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Poll: Should Marijuana be legalized for recreational use?

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 Hello, 


I respectfully agree with all opinions here. However, if I was to apply the strict standards on punctuation which most LEO's apply to their enforcement of municipal laws and regulations (many of which are never tested for their compliance to the Constitution of the USA) there would be a 3 armed man's handful worth of LEO's in grammar prison. ( What I am getting at is the large number of grammatical and syntax errors within the four first posts of this thread for all those who are saying "huh"? )


That being said and my syllogism completely understood... (I hope)... if it is your job to uphold the laws mandated by your local, state, and federal government, why would you even consider disregarding those laws, in order to uphold your standard of what society should accept as good or bad if the higher powers have deemed it legal?


Just some thoughts for the mind based on what I have read here ( I logged onto this forum to read about the "Donks" (the cars with the corporate logos, usually advertising candy) and said hey, LEO's aren't as paranoid as I presumed about the way humans express themselves, and try to create their environment, rather than be a product of it. 


Now I will reframe that to say whether these users are breaking the law or not, according to your local interpretation of marijuana laws, why assume marijuana is BAD? Have you used it? You must have at some point to factually say it makes people "idiots, far left liberals... " (just 2 of many judgemental and stereotypical calls made in this thread). How else would you know? I guess via word of mouth and anecdote without ANY factual information. 


Well perhaps my intellectual argument is probably lost on anyone willing to read my 2 cents worth of input, just remember....


A very famous man known (historically recalled to be crucified) for standing up to the corrupt power structure rather than give into it to uphold it out of fear was killed in the most barbaric fashion known to man at the time. 


Need I say by now his name was JESUS CHRIST and he was killed for letting his love and trust of his fellow man overwhelm his fear and paranoia that everyone is EVIL, VILE and WRETCHED. I bet most of you wear his image on your body. He died because of soldiers / police not questioning their morals, and saying "Kill him, We were told to."


One may even compare the conspiracy behind his death to the modern day undercover ops in which deception and LIES are legal to one side, but prosecuted to the fullest for the accused.


To interpret most opinions here, how could one not argue you may be the Judas of modern day society, bound to uphold the laws of your land?


Better yet.... if you guys were around in 1775, which side would you be on? Logic mandates this: if your narrow view of Man's purpose on Earth was to control his fellow man rather than let the powers that be even themselves out (what GOD calls LOVE) and be mindless drones upholding a law without questioning how that affects the idea we call FREEDOM.


Do you love America? I know I do. I appreciate the chance to communicate with all members of society and not judge anyone from my own perceptions or ideas of GOOD / BAD. I do this freely without fear of imprisonment; however, that is not to say I don't expect it. 


Silly me with my ideas of Freedom, God, and Liberty. 


I guess what you see, depends on where you sit. I would love some feedback ☺


 


 


 


 


 


 

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Its not verifiable fact, and I have to admit that.  I got it from some VICE detectives here in town with the LVMPD.  It was during a guest lecture form a class on evidence I was taking a semester or two ago.  He said that most of the cartels lose money on major drugs like heroine and cocaine.  Because it gets caught at the border or in the various jurisdictions across the United States, whereas they make up for losses by pushing large amounts of marijuana into the country.  The detective and his team has worked some international cases like with Ecuador specifically to track and take down contingencies and drugs in both countries.  So it is from a trustworthy source, although it is my own personal extrapolation.  In addition to that even if hispanic cartels are losing money on drugs like heroin and cocaine.  There is still a lot of drugs coming from the golden triangle and golden crescent.  Not just through our Mexican/USA border, but through Canada/USA and major ports of entry at our water ways.  So, I am only making a claim about certain drugs on one border.


 


It would be more accurate for me to say that Mexican Drug cartels make most of their money on marijuana, because although heroine, cocaine can be very lucrative it can easily lead to large losses unlike marijuana trade.


 


That aside it does nothing in disproving the fact that the United States underestimates the danger of marijuana, and that it does not necessarily come from habitual use, but from the source.



