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Palm_in_sunset_max50

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Posted about 4 years ago

 

I'm considering a Ruger .380 semi-auto.  I'm a female and I want something that when I have to fire at someone, they won't keep coming at me.  Any thoughts? 


 


I'm wondering what the majority of you carry and why you chose same.

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First off we will need more information.  Is this a firearm you intend to carry concealed, or is it strictly for home defense?  A .380 is a marginal calibre and in that small of a weapon will be a handfull to shoot.  That being said I own a .380 and when I carry it I feel that it can get the job done.  NO handgun is garanteed to stop someone immediatly.  All handguns are poor manstoppers.  Shot placement in whatever you carry is the key to stopping the attack.  The only way to ensure good shot placement is to practice.  Make sure whatever you buy is a weapon that you are willing to shoot enough to be proficient with.

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Consult with a professional firearms instructor who can give advice on various handguns and teach you some shooting skills. Test fire several handguns. You may wish to google some handguns which interest you. I assume you are a beginner.

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I prefer "an official Red Ryder carbine-action 200-shot range model air rifle with a compass in the stock, and this thing which tells time."  (Sorry, couldn't resist.)


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jdmacfam says ...



I'm considering a Ruger .380 semi-auto.  I'm a female and I want something that when I have to fire at someone, they won't keep coming at me.  Any thoughts?  


I'm wondering what the majority of you carry and why you chose same.


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Uh, this is kinda weird. You said "... when I have to fire at someone,..


What the heck is with the "WHEN" ?


You scheduling a problem? "WHEN"?


See uncledennis1's post directly above this post. It reeks with sensibility.


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Yup, listen to UncleDennis on this one. You will probably find the Ruger .380 is not for you. The .380 is not a powerful round and is also getting harder to find that ammo around here because it is unpopular. Talk to your local firearms expert and then confirm what he told you with some of the local guys down at the PD to see if he really knows what he is talking about.

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I prefer "an official Red Ryder carbine-action 200-shot range model air rifle with a compass in the stock, and this thing which tells time."  (Sorry, couldn't resist.)



 


 


 


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Well, I tried to stay vague so that I could get opinion as to the weapon itself (brand, caliber, force, etc.) but I guess I should've considered I'm dealing with a sarcastic humorous bunch here.


When is easily construed within the meaning of the sentence.  I could have used "if" and pulled it off in the same way I suppose. 


For more information:  I am a female.  Yes, I am a beginner.  I start the academy in January.  I am looking for something I can practice with but also thinking about the function of the weapon down the road.  Considering that some people get doped up on things that make them believe they are super human, and this takes me back to my original post, if, when, should it becomes necessary, {insert choice of words appropriate in your opinion} I would not want one of those "self-proclamed superhumans" to get at me because I shot them a few times and they keep coming and now they're really pissed.  I've been told that this has happened to people (using a 9) before.  Perhaps that was false information.  Perhaps, that is why I am here asking you experienced and knowledgeable, yet sarcastic people for advice.  Luckily for me, I am as sarcastic as they come and I can roll with the punches. 


Thank you uncledennis for the advice.  I will contact our local shooting club and see if I can meet with someone there.  I just like to gather many opinions on certain subjects when time allows.  Oh, I love the movie from which the Red Rider reference came from, I watch it every year as I wrap my kids' presents, and my name is not Ralphie!   (%!@#$@!$)

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jdmacfam says ...



Well, I tried to stay vague so that I could get opinion as to the weapon itself (brand, caliber, force, etc.) but I guess I should've considered I'm dealing with a sarcastic humorous bunch here.


When is easily construed within the meaning of the sentence.  I could have used "if" and pulled it off in the same way I suppose. 


For more information:  I am a female.  Yes, I am a beginner.  I start the academy in Janruary.   I am looking for something I can practice with but also thinking about the function of the weapon down the road.  Considering that some people get doped up on things that make them believe they are super human, and this takes me back to my original post, if, when, should it becomes necessary, {insert choice of words appropriate in your opinion} I would not want one of those "self-proclamed superhumans" to get at me because I shot them a few times and they keep coming and now they're really pissed.  I've been told that this has happened to people (using a 9) before.  Perhaps that was false information.  Perhaps, that is why I am here asking you experienced and knowledgeable, yet sarcastic people for advice.  Luckily for me, I am as sarcastic as they come and I can roll with the punches. 


