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Hey guys, I need some advice on an off duty handgun. I'm just coming out of the academy and am looking for something that I can conceal and is good for a female with petite hands that doesn't have a huge kick to it. Any ideas??? Also what would you suggest for a holster? I'm thinking of concealing it  in the small of my back. What's your recommendations???


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It would be simple for me to sit here and tell you that "Brand X" is all you will ever need, however the reality is this; what I deem as acceptable may not be acceptable for you. I would recommend going to local gun shops/gun shows and handling a few to see what fits your hand. If you have friends that are gun savvy, you may want to appeal to their experience and knowledge. You may even see if you can tag along on the next shooting outing or range day. Nothing in the world will help more than actually getting to try various makes/models/calibers out and seeing how they actually feel/perform.


Carrying SOB has some serious disadvantages. It may be uncomfortable while in the car (or any other seated position), it will hurt like hell if you end up on your back, and it takes longer to present the weapon should the situation dictate it; it's an entirely different drawstroke. Not trying to discourage, just giving you some things to think about.

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Carrying SOB has some serious disadvantages. It may be uncomfortable while in the car (or any other seated position), it will hurt like hell if you end up on your back, and it takes longer to present the weapon should the situation dictate it; it's an entirely different drawstroke. Not trying to discourage, just giving you some things to think about.



 


 


Thanks for the advice. What's your preference on the whereabouts of a concealed carry?


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Strong side inside the waistband is a good choice.  Paddle holsters are more difficult to conceal especially with lighter wieght clothing.  Typically the butt of the pistol causes the biggest problem to keep it concealed.  If you wear short shirts or coats barrel length become a problem hence the inside the waistband addressing both concerns


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There are hundreds of acceptable set ups for ccw.  If you are interested in revolvers (which I highly recommend) then try a Smith&Wesson .38 body guard.  Inside the waist band or even a strong side pocket holster would work.

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As far as carry options inside the waistband has always been my preferred carry.  I do also ankle carry sometimes and pocket carry (needs to be a very small weapon).  Decide which calibre you want then go from there.  There are a lot of good CCW choices out there.  I don't know how your department works but in mine with some limitations we can carry about anything off duty.  What may be helpful is to see what others you know/work with are carrying and then see if you can try out their weapons. 

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Depends on the season. During the winter months when a jacket is worn, I normally wear a paddle/pancake setup. Summer months, IWB with an untucked polo shirt to conceal.


Just a thought, Galco makes a line of purses that have an internal holster. Not sure if you're a purse type or not.

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All depends what feels good to you. If you dont mind bulky, the Glock and S&W MP sub compacts are great choices. If you want a slimmer and smaller pistol than look at the Kahr Arms, Kel Tec, and Taurus line of pistol. I personally carry a Ruger LCP in .380. It does not pack a big punch but I can fit it in my front pocket and no one knows the difference. It is a great small pistol, but you do need to practice shooting it because the sights are very small. They also make a laser for the Ruger LCP but I do not have one. If you want to go with a Revolver try the S&W or Ruger Revolver, I have heard nothing but great things. Anyways you can check em out and choose for yourself. Hope you find one and enjoy your shooting experience.


As far as holsters go. Every line of pistol has there own unique holster to choose from. So that is also something you will need to look at once you find the pistol.


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This question seems to surface from time to time.

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This question seems to surface from time to time.



Yea about once a week in some form or another.

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Find something that is comfortable for you.  When you pick it up it will feel good, thats the one for you.  Also small of the back is a terrible spot, carry your off duty weapon the same spot where your duty holster  is.  Muscle memory takes over under stress, the last thing you want is to be searching for your weapon if you need it off duty.

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 Glock 26 also known as baby eagle. It can hold 10+1 9mm and it is a subcompact gun. I use Summer Galco holster I believe for mine with wilderness rigger belt.

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Thank you everyone for the advise. I'll keep you posted on what I decide to get. Have a Merry Christmas and be safe out there!


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You need to rethink regarding carrying in the small of your back. I didn't know people really carry that way.

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What is your duty weapon?  I usually base my off duty weapon on the duty weapon I am assigned.  Right now my duty weapon is Smith & Wesson MP40 so I went with the MP40 Compact.  Carried in the same location as duty weapon, strong side belt holster.  Back in the day when we carried revolvers I was assigned Smith & Wesson Model 66.  Off duty was Smith & Wesson Model 66  2 3/4 inch round but in a strong side pancake holster.  I would try to stay with something very simular to my duty weapon carried in as close to the same location.

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I was thinking the exact same thing....and also agree, small of back? No good. Thats how a criminal wears their pistol when they know they are breaking the law carrying it.


Original poster? Are you a commissioned police officer yet? Do you have a concealed handgun license? You said you graduated the academy, but are you working yet?


