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I was prettty much Forced to Resign or they, the Sheriff's Office said they had to Fire me...I was Off-Duty and as a Firefighter. I, and the rest of the dept. was hosting our annual Firemens Dance. After the dance I got involved in a "Domestic Violence" incident, that involved myself subdueing an intoxicated male subject, before Uniformed Officers got to the scene, after he had assaulted two(2) females. **Up-date**


My name is Fabian Ysker, the Corrections Officer that was made to Resign or be Fired, and Terminated as a Police Officer/ Reserve. I do hold the title Firefighter-10yrs.


A little more to what had happened that night...I, as being off-duty, and unscheduled to work from the Jail,on a Saturday night, enjoying the night with the Community,  fellow Firefighters and my Wife. Wrapping things up from the dance, my  wife & I saw an old friend (I'll call "N") we haven't seen in a while. As we were all talking, our female friend that we were talking to, her friend (I'll call "T" receieved a phone call. When T was done with the call, she said, she had some bad news. That was her daughter,T's, she was just talking to, and that N's husband said several "sexual remarks and made"sexual advances" at her, before leaving N's house. T's daughter was babsitting N's 4yo.


This of course pissed off "N", and she was ready to drive straight home, which is in another town. I was the only one able to grab her and control her, before she got too far. Between my wife, T & I we kept her under control. We all then went to T's home, same town as I live in, and check on T's daughter to see how she is doing. "N" wanted to call the cops to have him thrown out, or at least gone by the time she got home, because she didn't want nothing to do with anymore. I called down to dispatch for her since I knew who was on duty, and gave a quick run down. While I was on the phone with dispatch "N" wanted to talk. "N" hung up the phone and were heading to my place. Town  I'll call "V" and that's where we all headed, all4 of us. I called back to dispatch, they informed me that the Deputies were all busy and as soon as they get freed up they would head over, and investigate. I then told dispatch the status of what was going on, and gave the name of  Town and address, along with my duty call sign, when I'm on duty as an Reserve. I just had a feeling?


My wife drives my truck, following "N" & "T" in N's truck to Town-V. My wife and I are block away, and we spot N's truck parked in the drive-way and her making a bee-line some where towards the rear, in between the house and garage. My wife parks my truck not quite a block away and we walk up the street to meet up with "T" who is in the drive-way who starts walking our way. As I walk onto the concrete portion of the drive-way, I'm met by 2, not so gentlemen, asking me. "Who the f**k are you, and what the f**k are you here?" Since I didn't answer them right away, 1 of the shorter men swung at me. I ducked, and shoved him hard enough, that it looked like I threw him, because he was so short. Then the other guy just kinda took a step back then ran his mouth off.

While this whole time I can hear "N" arguing with a male subject. The other 2 goons left, after my wife mentioned that the little girl doesn't need to hear this, and my took the little girl into the house. "T" went to check on "N", then I heard all 3 of them arguing.


I then went inside the privacy fence between the garage and house. As I walked in from the gate, I heard a male cursing up a storm at "N" &"T, (the only light there was, was the light from the garage.) then a "Slapping" sound, "N" Yelled out, "Don't you ever slap me again" then witnessed "T" get  thrown to the ground. I started shouting, "Stop"  "Calm Down"  "You Need To Stop", repeatedly at the male subject, but just ignored me. Then as I as got closer to "T" to check on her, then the male subject acknowldged me.

The male, I'll call "S", then asked me..."What the f**k I was going to do about it". I told him he just needed to calm down. THEN it happened, "S" blind sided me and punched in the mouth. "N" trying to be helpful to me.Yelled out, You just hit an off duty cop, I kept moving and dodging out of the way as much as I could, and giving directives to stop. 

"S" is 6'0'' 200lbs and intoxicated Native American, and his property and he doesn't like COPs. My profile 5'5", 145lbs and couldn't see because of the poor lighting. "S" kept charging and swinging at me. "N" tried helping by saying repeatedly to "S" to: "Stop he's an Off-Duty Cop!"  I radioed in to dispatch on my 2-way, using my Call Sign, that "I have just been assaulted" and physical address. Before I could finish giving address he then connected another one that landed on the side of my forehead.

I tried to repeat the address again while moving and dodging his fists, I was able to give full address before he got me a third time, then I decided 3 strkes your our out. I was able to get 2 good connections, then he fell to his knee's, and his chest up against the lower portion of the deck.


A prior State Corrections Officer, I had my own personal handcuffs that I kept in the truck. As I mentioned earlier, about feelings. I had a gut feeling when my wife and I left the truck and started walking towards the driveway.


