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Can a fugitive recovery agent seek and excute arrest warrents? As if I wanted to go to my local Police station or county sheriffs office to obtain a list of individuals who have active arrest warrents?

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You would have to check with your state and local pds for that answer. Here in Wisconsin we do not have fugitive recovery agents so the answer is definitely no. I actually think the likelihood that fugitive recovery agents would be allowed to execute warrant pickups is very slim.

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Why not contact the agencies and ask? Pretty simple.

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Not to my knowledge.  They normally work for bail bondsman and pick up people that have skipped out on their bond.  The bondsman pays them a fee which is based on the amount of bond that was on the person.   If the fugitive recovery agent were to go out and just serve warrants, no one is going to pay him for his time and efforts.  No profit in it.  Why risk your neck for nothing.

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You sound like you are playing out of your league. Let the real police take care of the warrants.

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I am NOT an LEO, but I think that the warrants (paperwork) that fugitive recovery agents have are given to them by the bail bondsmen.


Check with your state on that.


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Arrest warrants are issued by the Courts to a Law Enforcement Agency.  Only the original warrant can be served, not a copy.  The Law Enforcement agency will not give that out to anyone and holds it in file until the person is arrested and the warrant and person is returned to the courts.  Citizens do not have the power of arrest.   The courts have held that the Bondsman or person who has posted the bond on a person has the right to return that person to the courts so as to not lose the money or property posted.  The Bondsman can hire an agent to find the person and return them to the courts and these are Bond agents.  They are acting under the authority of the Bondsman and have no special powers of arrest other then that.

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You sound like you are playing out of your league. Let the real police take care of the warrants.



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Fidel, it sounds as if you're getting law enforcement mixed up with, "Dog the Bounty Hunter".  Wise has pretty much painted the picture for you.  Change the channel on the television.

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1. Post an introduction per the TOU.


2. "Warrent" is actually spelled "Warrant."


3. A "Fugitive Recovery Agent" is NOT a LEO. Therefore they can not affect an arrest, including warrants.

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Hey Fidel, just a couple of questions:


I just purchased a vehicle without WARRENTY. What should I do in case of repairs? 


Your last name won't happen to be Castro, would it? 


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Do you have a death wish????

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No, and should you feel the need to execute an arrest warrant without authorization, you face the risk of both being shot and charged with kidnapping.  No police agengy will release a list of individuals with active warrants, but sometimes the courts will publish a list of their warrants on their website or even release their warrant list to the local newpaper in attempt to get those individuals to turn themselves in.  


 

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yeah the answer for Texas is actually pretty simple...private citizens can citizens arrest for felony commited in their presence or breech of the peace...actively searching for someone with a felony warrant and arresting that individual does not fall into the legal powers of a private citizen.


So for my state, the answer is no...and it should be no...bail bondsmen in the state of Texas cannot be armed in pursuance of their duties anyway. IE...they would stand a real chance of getting killed...

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uncledennis1 says ...



Why not contact the agencies and ask? Pretty simple.


Yea what uncledennis said.  I would further suggest going in person and presenting your photo ID that way when they start getting complaints of a police impersonator they have all the info for the arrest.


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Warrants are typically addressed "To any Law Enforcement Officer ....' thus LEO can seve the warants, non-LEO's cant.

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uncledennis1 says ...



Why not contact the agencies and ask? Pretty simple.


Yea what uncledennis said.  I would further suggest going in person and presenting your photo ID that way when they start getting complaints of a police impersonator they have all the info for the arrest.




    ILMAO  mmmm, didn't think of that.

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Can a fugitive recovery agent seek and excute arrest warrents? As if I wanted to go to my local Police station or county sheriffs office to obtain a list of individuals who have active arrest warrents?



interesting first post.  if you are a FRA then you should already know the anser to that question.


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Well, the US Marshals also have a Fugitive Recovery Task Force, but I don't think they have to ask anybody for a list of local warrants. They pretty much got their hands full.

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OP hasn't been back yet.  Hopefully s/he learned their lesson, posts an intro, and forgets all about this thread.

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Let the LEO's do their job.

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I would like to speak on behalf of the FRA's that serve a private system that in turn has its own issues within it. In my 7years of private law experience as a FRA, I've come to realize most LEO get the terms Bail bondman/FRA mixed up and think that they are the same. The bondsman writes the bonds, and the FRA's if the guy don't show for court, retrieves the defendant and brings em/her before the judge. We don't need to serve the public bail system when we have our own fugitive warrants to worry about.