Again you are so far off.  Why would coke and heroin be easier to find at the border than marijauna?  It doesn't have the heavy scent and you can get way more product of coke and heroin, which is way more profitable and undetectable, in the same size space you put marijuana.  You just don't make sense in your argument.  YES it IS a drug and it IS ILLEGAL!!!  It is a gateway drug and it is wrong.  We get that but going to measures of making inaccurate stories up is ludacris


 


I have it on paper (water marked by the DOD and US Army South), that ____ was imported by the same people trying to stop ____ from entering the country, meanwhile funneling the money to See Eye Aye ops (this is 1985 mind you). Money which was used to arm the scumbags we have spent trillions trying to stop (Al queda anyone?). I think this ties into the self perpetuating cycle of the drug industry itself. Yes the cartels south of here are scum too, with no morals other than profit, but there is a higher system keeping this going. 


Just my thoughts. 


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IMHO....The LE community and the community in general have to worry about prescription drugs ALOT more then they have to worry about Marijuana. Weed just makes you lazy, hungry, and stupid. Rx drugs have a "disguise" of being legal drugs through a prescription so people think there are no legal repercussions to abusing them. People are far more likely to abuse prescription medication (painkillers, antidepressants, synthetic amphetamines, etc.) then illegal drugs. Its a serious problem that is just coming to the spotlight in the past 20 years.

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For recreational purposes, absolutely not.  I even have reservations for medicinal purposes.  I believe the active ingredient is available in pill form.  Marijuana is used to offset theeffects of chemotherapy.  So let me get this straight.  A person gets cancer from smoking.  And what do the doctors prescribe?  Smoking.  Oooooooooooookay.  There has got to be cancer-causing chemicals in THC.  It should not be legalized for health reasons if for no other reason.  Regular cigarettes are bad enough.  Why add another problem to our social ills.

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Lately we are seeing more and more states legalizing marijuana for medicinal purposes. It has many benefits for patients who have a terminal illness such as cancer. When I was in college working towards my medical degree I had to do extensive research on the scientific evidence behind medicinal uses of marijuana and so I know for a fact that it has many positive uses and effects. It is also a very useful medication for treating the many different anxiety related illnesses such as panic disorders, social phobias, racing thoughts, and bipolar disorder. I'de have to say that to an extent it can be used by people who really do have medical problems but of course should be regulated the same way that narcotic analgesics/pain killers are. Unlike narcotic pain medications, marijuana is something that your body can not build up a dependancy on where you will have withdrawals that will make you violently ill to the point of being life threatening. Some of the worst are methadone, xanax, hydrocodone, morphine, oxycontin, and the list goes on and on. While studying pharmacology we learned about some of the addictive factors of different types of drugs. Marijuana does not cause a physical addiction like most all other drugs do except it can and does result in a very strong psychological addiction that can be just as bad as a physical addiction. So, the recreational use should be regulated to an extent and people should be educated on the long term effects of frequent/daily marijuana use. The most common side effect of course is it makes people lazy to the point where they don't even want to get out of bed to go to work and support their family, pay bills, do yard work like mow the lawn, etc. It's hard to say at this point in it's path to legalization whether or not and to what extent it should be allowed for recreational use and not strictly medical.

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I am not in favour of this.

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I can understand legalizing it for medicinal purposes, but recreational? NO

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I disagree with both... only b/c there are other things that can be used for pain , dilauid which is also HIGHLY addictive btw hate that drug...., PCA pump etc....however if they did legalize think of how many people would not be in jail right now based on a charge... regardless whether it's legal or not people will do it... So what happens if they legalize and you are in a restraunt and someone lights up a joint and your sitting there inhaling this and so is your kids b/c if i remember right from my younger much wilder days you can get a contact buzz...How will this be legal would it not impose on my constitutional rights? Some lab rat just wants to have his kicks made legal it sounds like... and our society will probably do it.


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I've heard the arguments for and against this issue.  One thing that comes to mind is how many times I have been able to use the smell of marijuana, burned or unburned, as pc to search a car in which hard drugs were discovered. 

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"I think we should legalize marijuana in this country.... I really do... So potheads have nothing to talk about ever again."  - Daniel Tosh


 


Anyone else have a hard time reading MediaRite's post? That was some weird, grammatically incorrect, winding logic if I've ever seen any. This is your brain on weed folks!!


Keep up the good fight for Jesus there MediaRite!