So when "S" was at his knee's and his upper body against the lower part of the deck, I was able to cuff his left hand before he knew it, and gave him the direct orders for his right hand. He complied after a slight resistance. Finally get him subdued. "N" is so pissed she comes over and starts kicking him, so now I have fend her off of him. Then, 2 Deputies, 2 Troopers and a GFand Park Officer arrive.


Don't work weekends at the Jail. I VOLUNTEER MY TIME in as a Police Officer/Reserve. Inncident Occured in Different Town. I had some drinks. I Never drove. I Witness a male assault 2 females, and it was on the Assaulter & Assaulted property.




I get put on Pd. Admin. Lv. for 5 days, 8/30/10 - 9/3/2010 and on the 5th day, get called in and  told to sign resignation papers, because it would better for you and your Resume that you resigned, then for us, SO, to Fire you!


So I am pleased to annouce NOVEMBER 02/2010, ALL Complaints Dismissed, and Still jobless.


So there you have it my few PL friends and the skeptics

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This story is a convoluted mess! I had to re-read this a few times to make some sense out of it. And Im still not clear on some things.


First off you say you were "Off duty and as a Firefighter" a Corrections Officer and a Reserve Police Officer? Well sounds like you had a pretty full plate there. I have never known Firefighters to have second jobs...usually because of the unique schedules they work and they take advantage of their time off. But who knows.. maybe its different where you live.  I will also have to say Im lacking in knowledge what exactly a Reserve Officer can do while off duty.


You say "I do hold the title Firefighter-10 yrs." But at the end of this saga.. you say "still jobless" So which is it? Are you still a firefighter or not?


Then you go on to contradict yourself by saying "A prior State Corrections Officer, I had my own personal handcuffs that I kept in the truck. " Yet in the 3rd paragraph you say "I as being off-duty and unscheduled to work from the jail"..I dont know of any Reserve Officers or Firefighters that work in a Jail..so Im gonna assume you were a CURRENT Corrections Officer.  And if you were acting on your "gut feelings" in your capacity as a "Corrections Officer" your gut should have kicked you in your head. You have absolutely NO Jurisdiction or Power to arrest  anyone who is not an inmate inside of the jail. 


And why are you dragging your wife into a potentially volatile situation like this?! Youre a little short guy thats been drinking, armed with a pair of handcuffs trying to fight some cop hating giants in a poorly lit area.  Guess your "gut feelings" were on vacation...wow.


I dont like to play Monday Morning quarterback and I will admit, Im at a disadvantage to comment intelligently about your capacity as  Reserve Officer- And what you can do as an "Off Duty Reserve Officer" 


 But what I do know, is that you exercised poor judgement. 



  • You get involved in a situation after you had consumed alcohol

  • You really shouldnt have got involved in this situation at all. "I called dispatch since I knew who was on duty that nite" was that for show? Trying to impress people? "N" was perfectly capable of dialing 911 for assistance. She didnt need you to do that.

  • Seems like dispatch was pretty clear.. they would send over Deputies when they were free. WHich sounds like to me, this was not a priority call.

  • Why didnt you just go home and wait for the real on duty officers to arrive and handle the situation?

  • "It looked like I threw him because he was so short." what was he a Midget?? Have you checked the height charts lately? Your really short for a man..  you're only 5"5! Im even  taller than you are!

I think that your "resignation"  was a service to yourself and the community.


 


 

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My wife drives my truck, following "N" & "T" in N's truck to Town-V. My wife and I are block away, and we spot N's truck parked in the drive-way and her making a bee-line some where towards the rear, in between the house and garage.


 


 



 


I think I got it…The whole thing is just a big math word problem.
The answer is 7.

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This story is a convoluted mess! I had to re-read this a few times to make some sense out of it. And Im still not clear on some things.


First off you say you were "Off duty and as a Firefighter" a Corrections Officer and a Reserve Police Officer? Well sounds like you had a pretty full plate there. I have never known Firefighters to have second jobs...usually because of the unique schedules they work and they take advantage of their time off. But who knows.. maybe its different where you live.  I will also have to say Im lacking in knowledge what exactly a Reserve Officer can do while off duty.


You say "I do hold the title Firefighter-10 yrs." But at the end of this saga.. you say "still jobless" So which is it? Are you still a firefighter or not?


Then you go on to contradict yourself by saying "A prior State Corrections Officer, I had my own personal handcuffs that I kept in the truck. " Yet in the 3rd paragraph you say "I as being off-duty and unscheduled to work from the jail"..I dont know of any Reserve Officers or Firefighters that work in a Jail..so Im gonna assume you were a CURRENT Corrections Officer.  And if you were acting on your "gut feelings" in your capacity as a "Corrections Officer" your gut should have kicked you in your head. You have absolutely NO Jurisdiction or Power to arrest  anyone who is not an inmate inside of the jail. 