Thank you uncledennis for the advice.  I will contact our local shooting club and see if I can meet with someone there.  I just like to gather many opinions on certain subjects when time allows.  Oh, I love the movie from which the Red Rider reference came from, I watch it every year as I wrap my kids' presents, and my name is not Ralphie!   (%!@#$@!$)



I don't know if you are self sponsering or being sent by an agency, either way you will probably not be able to use a .380 in the academy, most require at least a 9 mm.  If you are being sent by an agency, I would find out what kind of duty pistol that they use and go from there, if you are self sponsering, I would check with the agencies you plan  on aopplying to and see what they use as duty weapons and go from there. Regardless, i would not consider a .380, except as a backup weapon.  If agencies give you a choice and you have to furnish your own duty weapon, follow uncledennis1's advice.

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Casscocop says ...



jdmacfam says ...



Well, I tried to stay vague so that I could get opinion as to the weapon itself (brand, caliber, force, etc.) but I guess I should've considered I'm dealing with a sarcastic humorous bunch here.


When is easily construed within the meaning of the sentence.  I could have used "if" and pulled it off in the same way I suppose. 


For more information:  I am a female.  Yes, I am a beginner.  I start the academy in Janruary.   I am looking for something I can practice with but also thinking about the function of the weapon down the road.  Considering that some people get doped up on things that make them believe they are super human, and this takes me back to my original post, if, when, should it becomes necessary, {insert choice of words appropriate in your opinion} I would not want one of those "self-proclamed superhumans" to get at me because I shot them a few times and they keep coming and now they're really pissed.  I've been told that this has happened to people (using a 9) before.  Perhaps that was false information.  Perhaps, that is why I am here asking you experienced and knowledgeable, yet sarcastic people for advice.  Luckily for me, I am as sarcastic as they come and I can roll with the punches. 


Thank you uncledennis for the advice.  I will contact our local shooting club and see if I can meet with someone there.  I just like to gather many opinions on certain subjects when time allows.  Oh, I love the movie from which the Red Rider reference came from, I watch it every year as I wrap my kids' presents, and my name is not Ralphie!   (%!@#$@!$)



I don't know if you are self sponsering or being sent by an agency, either way you will probably not be able to use a .380 in the academy, most require at least a 9 mm.  If you are being sent by an agency, I would find out what kind of duty pistol that they use and go from there, if you are self sponsering, I would check with the agencies you plan  on aopplying to and see what they use as duty weapons and go from there. Regardless, i would not consider a .380, except as a backup weapon.  If agencies give you a choice and you have to furnish your own duty weapon, follow uncledennis1's advice.



Thanks for this advice.  I am self-sponsoring.  Most of the cities/towns in my area do not have the funds available for academy training.  I could apply at a larger city such as Akron or Cleveland who does sponsor but I would rather stay close to home and start out in a smaller setting.  I'm attending Kent State Police Academy which supplies a weapon.  I'm looking to buy one for practice.  It would be nice if you could walk into Dicks or Gander Mtn. and shoot off a few rounds to decide which one to buy!


 


On another note, my husband read somewhere that a dealer in Florida is giving people who buy a truck (not sure what brand, etc.) are being given a certificate to get a free AK-47!  You still have to pass the requirements for owning it and what not but I thought this was crazy!

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On another note, my husband read somewhere that a dealer in Florida is giving people who buy a truck (not sure what brand, etc.) are being given a certificate to get a free AK-47!  You still have to pass the requirements for owning it and what not but I thought this was crazy!


Years ago there was a Ford dealership in my area that would give a way a Winchester 30-30 with a new truck purchase.  They ran the offer every fall around hunting season. 

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As far as buying a gun to practice with I wouldn't recomend buying a .380. (nothing against the caliber I just bought my wife the new kahr .380, but thats another topic in it's self) The size of the gun can make them a little uncomfertable to shoot for any length of time. I would consider looking at a full size weapon maybe even the one that the academy is supplying you with. Or one that most of the depatmens are carrying in your area. Then once you graduate if you get with a department that does not supply a duty weapon, that is one less expense. Then you can worry about buying a weapon for a back up or other needs.


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Thanks for the follow-up comments. I get a better picture of who is talking.


I'm not gonna be all sweetie-schmeetie and appeal to your lack of experience.


Do NOT buy a gun.


Your commentary reveals a definite lack of LEO training. Attend and go through the academy and THEN you will know.


If you 'practice' now without the direct supervision of a qualified LEO Firearms Instructor / Rangemaster (NOT an NRA instructor), you risk immediately getting into bad weapons handling habits that will not be relevant in your Academy training.


