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Poll: Should Officers be allowed facial hair

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In today's new relaxed standards of dress should we allow Police Officers the right to express themselves with facial hair? Should all kinds of facial hair be allowed or just things like trimmed goatees or maybe mustaches only. How about no facial hair at all?


Time was that a Police Officer recruiting poster showed a LEO who looked like a US Marine recruiting poster in dress blues wearing his leather brimmed hat, physically fit, clean shaven and not a thread of clothing out of place. In my day we actually did dress that way with the exception that we were allowed neatly trimmed mustaches. In fact 90% of cops where I worked has mustaches. It was sort of our thing to ID ourselves as cops. Now I see LEOs on patrol and in administration running around with goatees and even full beards in uniform. These are not undercover guys but often someone on patrol!




So, here is your chance to speak up. Should cops be allowed facil hair or not and how much should they be allowed? We will talk about uniforms later.

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Dude, I get razor bumps BAAAAAD. I've tried everything, nothing seems to work. If I shave, in a couple days I'll be in some serious pain. I'm considering laser hair removal. My department policy is to have neatly groomed facial hair, but no crazy beards or nothing like that. Mustaches are ok because if you're like me, then you look retarted without one.  In conclusion, I still think clean shaven with a groomed mustache, but also I think finely trimmed facial hair should be an option for people like myself (I'm biased)


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I remember we were allowed a few years ago to have goatees and beards only if they were trimmed and kept under a certain length. That is still the norm now there and usually does not get too much attention. Not usually even brought up until around hunting season or winter around here... then a lot of the guys have them as another way to keep warm up in the Wisconsin winters.


 

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Robocop33 says...


<snip> Time was that a Police Officer recruiting poster showed a LEO who looked like a US Marine recruiting poster in dress blues wearing his leather brimmed hat, physically fit, clean shaven and not a thread of clothing out of place. <snip>


^^^^^^^^^ This ^^^^^^^^^^ right ^^^^^^^^^^ here ^^^^^^^^^ !!!!

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Romans_116 says ...



Dude, I get razor bumps BAAAAAD. I've tried everything, nothing seems to work. If I shave, in a couple days I'll be in some serious pain. I'm considering laser hair removal. My department policy is to have neatly groomed facial hair, but no crazy beards or nothing like that. Mustaches are ok because if you're like me, then you look retarted without one.  In conclusion, I still think clean shaven with a groomed mustache, but also I think finely trimmed facial hair should be an option for people like myself (I'm biased)



This I do understand and with a Dr's note about this physical disability it should be allowed.

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Robocop33 says...


<snip> Time was that a Police Officer recruiting poster showed a LEO who looked like a US Marine recruiting poster in dress blues wearing his leather brimmed hat, physically fit, clean shaven and not a thread of clothing out of place. <snip>


^^^^^^^^^ This ^^^^^^^^^^ right ^^^^^^^^^^ here ^^^^^^^^^ !!!!



Excuse me? Don't understand.

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So far I am VERY surprised at the votes!

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Mustaches and trimmed Goats.

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Our policy is mustaches kept neat and trimmed not to drop below the line of the lower lip. Sideburns are to stop at the bottom of the earlobe - no more. (We do have a detective who is allowed to have a goatee - I haven't figured why he is given an exception. None were allowed before.


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Robocop33 says ...



MH557 says ...



Robocop33 says...


<snip> Time was that a Police Officer recruiting poster showed a LEO who looked like a US Marine recruiting poster in dress blues wearing his leather brimmed hat, physically fit, clean shaven and not a thread of clothing out of place. <snip>


^^^^^^^^^ This ^^^^^^^^^^ right ^^^^^^^^^^ here ^^^^^^^^^ !!!!



Excuse me? Don't understand.


I was just stating I would like LEO's nowadays to still look like this...


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My opinion could be due to being younger but I personally don't see a goatee being any less professional looking than being clean shaven or a mustache.  Now, to clarify, I feel that it should be well maintained and kept to look nice.  Could be an interesting side topic to the original, do the votes coincide with the age groups of the people voting.  Does the younger generation lean more toward facial hair than the more experienced individuals?

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My opinion could be due to being younger but I personally don't see a goatee being any less professional looking than being clean shaven or a mustache.  Now, to clarify, I feel that it should be well maintained and kept to look nice.  Could be an interesting side topic to the original, do the votes coincide with the age groups of the people voting.  Does the younger generation lean more toward facial hair than the more experienced individuals?



BP7, good question and maybe people should include that in their posts! Out policy at the time, and still is as far as I know, neat mustaches only not to go below the corner of the lip and sideburns not to go below the bottome of the earlob. Of course now nobody would be caught with long sideburns but trim them at the middle of the ear like me or at the top of the ear.

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I do not have a problem with allowing neatly trimmed goaties. I do not want to see the George Michael Look though.


To answer the age question, I am not sure what the dividing line is for the younger versus older generation. I am REAL close to being 40 and have been in Law Enforcement since the mid 90's.