And why are you dragging your wife into a potentially volatile situation like this?! Youre a little short guy thats been drinking, armed with a pair of handcuffs trying to fight some cop hating giants in a poorly lit area.  Guess your "gut feelings" were on vacation...wow.


I dont like to play Monday Morning quarterback and I will admit, Im at a disadvantage to comment intelligently about your capacity as  Reserve Officer- And what you can do as an "Off Duty Reserve Officer" 


 But what I do know, is that you exercised poor judgement. 



  • You get involved in a situation after you had consumed alcohol

  • You really shouldnt have got involved in this situation at all. "I called dispatch since I knew who was on duty that nite" was that for show? Trying to impress people? "N" was perfectly capable of dialing 911 for assistance. She didnt need you to do that.

  • Seems like dispatch was pretty clear.. they would send over Deputies when they were free. WHich sounds like to me, this was not a priority call.

  • Why didnt you just go home and wait for the real on duty officers to arrive and handle the situation?

  • "It looked like I threw him because he was so short." what was he a Midget?? Have you checked the height charts lately? Your really short for a man..  you're only 5"5! Im even  taller than you are!


I think that your "resignation"  was a service to yourself and the community.


 


 


Well, I guess I'm sorry to bring this up to the Law Enforcement Community for discussion, when there is nothing really yo discuss I guess. But, to try to put the record straight...


I'm a VOLUNTEER  Firefighter, non-paid service provider to my Community. 


I was a VOLUNTEER Police Reserves Officer, a non-paid service provider to my Community.


And my FULL TIME JOB was working at the Jail.




 


I was not show boating. My wife knew "N" longer than I did, reasoning that they grew up in the same town. I'm not from the same community as my wife.


Intension were, that we were going to wait for Uniformed Officicers. N was the who jumped out impatiently. The other 2 males. I'm sorry for not being a man I guess for being only 5'5", but Im 5'6", 1 inch type-o doesn't matter. Anyways' the other short and tall males high tailed out, when "T" called 911.


"Domestic Violence" is considered a priority call where Im from.


Hope this clears alot more up. Again, Sorry to bring up such a non discussion.




 


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Fabian says ...



My wife drives my truck, following "N" & "T" in N's truck to Town-V. My wife and I are block away, and we spot N's truck parked in the drive-way and her making a bee-line some where towards the rear, in between the house and garage.


 


 



 


I think I got it…The whole thing is just a big math word problem.
The answer is 7.

Wow, Sorry to confuse everyone. This is my first time doing an on-line discussion. If it helps.

N= Nadine,  T=Teresa,  S=Shane and the V=Town of Volga

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I don’t get it. You have been a member since 2007, but the only posts you’ve started are the same. You posted this four days ago and never responded. 

http://policelink.monster.com/topics/78631-corrections-officer/posts

What is your point?

 

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I don’t get it. You have been a member since 2007, but the only posts you’ve started are the same. You posted this four days ago and never responded. 

http://policelink.monster.com/topics/78631-corrections-officer/posts

What is your point?

 Yes, I have been a member since 2007, but I've never had any issues or questions. Yes I posted four days ago, but when I went to reply, it locked me out as a locked discussion, and I was unable to reply.


So mistakenly, I created more than 1  forum which I tried to explain what happened. All that did was confuse everyone, and seems like the more I tried to clarify myself the more people got confused.

I have apologized several times for confusing everyone, on how it jumped around.


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that could be why you got fired, a situation you shouldnt have been involved in and you couldnt explain it clearly. casts some doubt on yr intentions.

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Fabian says ...



MN108 says ...



Fabian says ...



My wife drives my truck, following "N" & "T" in N's truck to Town-V. My wife and I are block away, and we spot N's truck parked in the drive-way and her making a bee-line some where towards the rear, in between the house and garage.


   I think I got it…The whole thing is just a big math word problem.



The answer is 7.

Wow, Sorry to confuse everyone. This is my first time doing an on-line discussion. If it helps.

N= Nadine,  T=Teresa,  S=Shane and the V=Town of Volga



Let me give you a tip: An ONLINE DISCUSSION goes pretty much the same way as an in person, on the phone,  or telephone communication.


And if your reports looked anything like this, I can understand why you are jobless. Maybe you should keep some Communication skills next to those  personal handcuffs you keep in your truck...

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Wait - Nadine, Shane, Teresa and Fabian in the Little Town of Volga???!!



LOLOLOL!!!

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msdiva says ...



Fabian says ...



MN108 says ...



Fabian says ...



My wife drives my truck, following "N" & "T" in N's truck to Town-V. My wife and I are block away, and we spot N's truck parked in the drive-way and her making a bee-line some where towards the rear, in between the house and garage.


   I think I got it…The whole thing is just a big math word problem.



The answer is 7.