Here are a couple of things you will learn: "Smooth is fast. Fast is smooth." "Shot placement". "Center mass". "Tap, rack, assess." "Move to cover". And a whole lot more. You will learn that there is NO magic bullet except a .50 cal or above. You will learn that there is no theme song, no special theater lighting, no CGI and no commercial breaks in our work. It is a hell-a frightening way to live for 20+ years, from boredom to not even hearing your weapon discharge if used.


Let the Academy train you. Do not self-train.


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TheSarge says ...


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I'm not in a hurry to buy anything.  I'm not looking for hand-holding so I appreciate the upfront and forward responses.  Thanks for the heads up and I appreciate the "insight" into what to expect.  That is one of the reasons I joined this forum.  I'm not joining the academy for the theatrics.  It's something I've considered since I was in college (I graduated in 2003).  BTW - I barely watch tv but I do enjoy the HBO series The Wire!! =)

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JD, LOL....my academy class motto (got it on a T shirt) was:  "Slow is smooth, smooth is fast".


If you want to do some reading on handling a handgun quickly & accurately, do a search for "Brian Enos".  He has a website with discussion forum.  He's a grand master IPSC shooter who's written a book about the psycho/physical aspects of sport shooting with a handgun.  It will help prepare you for the time, as someone already alluded to, when you don't even hear your firearm discharge.

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As a probation officer, .380 would work for me, but I have different needs than a LEO. I just need a self-defense weapon - something to help me defend myself while I get the heck out of a home visit gone south and retreat to a posiition of safety so I can call for help. In Texas, a probation officer (if his or her department allows its officers to carry) needs a weapon that they can qualify out to 25 yards with, and it has to be carried concelead. I have a Bersa Thunder .380, and it is completely reliable with just about any ammo. It's very easy to carry concealed (like down my front pants pocket), and qualifying out to 25 yards on it would be a cinch. I have complete faith that it will save my tail when loaded-up with good self-defense ammo like Federal Hydrashoks (my favorite) or Corbon DPX.


However, if my department would let me carry I'd rather carry my Taurus Model 85 (.38 spcl). It is also easy to conceal, and anybody who puts in range time like he or she should is going to be able to qualify out to 25 yards on it. I know I could. Loaded-up with the Speer NYPD load, I don't think there is any question that it would be more than adequate to neutralize a threat during a home visit gone south. I think my Bersa is adequate, but I think the snubby with the Speer NYPD load is much better.


I'm licensed to carry a concealed weapon. I like both my Bersa and my Taurus, and I'll carry either one depending on what I'm wearing. I think either one meets my self-defense needs, and I like the fact that I can put either one in an Uncle Mike's pocket holster and drop down my right front pants pocket. Either one is easy to conceal, easy to deploy, accurate and well-made, and either one gives me what I consider to be acceptable fire-power when loaded-up with premium self-defense ammo. I just like the snubby better.


If you're going to go with a .380 for range practice, I'd recommmend a Bersa since they're inexpensive and I think that they are enjoyable to shoot. They're also a snap to break down and clean.

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If you haven't owned/carried a gun until now, why not wait until during or after your firearms program in the Academy?  I just graduated from the Academy (I was "top gun" whoo-hoo!) and I can assure you that you will have adequate access to experienced firearms experts.  Get proficient with whatever your academy uses (ours was Glock 9mm) and talk to your instructors about what you are purchasing for.  If it is practice until you get hired, consider that if a department issues you a gun, it will likely be a Glock (but not necessarily). 


I'm kind of in the same boat, going through the hiring process, and trying to decide if I should buy a full sized Glock to practice with, or get a concealed carry/backup type gun until I know where I will work (like maybe a "baby" glock).


Also, once you become an officer, you can buy guns for a lot less money than you can now.  I'd say do all your academy training, learn there, talk to instructors, and see if you can test drive some guns.  There's bound to be a gun-freak or two among your classmates that will have a bunch of guns you can try at the range.


Also, at my academy, they HIGHLY recommend NOT practicing on your own, at least until you've started FA classes.  As some of the others mentioned, you are better off with the highly professional instruction you will receive at the academy than you will be teaching yourself improper techniques on your own.  Also, you will shoot a sh#t-load at the academy.  It would be best to get something and practice afterwards if you don't get hired right away.


Hope that helps some, good luck at the academy, it is a TON of fun if you are into the stuff you are learning and have a good group and good instructors like I did!