Now lets think for just a sec, LEO don't serve the private bonding system, so the bail bondsman either have to rely on themselves or the FRA's to bring those that jump bail back to justice. Now I've ran into a few asses in some precincts that were cops that may have made my job a lil hard cause they wouldn't see me as a friendly but guess what, without me going to those Depts, your local PD wouldn't have any knowledge of the fact that a fugitive wanted for murder, rap or assault is in they're local areas walking back and forward passing the Depts everyday.So to those that are in LEO, don't look down upon the FRA's in such away because those guys don't have no control over who the bondsman bail out of jail. But when they jump, guess who's getting the call.  


I guess my msg to all FRA's to come would be to just say stay in your lane, for we have our own area within the court system as private warrant agents serving the bonding agencies throughout the US. Some Police agencies may help but don't count on it. Just have your go team in place, make sure your warrants are always active before making any moves, check with your local police/sheriff agencies allowing them to know you and your team is operating in they're areas providing them the professional courtesy they need so there won't any mishaps. Protect yourselves always and stay safe.


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I would like to speak on behalf of the FRA's that serve a private system that in turn has its own issues within it. In my 7years of private law experience as a FRA, I've come to realize most LEO get the terms Bail bondman/FRA mixed up and think that they are the same. The bondsman writes the bonds, and the FRA's if the guy don't show for court, retrieves the defendant and brings em/her before the judge. We don't need to serve the public bail system when we have our own fugitive warrants to worry about.


Now lets think for just a sec, LEO don't serve the private bonding system, so the bail bondsman either have to rely on themselves or the FRA's to bring those that jump bail back to justice. Now I've ran into a few asses in some precincts that were cops that may have made my job a lil hard cause they wouldn't see me as a friendly but guess what, without me going to those Depts, your local PD wouldn't have any knowledge of the fact that a fugitive wanted for murder, rap or assault is in they're local areas walking back and forward passing the Depts everyday.So to those that are in LEO, don't look down upon the FRA's in such away because those guys don't have no control over who the bondsman bail out of jail. But when they jump, guess who's getting the call.  


I guess my msg to all FRA's to come would be to just say stay in your lane, for we have our own area within the court system as private warrant agents serving the bonding agencies throughout the US. Some Police agencies may help but don't count on it. Just have your go team in place, make sure your warrants are always active before making any moves, check with your local police/sheriff agencies allowing them to know you and your team is operating in they're areas providing them the professional courtesy they need so there won't any mishaps. Protect yourselves always and stay safe.


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Amusing. So........we as law enforcement don't know where the bail jumpers are? Seriously? Bondsmen do a great service by keeping scumbags out of jail to be sure. Otherwise our jails would certainly be overcrowded. Where bail bondsmen missteps is not sharing ALL the information they have on joe dirtbag and all his "people" so LE can go get him/her when he jumps, and jump they do. Having served my share of warrants for arrest, orders for arrest, and extraditable fugitive warrants I can tell you this, working with the public and garnering leads on a subject's whereabouts is an art. Being able to speak to a mother in a way which makes her give up the location of joe dirtbag is gratifying. Pulling the same out of a closet or from underneath a bed at gunpoint is thrilling. FRA's may have a leg up because their employer who sprung the scumbag may have finally gotten fed up with not getting paid in some form or fashion to send an FRA out. Whoop-de-doo. That person who your employer sprung in the first place is a danger to society who normally should have been in the jail until his/her day in court. These are people who folks like me have to hunt on a daily basis, not when the boss gets fed up. I like the term fugitive recovery agent though. It's almost the PC version of a "freedom repossessor". I am not denigrating the job you do, I am pointing out the fact your boss makes our jobs harder.


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ajsdaddyCCSO, I have the upmost respect for those officers out there that respect us for we do the same job but just under a different element far as we work under different payment conditions and guidelines. And I have to allow you to know that we as private agents have it harder than you guys in LE cause not only the bondsman may mess up with getting the proper info for us, we also don't have the kind of resources LE has or a large governing organization to depend on to back us up to hold a subject in case he/she are in distant lands, you can just make a phone call. We don't have those kind of resources, wish we did but we don't.