Wow, Sorry to confuse everyone. This is my first time doing an on-line discussion. If it helps.

N= Nadine,  T=Teresa,  S=Shane and the V=Town of Volga



Let me give you a tip: An ONLINE DISCUSSION goes pretty much the same way as an in person, on the phone,  or telephone communication.


And if your reports looked anything like this, I can understand why you are jobless. Maybe you should keep some Communication skills next to those  personal handcuffs you keep in your truck...



I was not trying give or write a report. I was giving my side of what had happened, that's all...

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From what I can manage to decipher from your story, this did not become a Domestic Violence matter until you all decided to leave the location of the Firemaen's Dance and head over to "N's" house to confront the husband at that location.  You had already called to PD and alerted them to the situation. You note that "T" told you that "N's" husband had already left the house.  "T" should have told her daughter to take the 4 year old to a neighbor's house until the Police Officers arrived on scene.


You were way out of line in becoming part of a group (You, wife, T & N) going to "N's" house to confront her husband before the Police arrived.  You are lucky that the three males on scene did not beat you senseless, or worse.  You had been drinking, were outnumbered, out of your jurisdiction, and were with three women who could also have been seriously injured, or worse had the situation gotten further out of hand. 


Without knowing ALL of the facts (not just your version of the events) nobody here can make a determination as to whether your resignation/termination was justified or not.  The fact that you were stripped of your Reserve Officer status after being removed from your Corrections Officer position does tend to lead to the conclusion that there are gaps in your version as posted here.


If you came here looking for sympathy, then I think that you are in the wrong place.


By the way, although you were "not trying to wriet a report", your narrative should definitely be better written and make more sense.  For a Law Enforcement Officer that narrative is atrocious!


"Be a yardstick of quality. Some people aren't used to an environment where excellence is expected."
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Fabian says ...



msdiva says ...



Fabian says ...



MN108 says ...



Fabian says ...



My wife drives my truck, following "N" & "T" in N's truck to Town-V. My wife and I are block away, and we spot N's truck parked in the drive-way and her making a bee-line some where towards the rear, in between the house and garage.


   I think I got it…The whole thing is just a big math word problem.



The answer is 7.

Wow, Sorry to confuse everyone. This is my first time doing an on-line discussion. If it helps.

N= Nadine,  T=Teresa,  S=Shane and the V=Town of Volga



Let me give you a tip: An ONLINE DISCUSSION goes pretty much the same way as an in person, on the phone,  or telephone communication.


And if your reports looked anything like this, I can understand why you are jobless. Maybe you should keep some Communication skills next to those  personal handcuffs you keep in your truck...



I was not trying give or write a report. I was giving my side of what had happened, that's all...


 


The question that begs asking is why did you feel the need to post your side of what happened on a public website? 


After reading all the posts and doing some calulations of my own I think MN108 is right the answer is 7.


 


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A CO, Firefighter and a Reserve Police Officer...I bet you got a lot of shiney gadgets to pin on your clothes...MAYBE even some totally awesome flashy lights that you bought 2nd hand at a Flea Market...Can I have your autograph?

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I for one am not going to belittle this guy for trying to hold so many public service jobs or where he lives and frankly you others should not as well. Retleo made the best post here. Your intentions may have actually been good but your actions, maybe clouded by your consumption of alcohol, were wrong and you used very poor judgement. So poor as it bring enough discredit to you that the Sheriff no longer wanted you employed under him. You had no right to do what you did. Your biggest mistake was to take ANY action other than call the Police and leave it with them, period. Going over there was stupid and only lead to inflaming this whole situation. Get rid of your handcuffs, you have no reason to be carrying them.

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A CO, Firefighter and a Reserve Police Officer...I bet you got a lot of shiney gadgets to pin on your clothes...MAYBE even some totally awesome flashy lights that you bought 2nd hand at a Flea Market...Can I have your autograph?



That sounds like the start of a good story!

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ChadT says ...



A CO, Firefighter and a Reserve Police Officer...I bet you got a lot of shiney gadgets to pin on your clothes...MAYBE even some totally awesome flashy lights that you bought 2nd hand at a Flea Market...Can I have your autograph?



That sounds like the start of a good story!



Hello Chad,


When I was Working "Full Time" as a paid  Corrections Officer, my uniforms were issued to me, and I had to turn them All  in, when I was released from the Sheriffs Office.

Same as for the Police Dept., but I was not a paid Officer, I volunteered my time, but all the same, the uniforms and any equipment is issued and signed for.

*Note-all LE Uniforms and equipment, were physically handed to direct Supervisors*


As a Fireifighter,  I'm a volunteer member to a non-profit organization which provides a Fire Supression and Rescue Sevices to the Community.


 

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This one has run its course.  Locked 11-16-10, 1110hrs EST.


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