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40 Years old where do I start?

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i am 40 years old and have no prior military or any  type of training. Whats the correct way become an officer at my age. Do I need to go to the academy and pay myself? Any help appreciated.


 


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Start at the start end at the end.....


 Contact your local Law Enforcement Agency and ask them..


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Go to the agencies and axe. Listen to bad_LT.

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Too old for LE in New Jersey, the max age is 35 unless you have prior military.


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Since you are here, start by clicking on the "BECOME A COP" tab at the top of the page, and go from there.

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Too old for some Agencies.


For the NYPD 29 is the limit (unless you get some credit for Military Service, and that's only now, not so years ago)


The Liberal Northeast seems to carry the flag when it comes to limiting people's capabilities sometimes borderline with Age Descrimination if you ask me. Most of the Southern States have no such unfair limits, and the decision will be based in your actual physical abilities when it comes to physical, not on any arbitratry "Age Barrier". For example, in Florida you will have to pass the  FDLE BAT (Florida Department of Law Enforcement) (Basic Abilities Test)


So, if you are in the NE, I would suggest to look elsewhere. At 40 you still have a lot to offer to LE. Don't get discouraged.


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It depends on what state you are in.  Some states have age limits still, however there was a case in California that addressed the age issue the said that this was age discrimination.  (Don't have the site.  In looking at some of the responces you have gotten there is a mixed reaction to your question.  The first question that you must ask your self is "WHY" I want to do this.  There have been others that have gone before you, I remember one from Australia who became a sworn officer at a Police Department at 52?? I think.  He put himself through the training at a college.  This is one way that departments look at you a second time since there is no training cost at first.  But this is a crap shoot.  Some smaller departments have a reserve program that they somethime hire from.  This is getting long but there are several ways to get into the business if thats what you want.  Sent me a meggage if you want any more info.


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Prior to my retirement I attended a week long school at the Missouri State Patrol Academy. I met a recruit who was a week or two from graduation as a state trooper. He was 52 or 53 years of age. He was very determined.

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Depends on the agency here in Arkansas.  My former agency has a 38 yoa cutoff but up until something like 1999 it was 42 yoa.  But there are several others within the State that still have hiring standards for people in their mid 40's.  You'll just have to go on the hunt.  Good Luck!

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I think 40 years old is too old to get hire from any Federal agencies unless you have military or prior law enforcement background. In CA you can become a police officer at 40 years old, but these days that can be very difficult because there are many young applicants with college degrees and military background. Most agencies are going to hire them before they hire someone who is 40 years old. 


However, if you really want to become one than give all you got and dont give up. Dont let anyone stop you from achieving your goal until you give it a try.

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How about you post an introduction first.

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Actually only certain federal leo positions limit their age.  Some don't have a maximum age if they are on the General Schedule (GS) pay vice the General Law Enforcement (GL) pay.  The difference is the retirement system, the FedLEO retirement has a maximum age limit to qualify, while FERS just has a minimum time of service to qualify.  If you are over 40 and want to get into Federal LEO look at Department of Veteran Affairs, or D.O.D. Police, there are other agencies that have police also without the maximum age limit.  To find them you have to use www.usajobs.gov yes there are added preference for veterans and disabled veterans for federal employment purposes.  There are also specific programs for recently discharged veterans for preference also.  Veteran Employment Opportunity Act (VEOA) and Veteran Recruitment Act (VRA).  VRA is for disabled veterans rated at least 10% disability by VA.  


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In Illinois, most municipalities have their age limits set at 35. However the county Sheriff's departments don't usually set an age restriction.


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Now that your question has been answered by a few members, might I suggest something;


Scroll down to the bottom of the page, click on the "Terms of Use" tab and read through them. Then, after that...post an introduction and tell us a little bit about yourself. After you do that, I am sure that you will recieve many more annswers to your questions.