 

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 I believe that if legalized, marijuana would no longer be a "gateway" drug. It is currently a "gateway" drug only because to buy it, the purchaser has to go to a drug dealer to buy it, this same dealer can also be selling harder drugs such as cocaine, heroin, etc..


Might as well let the government make money by taxing it, regulating it like alcohol. Rather than having the"Al Capones" controlling, and making the money off it, much the same as during probition.


After all, who has heard of organizied crime controlling the beer, and liquor indrustries since then.


 


 

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 I believe that if legalized, marijuana would no longer be a "gateway" drug. It is currently a "gateway" drug only because to buy it, the purchaser has to go to a drug dealer to buy it, this same dealer can also be selling harder drugs such as cocaine, heroin, etc..


Might as well let the government make money by taxing it, regulating it like alcohol. Rather than having the"Al Capones" controlling, and making the money off it, much the same as during probition.


After all, who has heard of organizied crime controlling the beer, and liquor indrustries since then.


 


 


Aside from the mental/physical arguments, has this country done such a great job controlling alcohol? Teenage use at an all time high, over 40 thousand  alcohol related vehicle deaths, 100s of thousands of injuries and a drain on the health care system. Now you want to add another DRUG to the mix just because its a popular one? I don't think so.


 



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Aside from the mental/physical arguments, has this country done such a great job controlling alcohol? Teenage use at an all time high, over 40 thousand  alcohol related vehicle deaths, 100s of thousands of injuries and a drain on the health care system. Now you want to add another DRUG to the mix just because its a popular one? I don't think so.


 



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 I think Hollywood is playing a major part in this "Reefer Madness." You can't watch a movie today without weed being in it somewhere. It's like they're bombarding people with it's subculture to where everyone thinks smoking is normal and everyone wants to be normal so lets make it legal so we can all be normal and not have to worry about getting caught by the police, because this is normal and all those other justifications they use as to why what they're doing isn't really wrong, it's the system that's wrong.


The worst part about attending a liberal arts college was dealing with this mentality. My Corrections professor was a convicted felon, convicted of manufacturing marijuana on federal property. He was a Lawyer and felt like he was the king pin on a large ring when he told us it was just for personal use....right. My Social Deviance professor. told the class he'd rather see us smoking weed, than ciggerttes as it's not as bad for your health. (He also spent an entire class talking about right wing extermist but never talked about left wing extermist but that's not realvant here.) 


I'm lucky, by the time I started college and got thrown into this culture I'd already decided to major in Criminal Justice with the idea of going into Law Enforcement and felt like it'd be morally wrong to smoke weed when I want to be a cop, so I'm one of like 4 people I know of that have never touched the stuff, who went to the college. 

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 Which is worse? Alcohol or marijuana?  This thought just occurred to me..


 


Both were prohibbited during probition, they knew it was bad back then still is now


 


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 The argument that Alcohol is much more dangerous than Marijuana is a pointless argument to make. Alcohol use is much more widespread than Marijuana, regardless of what you read. Therefor, the numbers will always be scewed. Both are dangerous when improperly used or abused. Driving on either is equally dangerous. The difference is that we have made on legal, and one illegal. 


Why? Taxes. That's why. It is much more difficult to distil spirits in your basement than it is to grow some weed. We can control the flow of Alcohol much easier than we can control marijuana. 


Medicinal Marijuana is a joke, and everyone knows it. I voted to legalize recreational use, because we already have. The medicinal cards are handed out like candy to anyone who says they get headaches twice a week.


Were we to legalize Marijuana, regulate and tax it, we could save Billions a year in housing offenders, money spent on enforcement, and reap large gains in the amount of taxes gathered. For at least the first few years, we would have a boost in enfrocement of Illigal weed hitting the streets, but eventually it would die down as folks got turned onto the new system. 


Legalization is the future, there is no getting around it. 


Spice is a problem though, and lawmakers are running around in circles trying to keep up with the synthetic caniboid market. NARK kits are availible, but the spice manufacturers keep changing their formulas to stay ahead of the test kits. 


At least real marijuana is natural, Spice can contain anything and is very dangerous. Legalizing Marijuana will eliminate the spice market completly.


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