We rely on how fast the bondsman get us that case and pray the defendant didn't lie on the paperwork when it comes to addresses, the co-signers as well we have to rely on and even though we may have something to throw in they're face, telling them about the property/money they put up for the defendant will be lost, they still might give us a hard time. And not to mention the cops that may not respect our job, even though its an FRA's case, the officer might look at the FRA like a criminal himself and say (we can't help you, don't let the door hit you on your way out) lol.


Now I know at times LE may get the word about a bail jumper, but you guys may work at your leisure and the bondsman had to forfeit whatever he/she put up. LE may have the man power but do LE have the time to deal with making the bond cases 1st priority? Ofcourse the bondsman would love to have LEO's  lock the subject up, for that would only mean they wouldn't have to pay the FRA"s. I mean this is why FRA's are around, cause LE don't have the time to deal with those cases.

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It seems that you're frustrated by the sometimes slow response of LE in regards to bail jumpers.  "Now I know at times LE may get the word about a bail jumper, but you guys may work at your leisure..."


Do you realize LE agencies have a lot more to worry about than bail jumpers??  Life-threatening crime, property crime, "routine" traffic stops (there ain't no such thing) plus a million other things LEOs have to do.  They may simply have too much on their plate to go after every bail jumper they get word of - it's not for a lack of effort or not wanting to get wanted criminals off the streets.  Most agencies have binders full of warrants waiting to be served, but there aren't enough hours in the day or officers to serve them sometimes.


I've been in private Security for several years now, and I depend on a good working relationship with LE to do my job - there are times when I know they won't be able to respond for awhile due to the sheer volume of calls on their end.  I don't get on their case about it though, which is what you seem to be doing.


Now, what I'd recommend to you is to work on your grammar, man!  For the love of Mike, I had to read your post two or three times just to work through the bad grammar and run-on sentences.  That's bad JuJu for LEOs.  Cases can be made or broken on the accuracy of reports.  If you write reports in the same manner as posts, I doubt any prosecutor or cop would take you seriously.

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I have the same job you do as a private security officer and I too deal with LE not being able to respond to every situation. So I have to be on point everyday I'm out there on the job as an Armed Officer so my share of relying on LEO's to respond to issues I may not be able to handle. And might I add that I handle myself very well out on the streets of North Philly PA. 


And when it comes to my grammer, I don't write reports in the manner you've witnessed. But what I am getting a little upset with is you guys missing my point the whole time in regards to the different job functions of FRA's and LEO's in response to bail jumpers. I was simply emplying that FRA's do not need to seek public warrants for those files are for public LEO's and that we as FRA's have our own private warrant files by the bail bondsman to take care of.


Now let me clear something up you taking what I'm saying out of context. I work with LEO's continuously in NJ on various cases so you will never catch me bashing LE in such away. All I'm trying to do is change the misconception of the FRA's mistakingly and supposedly making an attempt to take the jobs of the LEO's by servig a private system that is designed for them to serve.

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Warrants are typically addressed "To any Law Enforcement Officer ....' thus LEO can seve the warants, non-LEO's cant.



If a judge issues a bail jumpers warrant LE agencies won't get that warrant the bondsman would and in turn issue the case to the FRA's. Now if the warrant was issued on other charges such as parole violations, child support warrants, probation violations etc. Then LE would get those warrants but unless the bondsman or the FRA's bring that case to LE attention they won't know anything about it. Now if LEO's wanted to look up the info of a bail jumper on they're own for whatever reason to check if that person has a warrant then they will be able to find that subject in an NCIC system if the courts have put the info in, and they can then give thought into whether they're going to get involved in that particular case.


But the case do not go directly to a LE Agency. The bondsman that bail that person out would get a letter from the courts allowing the bail bondsman to know the guy didn't show up, and then would give the orders to the bondsman to bring the defendant back with a significant amount of time. Then the bondsman with very little to no time to do it on they're own would call for the FRA's to assist in the apprehension of the subject.


Not to disrespect LE in any way at all when it comes down to whether they have time or not to answer the call from the bondsman about a bail jumper. Its just that they don't have the time with all the others issues they're faced with everyday so we as FRA's would act as partners serving the bondsman system so that LE wouldn't be burdened with the private bonding system affairs.

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Can a fugitive recovery agent seek and excute arrest warrents? As if I wanted to go to my local Police station or county sheriffs office to obtain a list of individuals who have active arrest warrents?



The only warrants an FRA would be able to serve is that of the bondsman and until further notice from any of the 50 states in the US that's it. Nothing more than that.