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I don't know what state you're in but I started my journey at 41 and graduated blet at 42yrs old.i'm currently applying to agencies now. Don't let age discourage you.it's all about how you carry yourself. alot of agencies will consider you because of your age and they know you re gonna think things through before acting on it.i also won the fitness award in my class.we older guys still got it..lol..


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Good luck to you.  Bump UnkaD's comment.  40 is a number... go for it and best to you.


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I appreciate all the advice and motivation. Sometimes your dreams can be sidetracked and you wake up one day and your 40! Though it may seem a young age to many, starting out in law enforcement I feel like an old man.


Im a lifelong resident of Dayton, OH


Ive been in sales for same 2 companies for 17 years, so i have nothing related to law enforcement history.


I always wanted to be part of a drug or gang task force.


I have no criminal record.


I have 2 boys ages 11-14


Raising them pretty much on my own delayed my career choices and now they are at an age where it makes going back to school or a police academy much easier.


Tragically an officer was just killed yesterday in a town I use to live in. Enon, OH. which is only a few miles from where im at now. She was just recently married and I think she had two children. Its hard to believe, but im sure being officers you men and women see things that most of us just dont and how horrible it really is out there.


Ill check out the "how to become a cop tab" but I knew some of you were my age or knew someone that made it at my age and I wanted to here real stories from actual officer that were my age when they started. I have days where I think im just too old to even try and im afraid to let any more years slip by and make the wrong career choice and not be able to become an officer.


Say a prayer for officer Hopper and her family


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I think 40 years old is too old to get hire from any Federal agencies unless you have military or prior law enforcement background. In CA you can become a police officer at 40 years old, but these days that can be very difficult because there are many young applicants with college degrees and military background. Most agencies are going to hire them before they hire someone who is 40 years old. 


However, if you really want to become one than give all you got and dont give up. Dont let anyone stop you from achieving your goal until you give it a try.



NOT CORRECT! Believe it or not... lots of federal agencies DONT HAVE AN AGE LIMIT! The ones that do give exception to veterans. And with almost ALL if not ALL Federal Law Enforcement... you must have a prior LE background OR COMPATIBLE EDUCATION if that agency starts at the GS-4 or GS-5 level.

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All i can tell you is to go register for the next academy and get started. I hope you re in decent shape because it will help. don't waste anymore time.just get started.


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I think 40 years old is too old to get hire from any Federal agencies unless you have military or prior law enforcement background. In CA you can become a police officer at 40 years old, but these days that can be very difficult because there are many young applicants with college degrees and military background. Most agencies are going to hire them before they hire someone who is 40 years old. 


However, if you really want to become one than give all you got and dont give up. Dont let anyone stop you from achieving your goal until you give it a try.



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thats what you get for thinking..... YOUR WRONG....


For so long as one hundred men remain alive, we shall never under any conditions submit to the domination of the English. It is not for glory or riches or honours that we fight, but only for liberty, which no good man will consent to lose but with his life.

The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320

SCREW TIBET FREE SCOTLAND !!!!

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Spartan0331 says ...



I think 40 years old is too old to get hire from any Federal agencies unless you have military or prior law enforcement background. In CA you can become a police officer at 40 years old, but these days that can be very difficult because there are many young applicants with college degrees and military background. Most agencies are going to hire them before they hire someone who is 40 years old. 


However, if you really want to become one than give all you got and dont give up. Dont let anyone stop you from achieving your goal until you give it a try.



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thats what you get for thinking..... YOUR WRONG....



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 Hey all,


I thought long and hard about a career in law enforcement for years. I got a bachelor of science in criminal justice admin, then an MBA. I always thought I would end up at a department on the admin side. But it seems like taking the education first route sort of put me at a disadvantage because everyone I talk to says you have to have “street time” first. Is that true? I would still like to consider this as a career path but just dont know if I went too far.


Also I am 46 so I have that against me too I think. Dont mean to be negative. Just wonder about realistic expectations. Any advice is really appreciated. Also THANK YOU to everyone who serves. I am a big fan!! 