I think different times, or era's have different standards of what is exceptable. Like I said, I have no issues with a mustache and and neatly trimmed goatie. I personally have a mustache but will not grow a beard or goatie. The beard I grow looks like a mangie dog and when I do the goatie thing it comes in, in a mixture of blonde, red and WAY to much gray.


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Our department policy in uniform is mustache trimmed neat and not below the corner of the lip. Sideburns to middle of the ear. Detectives and UC's to each there own.

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When my father was a cop he always had a mustache, my grandfather on the other hand was always clean shaven. If it looks good and is kept clean, I say officers should be able to have goaties or a mustache. Although.... a mustache is a little old school

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I'm goin old school again. Neat and trimmed mustache only.

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One of the great things about our country is the incredible diversity we have.  This diversity spills over into LE as well.   You can see it in our uniforms, what color we paint our cars, what style of hat we wear with our uniforms, and even our facial hair.  In example;  In the Eastern united states most PD's wear blue.  In the South west most wear khaki or green.    In California PD uniforms are mostly a solid color, in the midwest the pants are often one color and the shirt is another.  It is all based on tradition, function, and the what that particular society accepts as the norm.  The same is true when it comes to facial hair.  In the larger urban population areas professional men are generally clean shaven.  However in rural areas, especially the western rural areas, it is common for upstanding profesionals to have facial hair. 


In short my answer is that what ever the general society or culture of your particular area accepts as proper is the correct way to go. 

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I think LEO's should be an example for the public but I don't see anything wrong with facial hair as long as it is well groomed and doesn't draw any unnecessary attention. When I was taking some tests for a state trooper a few years ago they required a clean shaven face.  It was really hard to shave off my mustache after many many years. I did because I wanted a career with them. I ended up moving away but if it is required I'm willing to follow up because I really love law enforcement!!!!

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Even though I voted for no facial hair, i do understand the basis of a neatly trimmed mustache and beard. However, you all know as well as I do, there are those out there that will push the envelope just to cause trouble. At most i am ok with a neatly trimmed mustache , not covering the lips and not passing the ends of the lips. this bushy crap is unkept. Thats just my  $ .02

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Good Poll question!! I think Mustaches only.   It just looks more professional and respectable.  When I see agencies that allow goatees or beards  (like Seattle PD - no offense) it just looks like some mall cops or security guards.

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sorry to all you mustache lovers out there but when I see someone with one I think of Chris Hanson lol around my department they are known as the molestache lol The Tom Selleck look is out.

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For me personally I understand why the brass wants you to look a certain way in uniform but I think that a mustache or anything that is trimmed and well groomed should be acceptable. I hate being clean shaven but I follow orders and grow a facial hair on my off days..:)

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I think mustaches look goofy, I think beards look goofy, but thats just me.  As long as officers dont go crazy with it and go Grizzly Adams or ZZ Top with their facial hair I am not concerned about it.  I've seen officers from a few agencies with duty gear that looks like it has been polished with a Hershey bar and their boots are even worse.  Their uniforms usually arent bad.  If the dept doesnt care enough to expect a higher standard in appearance of leather gear then why does neatly trimmed facial hair matter?  To me it doesnt.


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Some very good answers and question here. Jack Wagon really hit the nail on the head when he made the statements about what is the acceptable norm for a certain community. I have always felt that our appearance is not really for us, but for those who we serve and protect. We want to present a neat and professional look that is not intimidating or offensive, even to the most critical kid or old biddy. <LOL> I think that short hair, not military white-walls but neat, trimmed, off the ears and back of the neck work as well as short trimmed mustaches that do not fall below the corners of the mouth or cover the lip are acceptable.


Jack Wagon did bring up another point of interest and that is about the color of the uniforms. I'll get into that later with a 'what do you wear' type deal.

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I think it should be allowed within limits. A goatee or a mustache would make sense if they were neatly kept. A full beard would be rediculous and unprofessional. It would be pretty hard to take someone seriously that looked like they belong on a Harley as opposed to a squad car.


Appearences are important for an officer. If an officer had a baby face it would be difficult to take them seriously. That's the opposite extreme. Maybe, a range of options would be necesary. A few sketches in a handbook of about 4-6 options for facial hair would be good. The standards should be specific. After all, it is the police force.

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I dont see anything wrong with facial hair as long as its trimed and well-maintained. I do think mustaches are a little cliche' though

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 Like I said, I think goatees and beards make cops look like mall cops or security guards.  It just looks unprofessional, like they aren't completely committed to the job. Kinda like a mulet, business to the front, party in the back.   Anybody else think so?

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Just recently, the department that I work for required everyone who had a goattee or beard to shave everythign off mut the mustache.  There is talk that we won't be permitted to have the mustache next month.  I look like a child without my facial hair.

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Facial hair, no facial hair......hat, no hat.......metal star/shield and name plate, sewn on badge/shield and name.....


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Others may disagree with me but I don't think women officers should have facial hair at all...

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