Another poster mentioned duty weapon...good place to start. Is your duty weapon a weapon suitable to be concealed with a paddle holster? Is it small enough that it could actually be carried in a pocket? I personally stay away from carrying my pistol off duty in any fashion that doesnt make it easily accessible if someone is in front (or behind or on the flanks) presenting me with a deadly force situation. I carry my pistol on duty in two fashions...on duty rig on my hip for most warrants, and drop leg on my thigh for high risk warrants. Since I cant carry high risk style off duty, I always carry my off duty pistol in a paddle holster on my belt since thats how I have spent a great deal of my training.


In a high stress situation, you WILL revert to your training assuming your training was worth the price you paid for it in the academy. Your hand will go to where it is used to deholstering your weapon. That should tell you where you should keep it.

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First off I would find a weapon your comfortable with in both size, caliber and control.  
The hardest part is holster and concealment. There have been so many very knowledgeable authors that have written about finding the perfect holster/weapon/ clothing options.
I feel women have an advantage. A woman can get away with over shirts, open ¾ knit sweaters and the like year round. There are purses designed for CCW. However if you see a man with a fanny pack or a vest in the summer you just assume he is carrying.  
However there are a lot of obstacles to overcome. Women’s cloths are typically form fitting and women’s clothing is usually for fashion and not function.
YouTube has a lot of videos by women for concealed carry options.
Soon you will join the ranks of those men and women before you who have had invested a lot into finding the perfect fit.  I have a box of holsters that were tried and failed. You may even have a few pistols that you tried and failed too.


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I am curious if you are active law enforcement. Off duty indicates to me you are a fully commissioned police officer. Thanks for your response.

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First off, you need to check with your department to see what their policy is regarding off-duty carry, minimum caliber, holster type etc.  Once that is established, get with some of your fellow officers to see what and how they carry and then try some of them out.  How much you have to spend will be a factor, but should not the over riding factor, your defense weapon selection is not the time to go cheap.  I would not recommend the small of back carry for the above stated reasons.  Strong side carry, either in or out of the pants, gun purse and / or shoulder holster depending upon your build.

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Small of the back is a good choice, As long as you are not going to be doing a lot of sitting. Pancake on your strong side is also a good choice. 380 cal. is probably a decent choice but the round is a bit inferior for my taste. Do not rule out a good old 38 cal. revolver. Better caliber than the 380 but less rounds. Try them all and pick what you feel most comfortable with and what you are most proficient with. Let me know,


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Thanks for the advice everyone. Uncledennis1 and Anonymous, I am not a sworn officer yet. I graduated three weeks ago from the academy and still looking for a position to open up. I didn't realize that the department I chose would determine the kind of off duty handgun I would wear. I'm glad I've decided not to get one for Christmas and wait a little longer. Hopefully I'll get picked up by a dept soon and then i can focus on the handgun. I'll definitely take everyone's advice :-)


Thanks again everyone,


Felicia


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Not to nit pick your opening comments, it would lead one to believe you are active law enforcement. Off duty carry should be replaced with concealed carry. You are getting ahead of yourself with the term "off duty"

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I am in love with the HK P2000. Expensive but it feels good, fits my hand, doesn't talk back...hahaha...Go to a range and try some stuff out and see what you feel more comfortable with.


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 Rache has a great idea Felica!  I recommend Eagle1 in Raleigh.  Check it out and if you go, tell them I sent you!  Better yet, I'll go with ya! 


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I can carry my ruger lcp in my pocket and two extra clips, love that little midget gun

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I can carry my ruger lcp in my pocket and two extra clips, love that little midget gun


 


 


 


I heard that was a pretty good little weapon!



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If you have small hands look as the  Glock model 26, 9mm. It's a pretty sweet little gun ! Oh, and DON'T carrry in the small of your back. If you end up on your back, think NERVE DAMAGE if you land hard enough !!!


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Go with what works, and what suits you.  I'm 6foot 250lbs  I conceal carry everyday everywhere I go.  I carry a large frame auto particularly the Springfield XD .40.  Now my wife on the other hand is petite with small hands.  I'll tell you what I told her, lets go to the gunshop and see whats comfortable, you'll know it when you feel it.  It will fit like a glove.  She favored the older beretta compacts like the cougar .380(unfortunatly they don't make that model anymore, but bersa I believe makes an identical model)  I'm not a fan of compacts but I'm a bigger dood.  Don't worry about caliber they make compacts in every caliber now  from .22LR to .45ACP.  Go with what YOU feel comfortable with not what the dude behind the counter says.  He's trying to make a sale.  Good luck!

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a Colt  380-government model.

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a Colt  380-government model.



That the Mustang and Pony have been discontinued.  Finding replacement parts for those that wear out or break will be increasingly difficult to find.  The Sig P238 is a close clone


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