe, a car does hit the scene of the stop. Are you willing to put the lives of people that you stopped in your hands? To me that seems like a lawsuit waiting to happen. As you can see there is too much to place on your mind on top of the actual stop itself. Don't clog that mind with stuff that can be prevented. 


As for the stop what also learned was actually one of the points I made about keeping an eye on the occupants. Since I was on the passenger side of the car, and the vehicles coming at my backside, I kept more of an eye on traffic than the people. I could hardly stand on the side cause the cars were way to close to comfort for me. That could've been bad for me and my partner who I should've been watching out for. 


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Rate This | Posted over 2 years ago

 

 Also go to youtube and do a search on there on how many times an officer gets hurt or almost killed while on a traffic stop due to a deglegent driver. I actually have a friend who was hit by a car on the highway. A car just came to close and clipped him, he survived the hit but had some serious injuries. 


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Rate This | Posted over 2 years ago

 

 Wow that is some story.  I am glad that You and everyone else involved survived.  That is something for me to think about; where to safely pull people over, and the risks that may be involved with the occupants of the vehicle.  Thank You for passing your story along to others.

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Rate This | Posted over 2 years ago

 

 Thanks Chrissy! I wish more people would listen and do this. Just this morning on my way to the dump I saw a State Trooper stopping a vehicle in the middle of the road. I wanted to jump out of my car and tell him to move it off the road. It is TOOOOOO DANGEROUS!!!!!!! This is something I am very passionate about. To many of us get killed each year due to safety issues. Lets take this one off the list.


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Rate This | Posted over 2 years ago

 

I'd be careful about the exit ramp. We had a Trooper stop a violater on an exit ramp and the sun blinded another dirver causing him to strike the Trooper killing him. Because it was a ramp it narrowed into one lane and when the SP did a renactment the next day at the exact same time the Trooper dirving was blinded by the sun verifying the driver was blinded.  Since then I have seen the Troopes make the drivers continue until they are off exit ramps if it narrows into one lane. Excellent training for the new lEOs and a reminder to the "old timers".

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Rate This | Posted over 2 years ago

 

 Glad to hear it worked out the way it did.  Often times, officers are not as lucky.  Just goes to show that the situation at hand is only part of the danger.  

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Rate This | Posted over 2 years ago

 

Yes, Glad this is a Survivor story Stryker, and you now have the opportunity to share your story with other LEO'S as a training point.


Everything can change in a Hot minute, BE SAFE, always remember "NOT TODAY"


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Rate This | Posted over 2 years ago

 

 Thanks guys!! That's exactly what I was saying "Not Today''!!!! I did'nt want it to end this way and this soon. Not on the first day, the begining of my career, not to my family. Couldn't help but think about my family the rest of the day.


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Rate This | Posted over 1 year ago

 

 Bump! Still to this day I am super careful when on traffic stops or anywhere near a road. Maybe a little to careful. 


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