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 Hey all,


I thought long and hard about a career in law enforcement for years. I got a bachelor of science in criminal justice admin, then an MBA. I always thought I would end up at a department on the admin side. But it seems like taking the education first route sort of put me at a disadvantage because everyone I talk to says you have to have “street time” first. Is that true? I would still like to consider this as a career path but just dont know if I went too far.


Also I am 46 so I have that against me too I think. Dont mean to be negative. Just wonder about realistic expectations. Any advice is really appreciated. Also THANK YOU to everyone who serves. I am a big fan!! 



1st: Like we were explaining to Spartan0331, age is NOT a factor depending on where you want to go. With MOST Federal Law Enforcement Agencies.... age is NOT a disqualifying factor.


2nd: Most federal Agencies REQUIRE 1 YEAR OF PAST EXPERIENCE or EDUCATION (DEGREES IN CJ). So your education may qualify you for a Federal LEO position. Most likely.... the agency will be more than happy to place you in an administrative position because your education best suits you in that position. I know for a fact that with DLA... The Officers take turns doing dispatch and desk officer because we dont have personnel that want that position on a perminant basis. If we get 3 people that want to dispatch.... we wont have to rotate anymore.


3rd: Post an introduction of yourself in the appropriate forum.

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 Thank you for your reply. I dont know what you mean by #3. Can you explain in more detail the “appropriate forum” 

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 Thank you for your reply. I dont know what you mean by #3. Can you explain in more detail the “appropriate forum” 



Follow this link: http://policelink.monster.com/discussions/130-introductions/topics read the first 3 locked threads and them post your introduction.

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Thanks TLeeworth

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 Hi I'm a 41 year old woman who finally found her calling. Went back to school last year. Will be getting my AS in International Relations. I realize its almost a dead end to become a Federal Agent. My career goal is to specialize in human trafficking. I'm very highly physically fit. I train 5 days a week, everything from Krav Maga to the shooting range. I am not a veteran and has no prior LE experience. What should I major in for my BA? Also what kind of experience should I build to try to get a job in Human Trafficking? Should I become a cop for a couple years? Or is working for a private security and recovery firm in equivalent to being a cop? 

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On the federal law enforcement thing - I have checked for federal jobs in the past couple of years, and EVERY federal law enforcement job that has been posted had an age limit of 38, UNLESS you are currently in federal law enforcement or coming from active-duty military.  I even looked at NCIS, and they had the same age limit.


As for the "age discrimination" charge - while one court may have ruled that way (and there is no information on that to substantiate the claim), generally, it is not regarded as discrimination, due to the nature of the job.  Law enforcement is a very physical job, and courts have ruled that when a condition is specifically job-related, it can be made an exception (for lack of a better word) to the discrimination laws.  However, the industry has to show how age affects being able to perform the job, which law enforcement has been able to do.  To the person who posted about the court case - please provide some kind of citation.  I'd like to see it, just for my own information.


FInally - as for being "too old" for law enforcement, you may exceed hiring age limits for large departments.  I'm not familiar with Ohio (even though I lived there for a long time), but where I am now, it is mandated by law that departments in jurisdictions over a certain population cannot hire over a certain age - I think it's 38.  The same goes here for firefighters.  The department I work for, as well as most of the smaller towns, do not fall under that law, so they can hire any age, so long as they can pass the entry physical exam.


To find out certification requirements for Ohio, contact Ohio Police Officer Standards and Training (POST).  They can tell you exactly what is required, and how to go about doing it.


Good luck!


 

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Now that your question has been answered by a few members, might I suggest something;


Scroll down to the bottom of the page, click on the "Terms of Use" tab and read through them. Then, after that...post an introduction and tell us a little bit about yourself. After you do that, I am sure that you will recieve many more annswers to your questions.


A good idea! You'll receive more effecitive answer.



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I am 35 and I am going for it!!!! Most guys and gals at the academy here are in there early 20s but Im pretty fit and I think I can hang


with them my thoughts is if you want to do it I say let nothing stand in your way.

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